Opinionated - What is the best place to settle Muslims of the Europe and the West

[HalfMoon]

Someone is really trying hard to turn Muslims into the Jews of pre-1945.

With all the attacks across North America and the Europe, people are now predicting that Muslims of Europe are going to be the Jews in 21st century.

So we need to find what is the best place for Muslims to be resettled? North Africa? West Asia? South Asia? or South East Asia?

 

[Cliftonite]

India

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

India

LoL Why not Pakistan?

On topic:

The best way would be to resettle them in their countries of origin.

 

[Khan vilatey]

It’s a catch 22 situation, a large majority of the worlds young people are from Muslim countries. The alternate is Chinese or Indians. So from a western perspective they need to adjust to the reality that all future migration will be from a perceived enemy or at best different race.

with a massive decline in Caucasian birth rates the future of immigration to the west to rejuvenate their ageing population will be from Asia and then Africa. If there is so much hatred against the brown and yellow race how will these courtiers survive?

the current social structure setup in the west requires the younger population to contribute so the older population can retire

k

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

It’s a catch 22 situation, a large majority of the worlds young people are from Muslim countries. The alternate is Chinese or Indians. So from a western perspective they need to adjust to the reality that all future migration will be from a perceived enemy or at best different race.

with a massive decline in Caucasian birth rates the future of immigration to the west to rejuvenate their ageing population will be from Asia and then Africa. If there is so much hatred against the brown and yellow race how will these courtiers survive?

the current social structure setup in the west requires the younger population to contribute so the older population can retire

k

Falling Caucasian birth rates is the crux of the problem.

 

[vostok]

Europe has one the biggest density of population so it will only win if a few dozens of millions leave.
Short term solution is wider using of robotics, but in long term Europe need to rethink its way of life to increase birth rates.

 

[Khan vilatey]

Europe has one the biggest density of population so it will only win if a few dozens of millions leave.
Short term solution is wider using of robotics, but in long term Europe need to rethink its way of life to increase birth rates.

Or keep changing their demographic with more and more high birth rate Asians and middle easterners

k

 

[vostok]

Or keep changing their demographic with more and more high birth rate Asians and middle easterners

k

What is the point to expel one group of foreigners and let in another one? I do not see any logic.

 

[Khan vilatey]

What is the point to expel one group of foreigners and let in another one? I do not see any logic.

Who would you replace these folks as in 20 -30 years low birth rates would force a massive inclusion of these races in the demographic.

So demonizing this group of people today would force alienation and significant integration issues. This would eventually leads to the new majority forcing there values and doing the same thing to the minority that it once did when they were in power.

so a lot of effort should be put in the west to integrate these communities and acceptance of some of their different values within the national Physique.

k.

 

[ummarz]

Muslim is not a race!, nor do they belong to a particular country!. Anybody of any race and any country can choose to believe in Islam. Islam can be embraced by the local population of Europe, just as they embraced Christianity once, and now are embracing atheism.
Pointless flame bate thread, it should be locked down by the Mods. Glad to see that this guy has been banned already.

 

[Cherub786]

North America hands down is the best place for Muslim minorities anywhere in the world

 

[masterchief_mirza]

North America hands down is the best place for Muslim minorities anywhere in the world

It probably is. Mainland Europe suffers from some weird delusional traits. UK is pretty good though. Many non-muslims here are actually quite sensible, once you exclude the "Daily Mail whingers" and of course the Indian diaspora.

 

[Cherub786]

It probably is. Mainland Europe suffers from some weird delusional traits. UK is pretty good though. Many non-muslims here are actually quite sensible, once you exclude the "Daily Mail whingers" and of course the Indian diaspora.

I agree the UK is the best part of Europe for Muslims. But the UK is still inferior to the US and Canada.
I've never been to the UK. It has its pluses and minuses. For one thing, there's a hugely concentrated Muslim community, and they are Desi Muslims too. Desi Muslims from my observation are the most conscious and emphatic of their religious identity, unlike Arabs, Iranians, Turks, Afghans and others. They are the best at establishing institutions to create a cohesive community even as a minority. I guess that comes from the fact that for most of our history we were a minority in India, even if our rulers were Muslims, but those rulers weren't indigenous to India. Arabs have little experience with being a minority, they have little experience with politics too since they basically come from dictatorships.

If you go to an Arab mosque here in the West, you will see that for them the mosque isn't as central and crucial an institution as it is for Desi Muslims. The reason is in the Arab world the mosque is only for the five prayers. Go to any Arab mosque and see how quickly it's emptied after the Fard Jama'ah. They either rush through their Sunnah like the police is after them or don't pray it at all. After generations of being under dictatorships and surveillance states, the Arabs don't have the strong attachment to a mosque as Desi Muslims do. And remember, for a Muslim minority the Mosque is the most crucial institution to act as a glue keeping the community together, giving them guidance and direction along with leadership.
Note that in France their project is to eventually put Mosques under State control. The State will appoint the imams and khatibs, soon they'll even be writing the khutbahs.
Now tell me how can a Muslim minority community have any independence when their Friday sermons are written by the government and their imams are State functionaries?
Arabs have never really had true religious freedom and independence, hence why in Europe yeh ulu ke pathay maar kha jatay hein.

Getting back to the UK, the negatives are there is such a strong anti-Muslim "English nationalist" community there. Although a minority, they are extremely active and unlike the Alt-Right in the US, their main target (perhaps only target) are Muslims. The British media is also prone to giving negative press to the Muslim community.