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Ouch! It's a Baloch punch: US declines to echo Delhi

I actually want India to highlight Baloch issue. it makes me laugh and wonder who is the dickhead advising him that highlighting Balochistan will bring kashmir in the back burner

we can arrange rallies and take a piss at him by declaring Modi joke day and slapping his effigy with shoes
it has already happened in Peshin. my goodness this is height of desperation or retardation at the part of Indian planners.. our home minister is a Kalbpar Bughti..

he will make a new one into any Indian joker who tries to troll us over Balochistan. the kind of desperation and low life attacks conducted on Balochistan specially after the announcement of CPEC have shown the face of India and they went as far as sending a senior spymaster inside Balochsitan.

the moment these dickheads bring up Balochistan.. we must bring out that monkey we captured and then highlight the indian sponsored terrorism against people of Balochistan





Americans cant be trusted for their words.. their senators tout the greater Baluchistan concept well before Indians started funding them. it is in their new world order designs.

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their mentality is suck up to the new god. this is why they made statues of Trump hoping he will become president just because he is obnoxious in his hatred towards Muslims

it was brought to my attention they want to give Bramdagh Bugti an indian visa....the one and only thing stopping the indians from pouncing on the decision would be the fact that NADRA has the means to issue scores of ID cards to KHALISTANI Sikh East Punjabis who are still incensed about 1984

let the indians try - we will provide them with free cremation in the symbolic and literal sense. Let these hijras bark about Balochistan while 22+ seperatist movements thrive in india

Of Course we are not a superpower .But we have power ,power enough to maintain our own policies and decisions .And noone in this world dares to question us.

well apparently the US State Dept. did hardly 24 hours ago when they ridiculed Modi's newfound love for "oppressed Balochistan" (a Province I myself have explored and know like the back of my hand)
 
On Balochistan, the state department's spokesperson, John Kirby, said the US "respects the unity and territorial integrity of Pakistan and we do not support independence for Balochistan".

If that's not enough to convince Modians, then Hindi language would have to suffice given English is not their first language, hence their confused state in delirious mind. I hope you understand my points, Mr Grandeur of Delusional aka Modians. :D

So typical that Pakistanis like to jump to conclusions that are not even there and try to connect invisible dots that lead nowhere. Where in Modi's Independence Day speech did he say he wanted independence for Balochistan? When did India say it was seeking US approval for doing anything in Balochistan?
 
Their cooperation with India is limited to only overlapping interests, like signing lemons - having India hand over its sovereignty to fight China. Soon they''ll be signing the next lemon.
You ought to appreciate US's dilemma. They have invested heavily in Pakistan and they still have stakes in Afghanistan. They can't alienate Pakistan beyond a point. Already Pakistan is struggling to steady its western border and they can't add the Baloch headache to it. Modi raising the Baloch issue is only to counter Pakistan's rhetoric on Kashmir. And it should be seen as such.
 
What an embarrassment for the Modi sarkar!

Why is it so? Whatever policy India follows is not necessary to be aligned with rest of the world....Like you treat Taliban as your asset, West term it as terrorist people...Does that mean you will also change your policy?
 
does US support PAK on kashmir?:enjoy:
does it matter?:p::p::p:

Buss bhi, another week of sleepless nights for Modi & Gang. So basically, US has officially dismissed India's claims of involvement of Hafiz Saeed in Bombay attack.

Oh my Oh my.
 
I highly doubt that, for the time being we can only bet on China and Turkey---

Ok 1 of them will & Turkey is important Muslim country. Nai?
chaudhry Gaaal kad eno :lol:

@The Sandman

Main galiyan Nahi dety. Not even that 4 letters word. Even though that word is common to say everywhere even for girls.
But Kabhi Kabhi it gets really hard to keep it halal. Reputation you know. :D Aise main I rather use any Punjabi word.
Galiyan Punjabi main he achy Lagty. :lol:
 
it was brought to my attention they want to give Bramdagh Bugti an indian visa....the one and only thing stopping the indians from pouncing on the decision would be the fact that NADRA has the means to issue scores of ID cards to KHALISTANI Sikh East Punjabis who are still incensed about 1984

let the indians try - we will provide them with free cremation in the symbolic and literal sense. Let these hijras bark about Balochistan while 22+ seperatist movements thrive in india



well apparently the US State Dept. did hardly 24 hours ago when they ridiculed Modi's newfound love for "oppressed Balochistan" (a Province I myself have explored and know like the back of my hand)

