What's new

PAF defends charges but a probe is needed

sonicboom

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Mar 13, 2009
Messages
704
Reaction score
2
Thursday, June 11, 2009

By Ansar Abbasi

ISLAMABAD: Defence deals of the Pakistan Air Force in recent years, worth billions of US dollars, need a public scrutiny amid growing reports of kickbacks, procedural violations and compromise on technology.

While a former air chief, Saadat Kaleem, has already accused General Pervez Musharraf of ruining the PAFís $1.2 billion Saab Surveillance System deal by adding the Chinese technology with the Swedish for possible kickbacks, producing a mismatch, some insiders insist that the situation is worse than what the former air chief has hinted at.

A credible source said that the PAFís Air Board had been bypassed in quite a few defence deals during the recent years owing to pressures both from within and outside the force. The PAF spokesman, however, insists that the contracting of various items is the prime responsibility of the concerned branch of the Air Headquarters and is not required to be discussed and approved by the Air Board.

Before the last major PAF deal worth $1 billion for the first consignment of JF-17 aircraft, an influential Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) pilot having close association with a key ruler in Islamabad was seen visiting the top offices at the Air Headquarters in Islamabad. Following these visits towards the end of January 2009, the $1 billion deal on JF-17 moved on a fast track. The same PIA employee interestingly travelled to China, along with President Asif Ali Zardari, in February this year to obtain a one billion dollar loan.

PAF spokesman Group Captain Tariq Mehmood, however, did not respond to the question about the strange visits of strangers to the Air Headquarters before the loan contract was signed. Mehmood said that the JF-17 serial production contract was being negotiated since December 2006 and was almost finalised in June 2008 but could not be concluded due to non-release of funds by the government.

This delay, he said, was adversely affecting the operational capability of the PAF and the work at the PAC Kamra. ìSince then, efforts are being made for the arrangement of funds,î the PAF spokesman said in a note that he gave to this correspondent in response to a number of queries e-mailed to him. For quite some time, the spokesman was hesitant to respond to The News queries but later came up with his response on selected questions, still requesting to delay the story by a few weeks.

A source disclosed that the March deal of $1 billion was not presented before the JF-17 projectís Board of Directors for approval, but the PAF spokesman said: ìThe JF-17 Board of Directors was regularly updated on the status of the JF-17 Serial Production (SP) contract.î

He said that in January 2009, a presentation was given to the president, the prime minister and other cabinet members following which the federal government directed the Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Finance to take up the matter with the Chinese authorities for concessional credit. ìSubsequently, with the efforts of Pakistanís ambassador to China and the PAF, the seller (CATIC) offered a sellerís credit facility for the SP Contract.î

The spokesman said that on the instructions of the prime minister, the offer was subsequently negotiated by a joint team of the PAF, JF-17 project representative, the Ministry of Finance and the Pakistan Embassy.

He said that the case was finally put up for the governmentís approval, which was later approved. An agreement was then signed for a credit of about $1 billion to be payable over seven years at a cost of around $100 million (approximately at the rate of 1.4 per cent per year).

The PAF spokesman did not clearly respond if the JF-17 BoD and the PAFís Air Board approved the proposal too. He dispelled the impression that the loan had been obtained at an extraordinary mark-up. Sources said the prevalent rate in the world was less than one per cent.

ìThis is the most economical credit facility ever negotiated,î said the spokesman, adding after the formal approval of the government, the contract was signed by the JF-17 PMO and the PAC Kamra on March 7. ìAll principal staff officers at the Air Headquarters and the Chinese ambassador witnessed the signing ceremony.î

Tariq Mahmood said that the JF-17 contract was signed on highly favourable terms that included transfer of technology for airframe manufacturing immediately and avionics package next year. The contract, he said, heralds the realisation and commitment of both Pakistan and China to turn their cherished dream of co-producing a modern fighter into a reality and beginning of a new era of aviation industry in Pakistan.

According to a source, besides the latest deal, the PAF Air Board was also ignored in a few other deals worth $800 million struck with Brazil, South Africa, Russia and Italy in the last few years for purchase of different technologies for the PAF.

Tariq Mehmood, however, explained every case was not supposed to go to the Air Board for approval. He said the vice chief of the air staff, who manages the PAF budget, allocates funds for all such contracts and hence is always in the loop for such authorisations by the Air Headquarters. He said once the proposal was approved by the Air Headquarters, the ministries of defence and finance do further scrutiny, hold negotiations and finalise contracts. ìThe process is totally transparent and above board. The Air Board is periodically apprised of all these issues,î he claimed. The sources said in the coming few years, defence deals worth $8-10 billion were expected for which the government should evolve a mechanism so that right purchases were made for the countryís air force without any chance of kickbacks.

PAF defends charges but a probe is needed
 
I can't believe some of the crap these politations are causing. Why the hell do you need PIA guys going to China to get a lone. I dont know what to think next
 
My god this man spews such crap!

