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@airomerix
Million $ question

Do your friends & brothers in PAF see IAF coming soon?

Sincerely

they need to re-train their staff, upgrade hardware, re-formulate response strategy, not happening any time soon.

PAF only shot down 2 jets and they went full retard and deployed missiles. If 9 jets were shot down they would have gone full berserker and launched nuclear missiles.

Until the point of shooting 2 jets, Imran Khan and Modi believed superior IAF will sweep across the skies.
By the time two Indian jets were down, non of the India pilots were willing to fly any more.
Imran Khan helped Modi save his face, and that of his Air-force.
It's very childish logic to say that 2 down jets forced to deploy missiles and 3 would forced them to load missile 4 would let them to initiate sequence... and so forth.
During Kargil, Indians didn't had bags enough to pack their dead bodies, no propaganda of Indian preparing for nuke were released from any quarters.
 
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That little cockroach JF17 destroying / decimating the Mahabali—-the screams would have been heard the world over.
Would have been a good marketing for jF-17 as well.
We lost the chance to earn most needed funds to launch our aeronautical industry.
 
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@airomerix
Million $ question

Do your friends & brothers in PAF see IAF coming soon?

Sincerely

They are trying. They need a PAF's jet down in their territory (and it is easy if act foolish)

Just last 23rd march, IAF hacked into our radio network of fly past aircraft and tried to cause confusion by giving instructions to the formation.

The instruction given was to go into a holding pattern and delay the mission. PAF quickly realized and the lead of the flypasts, Shahbaz 1 (F-16D) gave counter instruction and simultaneously we jumped the hacked frequency.

This was an attempt to delay the flypast and cause embarrassment to our 23rd march parade. They did all that by staying inside their own territory.

This is the kind of strategic depth we have. And fools here want to wage a full scale war with Pakistan trying to get out of gray lists and IMF loans.
 
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@airomerix
Million $ question

Do your friends & brothers in PAF see IAF coming soon?

Sincerely
Dear, in other threads you have given answers to this question multiple times. do you think Indians forget it and move? Never...they are born cunning ...they would do anything ...
 
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they need to re-train their staff, upgrade hardware, re-formulate response strategy, not happening any time soon.



Until the point of shooting 2 jets, Imran Khan and Modi believed superior IAF will sweep across in skies.
By the time two Indian jets were down, non of the India pilots were willing to fly any more.
Imran Khan helped Modi save his face, and that of his Air-force.
It's very childish logic to say that 2 down jets forced to deploy missiles and 3 would forced them to load missile 4 would let them to initiate sequence... and so forth.
During Kargil, Indians didn't had bags enough to pack their dead bodies, no propaganda of Indian preparing for nuke were released from any quarters.

Kargil again was a failure of Paf. Never ready. Excuse of sanctions given.

You gonna stay young?

Hi

He got his behind chewed a few days ago possibly on a third rate post and his title also got challenged.

that is why he is showing his displeasure.
 
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Seems like a shade of Grey could prove to be fatal to our very existence as a state so are we going to fight India or make friends with her? Direction please?
 
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They are trying. They need a PAF's jet down in their territory (and it is easy if act foolish)

Just last 23rd march, IAF hacked into our radio network of fly past aircraft and tried to cause confusion by giving instructions to the formation.

The instruction given was to go into a holding pattern and delay the mission. PAF quickly realized and the lead of the flypasts, Shahbaz 1 (F-16D) gave counter instruction and simultaneously we jumped the hacked frequency.

This was an attempt to delay the flypast and cause embarrassment to our 23rd march parade. They did all that by staying inside their own territory.

This is the kind of strategic depth we have. And fools here want to wage a full scale war with Pakistan trying to get out of gray lists and IMF loans.
I believe we were on open frequency during the fly past, and the other side did try this. We do similar spoofing at their end too. It's a tit for tat. But absolutely agree with your argument, bang on point. Remember when Pakistani pilots were singing Dil Dil Pakistan on the other side's channels just post strikes. =)
 
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Hi,

The primo rule of war for thousands of years---kill the enemy---destroy his assets---but never insult a larger enemy than you or even a smaller enemy than you---.

Let your weapons do the destruction---the enemy will take it as part of existence---but words of humiliation and degradation---they will want to wipe you off the face of the earth even at the cost of their own existence---.

PAF did the same thing with its F-104 from 1960 to 1980s.
IAF could only go as far as Islamabad with its Mig-25 which is only 80 KM from Indian border where as PAF F-104 went as far away as Agra which is 800km away from border.

Hi,

India did not have as many assets at that time to intercept the F104---.

A fighter pilots had also proposed a ground strike at agra air base---a straffing run with extra fuel tanks---but the nincompoop base commander denied the request---.