Did I already told you?
Noone in here considers US state dept as a benchmark for truth.
We have our own policies and that wont change even if the others disagree with that
 
Did I already told you?
Noone in here considers US state dept as a benchmark for truth.
We have our own policies and that wont change even if the others disagree with that

No one? A plethora of posts by your countrymen suggests otherwise......I guess this new trend started for you at least when the very same "State Department" admitted it has no evidence against Hafiz Saeed and therefore there's no "bounty" on his head unlike what your media still claims
 
No one? A plethora of posts by your countrymen suggests otherwise......I guess this new trend started for you at least when the very same "State Department" admitted it has no evidence against Hafiz Saeed and therefore there's no "bounty" on his head unlike what your media still claims

Well they have their own opinion.
We have our own opinion.
Noone from GoI replied to the US statement.
That is what I am talking about.
US hasvits own interests ,we have our own
 
.Like you treat Taliban as your asset, West term it as terrorist people...Does that mean you will also change your policy?

You really need a break. Take some time and go out there like an evening walk, holidays etc because continuous work is weakening your health and damaging senses. You in this post, totally disagreed with your own Ajit Doval (I am quoting him here only to let you understand it more easily though he is way more than involved in it against Pakistan) that he stated as these mercenaries are available to hire for the one whoever paid them heavily and not to forget here all that rich India with top GDP and trillions $$ economy versus us Pakistan. The irony is it is so easy to ignore the evidence, proof or own words but come up with something only to for own satisfaction. Stop uttering such baseless accusations based upon ill fed of Media etc or either come-up with all the names that have been supporting many like these even till today that include India as well.
 
This modi regime is turning out to be bigger blessing for Sino-Pak by the day.

It is upto the enemy to make mistake and it is upto us to utilise enemy's mistakes. By not capitalising on these mistakes a great opportunity will be lost.

That none in Pak Baloch lands buys this indian empire folly is a great opportunity for Pak state to capitalise upon both nationally and internationally.

Only an astute political class and skilled diplomacy can build upon these gifts from this modi regime.

Can Pak rise to the challenge and craft a longterm strategic roadmap to leverage strategic benefits from indian overreach?

Kashmir is so close to joining Pak, if only there is deftness and skill excercise by Pak gov and political classes.

Do not let this great opportunity go to waste now!
 
So typical that Pakistanis like to jump to conclusions that are not even there and try to connect invisible dots that lead nowhere. Where in Modi's Independence Day speech did he say he wanted independence for Balochistan? When did India say it was seeking US approval for doing anything in Balochistan?

To be fair, Modi is seeking approval from USA just about anything. After the rejection pattern from Turkey, Arab nations, China, USA, that doesn't stop Modi continuing to seek approval. He has embarrassed himself in front of the world, and to the extent, he is attending in almost every conferences to propagate anti-Pakistan stances. His obsession with Pakistan has gotten much much deeper now. There is saying the hatred does cloud the rational judgement. :D
 
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Sept. 15: The Obama administration has flatly refused to go along with Prime Minister Narendra Modi's formulations on Balochistan.

It has questioned the contention that Hafiz Saeed was the architect of the Mumbai terrorist attacks in 2008 and firmly ruled out any sanctions on Pakistan for promoting terrorism.

Further, the US has obliquely warned India in public - and more directly in private - about the possibility of a terrorist attack from across the border in Pakistan.


India-Pakistan disputes, which had largely disappeared from being a permanent item on the US state department's daily briefing agenda since the Kargil war and the 2001 Parliament attack, are back at the front and centre of Washington's public enunciation of foreign policy.

In the past one week, India-Pakistan relations took up considerable time every day during the briefings at Foggy Bottom, the site of the state department headquarters. Without mincing words, the Obama administration has made it clear that it wants India and Pakistan to resume their dialogue to "de-escalate tensions" and work towards "cordial, and productive relations".

On Balochistan, the state department's spokesperson, John Kirby, said the US "respects the unity and territorial integrity of Pakistan and we do not support independence for Balochistan".

