PAF locked on 9 shoot only two...PAF official....0n 27 Feb....

[Nasr]

Ironically; PDF'ers clamoring for war are conveniently sitting in western states, leaving us poor folks to deal with the fallout. Once war starts, these folks will be like kaha tha na escalate karo!

There is no shortage of idiots in this world. There are some that can considered "useful" idiots, and there are plain dumb buffoons. Those who clamor for war, are the latter, and infest both countries. The need for sanity not only in the ranks of leadership, but also the people of Pakistan is paramount. We cannot afford to have mindless buffoons running around unchecked.

 

[TheTallGuy]

You don't know how much Hindu army and people got venom in their veins they are ready to bombard us with nuclear missiles.

My Spy friend..time is near..and you know it.

There is no shortage of idiots in this world. There are some that can considered "useful" idiots, and there are plain dumb buffoons. Those who clamor for war, are the latter, and infest both countries. The need for sanity not only in the ranks of leadership, but also the people of Pakistan is paramount. We cannot afford to have mindless buffoons running around unchecked.

Sir,
Its the perception for example if i ask a question "Is India an Existential Threat to Pakistan?" if it is "YES" then response requires to be hard hitting and policies are made to dealt with...if the response is NO! then "Co-existence - Eco-Friendly comes to the table" but Mind you there is NO MIDDLE SPACE...those who think there is.. are the actual "Useful idiots or mindless buffoons"

 

[naahmad28]

Totally agree. Why the hell PAF would not shoot all these indian jets is beyond any logic. In fact, this attitude of PAF top brass is extremely worrying as it literally displays a "Defeatist" mindset. And that is why even today, despite all the humiliation, the IAF and the indian Army is still putting propaganda out there. Now just imagine, if PAF would have shot 9-Fighter jets - the whole indian military would have been shell shocked, and it would have literally taken them years to recover from such a shock. I am very, very disappointed - PAF should never have disclosed this as this statement will work against them.

why not? here is the answer. To engage and shoot, following 3 checks to be done:
1) Aircraft is intruding into Pakistan airspace
2) Locked on to our jet
3) after shooting the intruder, debry should fall within Pakistani border.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

As long as secular elitists control the PAF, this is what it will always come down to. They love America more than Americans and in doing so have lost their own self-respect and self-esteem. Such men can never be true warriors for Pakistan. Just more little Ayub Khans running around boasting US technology that's all.

A nation is built by people who love their own selves, who have an ideology and who fight for it.

Sorry, someone has to say it, @MastanKhan can't be the only one seeing the ball here.

Hit the nail on the head bro

 

[ARMalik]

There is no shortage of idiots in this world. There are some that can considered "useful" idiots, and there are plain dumb buffoons. Those who clamor for war, are the latter, and infest both countries. The need for sanity not only in the ranks of leadership, but also the people of Pakistan is paramount. We cannot afford to have mindless buffoons running around unchecked.

Idiots and buffoons -- the quality of your language shows your fantastic manners. What a man - Keep it up.

 

[TheTallGuy]

why not? here is the answer. To engage and shoot, following 3 checks to be done:
1) Aircraft is intruding into Pakistan airspace
2) Locked on to our jet
3) after shooting the intruder, debry should fall within Pakistani border.

that is where the problem lies...since we treated the 26th as peace time (ROE) and would it be right to treat 27th as peace time as well...with Same ROE?

PAF & IAF official narrative are so far apart and so murky that it has become comical...

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

I heard they had their finger on the nuke button. If PAF were to lose 1-2 jets, they were going to launch them.

U mean we had launched nukes had our 1-2 jets downed by India?

 

[NA71]

You don't know how much Hindu army and people got venom in their veins they are ready to bombard us with nuclear missiles.

Absolutely right.....They have gone fanatic Zombies ...

 

[Talon]

Hi,

Cowardice has its own place---.

Here the enemy was running scared of PAF and PAF was running scared of the what if factor---.

See cowards are not made---. They inherit their cowardice and it stays with them for generations---.

Like the Ayub Khan factor---china lay bare Kashmir for pakistan to take---and even though he was a general---his eternal cowardice deep down inside of him rose up to the top at the critical moment---.

If you are so worried about the image---would you ever be able to push the nuc button if it came to that---?

Seems like another thread ban is coming---.

