Opinionated - The child cursed Ukraine in mother's womb (18+)

[ProudPak]

Naturally, no one agrees with the war and does not approve of it. However, it should be noted that the fate of nations and governments is not sudden and is not determined by parliament. Rather, this fate is formed in the roots of society, in historical trends and in the scope of a nation's behavior.

As for Russia's war with Ukraine, the situation is similar and there is nothing outside the preceding rule.
The Ukrainians, especially during and after the Euromaidan revolution in 2014, have not only not treated the Russians well, but also have followed U.S. strategy, and have not adhered to Russia's security considerations as a hegemonic country.

Since 2014, the phenomenon that has added to the depths of hatred of both sides every day since 2014, and of course, these kiev officials have taken a hard time in this hatred and have been hoping for U.S. and NATO assistance and membership in the European Union.
On the other hand, it is obvious that a hegemonic country cannot ignore its security considerations anywhere in the world. Just as Islamic Iran, as a hegemonic country, is sensitive about security developments in Iraqi Kurdistan, and in some cases has been involved in military operations in this regard.

Of course, it is reaffirmed that the war is bitter and at any moment we must try to stop it, but the huge considerations that guarantee the collective security of the people and the country and affect today and the future are more important than war.
With this introduction, it is easier to talk about the ticket that the Ukrainians are trapped in...

As we have noted, the events surrounding a country are not separate from the behavior of its nation.

In fact, even if we do not consider the discussion of divine traditions, the experience of history easily proves how, for example, Spain, after the oppression of Christians to Muslims and ethnic cleansing in the blood of Andalusia over the past centuries, has never been able to see on a united country again, and it continues to suffer from division and polarization.
In the Ukraine debate, a look at the strange behavior of Ukrainians towards Russians during the 2014 revolution is an example, and today's disasters explain Ukraine better.

These Ukrainians were pro-Revolution Euromaidans, who in those days hanged a pregnant woman and her husband for Russian-ism, euphorically, and filmed the torture.

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The picture of a pregnant mother executed and tortured by Ukrainian Neo-NAZIs

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Ukrainian revolutionaries set fire to Russian fan rally center in Odessa burning at least 30 pro Russian people alive


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Crucifixion of a pro Russian man in Ukraine


Of course, the hotness of the torture business in Ukraine is not only subject to the days of the American staged Revolution of Euromaidan.

Recently, during the Ukraine war, a video has also been posted on Twitter showing Ukrainians tying some alleged "Russian looters" to the tree and torturing them!
There is also more news that Ukrainians tortured Russian captives.

These events, all of which show a collective interest in torture and torture, clearly show why the current government in Kiev is a lax and imprudent government that the Ukrainian people have no desire to defend.

https://www.24-news.ir/video/93323/صلیب-کشیدن-روس-تبارها-توسط-اوکراینی-ها-فیلم


I personally belive that poor child cursed Ukraine in mother's womb.

There are sick satanic people on this planet

 

[Foinikas]

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THESE ATROCITIES ABOVE, ARE WHAT EVERY EAST EUROPEAN STATE IS RUNNING AWAY FROM.

Do you realize that this was done during the Communist rule? And most of it during the Revolution,Civil War and Stalinist era? For about 1000 years Ukraine or Malorossia was a significant part of the Russian nation. With parts conquered by Mongols,Poles,Tatars yes,but eventually it was retaken by the Tsars.

 

[waz]

Most of them are neo-pagans.

Are they?

 

[Oublious]

sheikh Suyinik Gougarek, the armenian lover....

 

[Foinikas]

Are they?

Yeah. In Central and Northern Europe they are more into Germanic mythology and neo-paganism,in Russia and Ukraine
they are mostly into ancient Slavic paganism.

"Most soldiers of Azov are followers of a Ukrainian nationalist type of Rodnovery (Slavic Native Faith), wherefrom they derive some of their symbolism (such as a variation of the swastika symbol kolovrat). They have also established Rodnover shrines for their religious rites, including one in Mariupol dedicated to Perun.[105]"

 

[waz]

Yeah. I'm Central and Northern Europe they are more into Germanic mythology and neo-paganism,in Russia and Ukraine
they are mostly into ancient Slavic paganism.

"Most soldiers of Azov are followers of a Ukrainian nationalist type of Rodnovery (Slavic Native Faith), wherefrom they derive some of their symbolism (such as a variation of the swastika symbol kolovrat). They have also established Rodnover shrines for their religious rites, including one in Mariupol dedicated to Perun.[105]"

Thanks my friend, I didn't know that. Abandoning Orthodox Christianity for that.