When Nur Khan heard about it---he stated that he would have authorized it---.

I believe a poster on my behalf got a little carried away---about taking over IOK---.

That cannot happen until and unless there is a large scale kashmiri uprising---.

My target was to establish the writ over the skies by the pakistani air force---.
 
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They are trying. They need a PAF's jet down in their territory (and it is easy if act foolish)

Just last 23rd march, IAF hacked into our radio network of fly past aircraft and tried to cause confusion by giving instructions to the formation.

The instruction given was to go into a holding pattern and delay the mission. PAF quickly realized and the lead of the flypasts, Shahbaz 1 (F-16D) gave counter instruction and simultaneously we jumped the hacked frequency.

This was an attempt to delay the flypast and cause embarrassment to our 23rd march parade. They did all that by staying inside their own territory.

This is the kind of strategic depth we have. And fools here want to wage a full scale war with Pakistan trying to get out of gray lists and IMF loans.
The radio jump ins are frequent. Happened a lot in the past. One of the senior staff PAF members in a rear seat and the oldest Pakistani fighter pilot in the front seat had numerous convos with Srinagar station. Some were hilarious.
 
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The issue isn't whether we shot down 2 aircraft or nine. The issue is whether our strategic objectives were obtained or not. A well organized mind can clearly rationalize how strategic objectives could have been obtained either way. But the reality is that a weak leadership failed to take advantage of a clear aerial victory to its fullest extent. On the contrary, it criminally helped the enemy to obtain its strategic objectives.

For all the fun we poke at Modi, the reality remains that he tested the abilities of his airforce, army, and navy in actual combat, and we happily presented ourselves as practice dummies. Modi got away with his test at our expense without being penalized in any manner other than the loss of two aircraft. Let us remember the fact that Modi himself is no expert in armed conflict. Before 27 Feb 2019, he only had the word of his generals and air marshals. Today he has their actual performance. The curtains of reserve and shame have been torn down between Modi and his generals. This means they can now have a frank and objective conversation about their war preparations. This doesn't bode well for Pakistan.

So now we have a determined enemy that knows the full extent of our capabilities. This enemy has a number of options. He doesn't have to match our own aerial superiority. The enemy has subterfuge and subversion on his side. When our Prime Ministers are imported from London, and Army Chiefs have friendships with foreign elements, the enemy is very well positioned to install a weak leadership of its own choosing. The enemy knows the efficacy of our systems so will try to make inroads into our suppliers. The enemy has an army of CEOs in the top technological firms of the world, and will now be looking to expand that outreach to our Western suppliers. We should consider our Western equipment as being compromised.

We need to rid ourselves of the traitors in our leadership. That is our challenge.
 
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Hi,

The primo rule of war for thousands of years---kill the enemy---destroy his assets---but never insult a larger enemy than you or even a smaller enemy than you---.

Let your weapons do the destruction---the enemy will take it as part of existence---but words of humiliation and degradation---they will want to wipe you off the face of the earth even at the cost of their own existence---.



Hi,

India did not have as many assets at that time to intercept the F104---.

A fighter pilots had also proposed a ground strike at agra air base---a straffing run with extra fuel tanks---but the nincompoop base commander denied the request---.

When Nur Khan heard about it---he stated that he would have authorized it---.

I believe a poster on my behalf got a little carried away---about taking over IOK---.

That cannot happen until and unless there is a large scale kashmiri uprising---.

My target was to establish the writ over the skies by the pakistani air force---.

Hi,
Without a general an army is a headless chicken. When they say no to a plan their is a reason behind it.
As for F-104 pilot proposal, Maybe extra fuel tanks reduces F-104 performance which then could be vulnerable to AD so they could not risk a chance to lose even one F-104 specially they only had 12!
 
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Hi,
Without a general an army is a headless chicken. When they say no to a plan their is a reason behind it.
As for F-104 pilot proposal, Maybe extra fuel tanks reduces F-104 performance which then could be vulnerable to AD so they could not risk a chance to lose even one F-104 specially they only had 12!

Hi,
You so full of it---.
 
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Hi,
Without a general an army is a headless chicken. When they say no to a plan their is a reason behind it.
As for F-104 pilot proposal, Maybe extra fuel tanks reduces F-104 performance which then could be vulnerable to AD so they could not risk a chance to lose even one F-104 specially they only had 12
!

Hi,

Stop talking silly---. You pakistani kids have made it a habbit of yours---. Don't BS around just out of habit that you have to write an answer back

Read up on the story of that officer---before you start yapping your mouth off---.

If you can't find it---ask Billal Khan 777---he will tell you about it---.

You are not an intelligent person---even though you try to be very "Chalak".
 
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