Hi,

Hamare Missile Hamari Merzi..

Thanks

 

[airomerix]

Hi,

Hamare Missile Hamari Merzi..

Thanks

Probably the best response to his below average analysis.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Hamare Missile Hamari Merzi..

 

[SIPRA]

Hamare Missile Hamari Merzi..

This is what Marvi Sarmad says.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Hi,

Cowardice has its own place---.

yah you keep repeating that
well maybe first we need to look at the mirror to know our actual awkaat before acting like a super power.

Here the enemy was running scared of PAF and PAF was running scared of the what if factor---.

Sir, sometimes you sound like a fanboy who wants two nuclear powers fight each other out while you watch the show on your comfortable couch 1000s of miles away.

See cowards are not made---. They inherit their cowardice and it stays with them for generations---.

If Pakistan was coward then they would not have retaliated in the first place. we are sorry if PAF was not able to fulfill your fantasies.

Like the Ayub Khan factor---china lay bare Kashmir for pakistan to take---and even though he was a general---his eternal cowardice deep down inside of him rose up to the top at the critical moment---.

Didn't Ayub also underestimate India that if Pakistan supports kashmiri freedom fighters openly, India would not retaliate but instead they attacked! Didn't Musharraf also underestimate international pressure during Kargil war but instead Uncle Sam forced Pakistan to retreat!
Do you get the point that India is in MUCH MUCH stronger position today then Pakistan and one stupid move from Pakistan could result in one of the largest humanitarian crisis of modern century.

If you are so worried about the image---would you ever be able to push the nuc button if it came to that---?

Seems like another thread ban is coming---.

The war wont end with one just one nuke!

 

[Mumm-Ra]

You said in line that I highlighted killing military personnel was not the aim and then you say that aircrafts that were locked on should have been shot at. Their pilots would have landed inside IOK, and maybe 1 or 2 or more would have been killed due to any occurrence of aircraft crash. So the first thing to decide is - was killing military personnel the aim or not ?

Now as you say, IAF crossed IB, or say LOC and then bombed KPK. Then PAF also crossed IB or LOC and bombed IOK, this is fair game, tit for tat response. Abhinandan in his Mig-21 crossed over and was shot down.

Now if PAF had to go in for the kill, lets say, an aim to down IAF aircraft even if they fall inside IOK, then why in the first place lock on ground targets, veer bombs left or right towards vegetation, seconds before impact ?
Why not just unleash 5 x squadron worth aicrafts loaded with bombs and bomb the hell out of Military targets and airfield in IOK and start a war?

This means there was a plan in place.
I mean whats the plan - start a war or give response ?

If any target that is locked has to be taken out then India must have locked on to military targets through SSM (CMs) and Pakistan would have done the same, but locking means that fire order has to be given at all costs ?

Next, it seems that IAF aircrafts that were locked on had probably disengaged from a fight, but the result would have been different had they engaged PAF aircraft in air to air combat, the SU-30 that was caught in the middle, was shot down.

Editing mistake. What i meant was, since there had been no causalities on our side, the bombs were deliberately swerved away from buildings to green patch. However, had there been some casualties during India's raid then it might have been a different ball game.

The bold part needs more clarity. Any action by one side would not lead to war in the present situation. The Kargil conflict, India's the shooting down of our naval aircraft, 2001-02 standoff, Mumbai attacks aftermath, all these events point that there might not be a war between our two countries as the destructive power of both countries means its MAD. Hence, India was looking for a way to use its military in some capacity without resorting to all out war. They are banking on sort conflicts to take aggressive actions against Pakistan. Even they realize that international pressure would force both countries to seize hostilities. Hence, in my view any shooting down of IAF planes by PAF on that day would not have escalated to war.

And the strike, though spectacular in its own respect, did not had the intended consequence. India was ready for a missile attack. We closed our airspace and were expecting another incursion. LOC was hotter than usual. It was our threat that we would strike thrice the number of targets if India initiated any missile attack that was ultimately responsible for lowering of tension.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Hmm..PAF claims it locked on 9 Indian aircrafts, however they are not even able to present any evidence whatsoever that even Su 30 was shot down, despite repeated claims, that more evidence is on its way?

what evidence has India provided except for twitter rumors and some villagers mistaking ejection seat parachute for "dosra banda"?
PS: MS paint job does not count