 

[Indian Libertarian]

Do you realize that this was done during the Communist rule? And most of it during the Revolution,Civil War and Stalinist era? For about 1000 years Ukraine or Malorossia was a significant part of the Russian nation. With parts conquered by Mongols,Poles,Tatars yes,but eventually it was retaken by the Tsars.

Not to mention that most of those totalitarian crimes occurred throughout the Soviet Union. There were many millions of Russians, Georgians, Kazakhs, etc. who also met the same fate from political purges and collectivization famines. The ties between Russia and Ukraine recovered for the rest of the USSR’s existence. Even in the 21st century it had been good before the Maidan coup.

 

[Foinikas]

Thanks my friend, I didn't know that. Abandoning Orthodox Christianity for that.

And what these people don't understand is that the Germans wanted to either exterminate them or keep them as slaves.
Literally as slaves,they wanted them to work in the fields or taken back to Germany to work there. Hitler wanted Leningrad and Moscow destroyed completely and he didn't care about human losses. He considered them subhumans,yet these people talk about "White Race" and Nazi Germany.

They have forgotten Holy Rus and in order to oppose communism they go to Nazism and Slavic paganism.

Not to mention that most of those totalitarian crimes occurred throughout the Soviet Union. There were many millions of Russians, Georgians, Kazakhs, etc. who also met the same fate from political purges and collectivization famines. The ties between Russia and Ukraine recovered for the rest of the USSR’s existence. Even in the 21st century it had been good before the Maidan coup.

Of course. And you know who supported the Euromaidan...maybe even paid them to riot...

 

[waz]

And what these people don't understand is that the Germans wanted to either exterminate them or keep them as slaves.
Literally as slaves,they wanted them to work in the fields or taken back to Germany to work there. Hitler wanted Leningrad and Moscow destroyed completely and he didn't care about human losses. He considered them subhumans,yet these people talk about "White Race" and Nazi Germany.

They have forgotten Holy Rus and in order to oppose communism they go to Nazism and Slavic paganism.


Of course. And you know who supported the Euromaidan...maybe even paid them to riot...

Good points, agreed with you 100%.

 

[jamahir]

These are the same concerns every modern Islamic country is crying about: to stop generalizing extremism. But for some reason PDF members like you, want to do the same thing for Ukraine. I don't understand why you spew out biased Russian propaganda. You are the equivalent of western journalists who were supporting US claims of Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction in the early 2000s, just for the sake of justifying the hawkish rhetoric.

You speak about the lies about Iraq uttered by the mainstream American and British journalists but you don't see the irony of you supporting the same American and British journalist now lying about Russia in the Ukraine issue. The Ukrainian military, including the embedded Nazi elements, is not allowing the civilians to leave cities ( there was a violent short vid in the war mega thread about this ), the Ukranian military is firing rockets and artillery from civilian areas, such things, yet you support it and Zelensky just because you live in USA ? Why should you be beholden to the USA government ? You have your own sensibility, unless you hate Communism ( why ? ) and you extend that to hating post-USSR Russia.

I'm saying that all of this can be faked

But to what end ? There was a French female journalist whose short interview was released on a Western TV channel some days ago. She was there in former Eastern Ukraine since 2015 I think and she spoke of the Ukranian military relentlessly bombarding essentially what were its own people.

Not to mention that most of those totalitarian crimes occurred throughout the Soviet Union. There were many millions of Russians, Georgians, Kazakhs, etc. who also met the same fate from political purges and collectivization famines. The ties between Russia and Ukraine recovered for the rest of the USSR’s existence. Even in the 21st century it had been good before the Maidan coup.

Looking at the world, whether the West or the dystopian society called India, I have realized why gulags were maintained in societies the Western governments called totalitarian. Some people just don't think, are non-empathetic and actually psychopathic and thus support anti-human thought in others. Thoughts that are obscene and should not be tolerated for the collective good of local and human society. You yourself look at the West and India and other such places and tell me if they are not miserable societies with outward stupid illusions of things like private cars and presence of expensive handbags ( which of course most people won't ever have in their lives ).

You mention collectivization in USSR in farming presumably. Look at the unscientific Indian farming system of tiny to small land holdings that start from one acre to a few more acres. The farmers through this itself and through the surrounding socio-economic system are not able to grow wealthy enough in the Capitalist system and many end up suiciding for socio-economic reasons. Just between 1995 and 2015 more than 350,000 Indian farmers suicided because of socio-economic reasons. How many more before just since 1947 ? How many after 2015 ? Needless deaths, caused by the stupid system. Are their deaths not worth speaking of just like you focused on some mythical famine in USSR ?