He refused to make common cause with India on human rights violations in the restive Pakistani province, which were raised by India at the UN Human Rights Council at its ongoing session in Geneva on Wednesday.

When reporters tried to corner the spokesperson on on Modi's Independence Day initiative to internationalise the Balochistan problem, Kirby hastily attempted to end his briefing.

"Okay. Thanks, everybody," he said and folded his briefing book indicating that the press conference was over. Obviously, the Obama administration did not want to snub Modi by openly disagreeing with him.

The reporters managed to extend the briefing, however, by changing the subject. Said one very persevering reporter: "Wait, I got two very...."

He quickly asked a question on Syria which Kirby obligingly answered. Then the briefing continued about the Hezbollah of Lebanon.

Deputy spokesperson Mark Toner's refusal to go along with a reporter's description of Lashkar-e-Toiba co-founder Saeed as the "mastermind" of the terrorist outrage in Mumbai eight years ago was infinitely more unexpected than the US response on Balochistan.

Toner: You are saying this (Saeed) is one of the architects of the Mumbai attack?

Questioner: Yeah.

Toner: Who made this statement? I mean, I would dismiss it outright.

He then proceeded to extol America's "strong bilateral relationship" with Pakistan and argued that the relationship "is premised on counter-terrorism cooperation".

In what sounded like a sop for India, Toner added: "As part of that conversation or that dialogue and that cooperation that we have on counter-terrorism issues, we made it very clear that Pakistan cannot pick and choose which terrorist groups it goes after and it has to go after those groups that seek to do harm to its neighbours and may seek refuge on Pakistani soil."

Reporters took Toner to task for not imposing sanctions on Pakistan for the lack of progress in bringing the perpetrators of the 2008 Mumbai attack to justice: not because it was an attack on India but only because six Americans lost their lives in that terrorist outrage.

"If the same six Americans were killed in any other country, we would have had sanctions, we would have - talk(ed) more tough. Why aren't we doing that with Pakistan? There is - where is the talk? Where is the - it is only the statements from the podiums," ranted an angry reporter at the briefing.

Toner replied: "Well, again, you are asking me - and the question was whether we are looking at sanctioning Pakistan. No. The answer is that we are working with Pakistan, we are making our concerns clear that they need to go after all the terrorist groups that are operating or seeking safe haven on their soil. And that has been our clear objective for a long time now."

In a straight contradiction of the Indian position on the issue, Toner claimed that "we have seen progress (by Pakistan), but we need to see more".

He revealed that the US has been pressing India and Pakistan to share intelligence. "We have been very clear that we want to see accountability and justice in the case of the Mumbai attacks and, as you noted, there were American citizens who lost their lives in that - those terrible attacks. We have long encouraged and pushed for greater counter-terrorism cooperation, and that includes the sharing of intelligence between India and Pakistan in that regard. That continues, those efforts continue. As I said, we want to see full accountability for these terrible attacks."

Sources in Washington have said the Obama administration is worried that if tensions between India and Pakistan continue to be ratcheted up, a terrorist attack like the one in Mumbai eight years ago cannot be ruled out, not necessarily with state support from non-state actors across the border.

These fears were conveyed to India during the recent Strategic and Commercial Dialogue in New Delhi, not on the basis of any hard evidence, but dictated by logic and experiences from the history of India-Pakistan relations.

The public expression of these fears at the state department briefing was very circumspect. Toner said the US was encouraging India and Pakistan to resume their dialogue "out of just that concern, which is that we don't want to see tensions escalate, spiral out of control and lead to some kind of incident".

In intelligence parlance these days, "incident" is code for a terrorist attack. The rationale in having publicly articulated Washington's fears, albeit in a guarded manner, may have been to convey the urgency of resuming the India-Pakistan dialogue to a wider audience than those that were part of the recent Indo-US Strategic and Commercial Dialogue.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1160916/jsp/frontpage/story_108513.jsp#.V9t2G_krLIU
Winds are changing , Pakistan is emerging as business partner in the region. Now Chinese has huge interest in Baluchistan , so India shouldn't even talk about it. Otherwise Indian NSG dream will take another 50 years. Plus, India has already lost its grip on foreign policy. Indian mantra of introducing Pakistan as terrorist state is over now. World has no interest in this slogan any more. Every country wants its share of business.
 
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