Now that his Quaid is supporting the PPP governments war against the extremists, this former Taliban sympathizer is left with nothing else to do except try and dig up dirt on the Military.

What is the 'prevalent interest rate on loans for military deals', if 1.4% for a billion dollar loan in a proposal including ToT is too high?

There is nothing in this article that shows any wrong - unless one can show that interest rates significantly lower than 1.4% are 'prevalent' on military deals of this sort.

And even if they were prevalent, what does Abbasi expect the PAF to do?

Say no thanks to the Chinese and screw the JF-17 project, and go back to the Americans?

Absolutely bonkers this chap - he needs to retire.
 
He needs to be taken care of via ISI :P.He might cause troubles for our defence deals.This bastard has nothing else to do except malign Army Reputation.
 
He needs to be taken care of via ISI :P.He might cause troubles for our defence deals.This bastard has nothing else to do except malign Army Reputation.
I thought the report was about PAF procurements.
 
I have been checking SCoP 's website but there is no info on filing a writ or petition ... I am seriuosly considering filing a law suit against this retard ... half of the stuff is made up and quoted by 'relaible sources' ... to hell with this nonsense ... I want to see those sources ...

any guideance on opening a writ or law suit?
 
You can file a lawsuit in any court. Just hire a good lawyer and then file the law suit. If you wish to go directly to the supreme court here is the contact details:

Contact Information
Supreme Court of Pakistan
Constitution Avenue, Islamabad

Telephone: 051-9220581-9220600
Fax: 051-9213452

Email: mail@supremecourt.gov.pk
 
On the contrary, although personally I am not fond of either the JANG GROUP or the gentleman who wrote this article, however there is indeed credence to what he has written about PAF deals. First it was reported in the Daily Express quoting the retired VCAS Shahid Latif, then ex-CAS Kaleem Saadat spoke out about the issue. Therefore, such discussion in the media is healthy as it is a part of the independent process of checks and balances in such matters. I am a strong believer in the saying that wherever their is smoke there is fire!
 
The military is never clean. There are always kick backs/deals/money to be made.
But it has always been hush hush...no one talks about it.
On this occasion i am happy that there is a stir and it will maybe lead to something or die after a couple of articles in the paper.
Overall we should accept that like many other departments of Govt Of Pakistan which one has to bribe ...military is no different.
 
Last edited:
I agree 100% that media should be free and such reports should become public knowledge.

However, issue here is timing. Pakistanis were divided for a long time on the issue of action against the Talibans. After alot of sacrifices of PA and the people of NWFP, this nation is finally standing behind its armed forces and looking like a nation, this is not the right time to bring this issue to public.

This guy should contact the defence minister, PM and even president about these issues and use public exposure as the last resort.

This is more of an undirect support for the Taliban and NS.
 
He needs to be taken care of via ISI .He might cause troubles for our defence deals.This bastard has nothing else to do except malign Army Reputation.
He should be hanged to death, cut into pieces and those pieces should be burnt. Ash must be drained into sewage drain. How could in this damn world accuse our pious “warriors” of corruption. All from Ayub Khan, Zia-i-Haq and Mushraff were dead honest. After retirement they relied on their pensions and people saw them even using them public transport. Their families are struggling very hard. All those we talk about so-called corruption in forces are Taliban :rofl:
 
The money that the Pakistan Air Force uses to purchase its capabilities belongs to the people of Pakistan, who the government is directly answerable to. There is absolutely nothing wrong with probing deals made by the PAF or any other service of the government.

If it is found that favouritism was shown, and that the capabilities were compromised without much thought given to the long term affects, then the responsible should be punished. The country and its people come first. Without them, there is no Air Force. Ask any military man, he'll tell you that too.
 
Raising questions over corruption is fine, but in this particular piece, the majro allegations revolve around cutting the SAAB deal from 6 to 5, and using the savings to go for the Chinese systems.

IMO this is less about corruption than it is about a strategic decision to diversify and possibly acquire technology. Now that 'strategic decision' should be open to debate as well, but I feel that Abbassi has tried to lump it in with corruption to bolster his case, instead of treating it separately as it should have been.
 
Raising questions over corruption is fine, but in this particular piece, the majro allegations revolve around cutting the SAAB deal from 6 to 5, and using the savings to go for the Chinese systems.

IMO this is less about corruption than it is about a strategic decision to diversify and possibly acquire technology.
I too share your point of view. I believe the Chinese systems offered us better long-term benefits. In an inquiry, this will have to be proved, therefore, I am all for a free, fair and transparent public inquiry. These are the benefits of democracy, and these are the benefits of a free judiciary. Why sow when you don't wish to reap?

Also, if Mr. Abbassi is trying to roll it all up into one massive corruption charge (which I agree is wrong), well, the PAF has the full right to defend itself and the responsibility to answer to the public. In the long run, any probe into this matter will be an important factor that our military leaders will consider when making key decisions. I don't see how this can hurt, in the long-term. It will only help.
 

Latest posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom