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Opinionated - China Chipping Away to Semiconductor Dominance

So from 2014, the year this thread was created, all that China has managed to do is set up fabs, and that too by I guess importing foreign machinery ( Dutch ? ) ?

In these seven years China hasn't managed to give to the world some indigenous processor architecture or some new type of memory ( like from the American company Nantero ).

All that China has managed in these seven years is use Western architectures and technologies and at maximum build big factories to manufacture these items.

So what is the so-called dominance about ?

YMTC introduced a new fab technique called X-tacking for NAND flash to essentially double memory density by separately fabricating the readout circuits and the memory circuits on 2 separate wafers, then bonding them. This was rewarded by the 2018 Best of Show award in flash memory.

Previous memory architectures required that the logic IC be fabricated next to the memory IC. This reduces memory density. In addition, the entire chip is limited by the largest or least efficient process. X-tacking allows for much higher memory density because the logic IC no longer takes up room next to the memory IC but is rather stacked on top of it. In addition it allows separate processes on the logic portion and the memory portion, allowing each process to be optimized for each.

In contrast, your Nantero was founded in 2001 and still does not have a commercial product. It was talked about as a "startup to watch"... in 2013. So currently, no, they don't have a new form of memory. It's just theoretical.
 
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Shanghai-based AMEC, the largest semiconductor equipment vendor on the Chinese mainland, reported a 161-percent jump in net profit last year thanks to investment returns and booming chip demands, the STAR-listed firm said on Thursday.

AMEC’s revenue last year gained 16.8 percent to 2.27 billion yuan (US$349.2 million) while net profit surged to 492 million yuan.

It was in the middle of the company’s previous expectations, which had forecast its net profit hitting 440 to 520 million yuan.
AMEC offers core equipment for chip makers such as SMIC, the top chipmaker on the Chinese mainland.

Among the net profit total, AMEC earned 262 million yuan for holding shares in SMIC, which listed in the Shanghai STAR Market last year. SMIC is now the STAR Market’s No. 1 firm by market value.

Shanghai plans to double the value of the local integrated circuit industry by 2025, which boost the whole industry, especially local firms such as AMEC, SMIC and National Silicon.

But AMEC also faces an uncertain business environment.

SMIC, its major client, was added in the US Entity List last year, which affected its sales and capacity, and further influenced sales of AMEC’s equipment.

Source: SHINE Editor: Wang Yanlin
 
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212799.shtml

Alternative RISC and ISA are not difficult at all. You can even use different types to build some new variations.

It is like saying some Chinese manufacturer of chips use ARM architecture is bad like Feynman using Arabic numbers means Feynman cannot do anything without it.

Anyway Sunway is different from Loongsoon and others. There are many Chinese companies that have only recently started doing good progress.

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Chinese GPU design firm Moore Thread raises billions in financing 100 days after founding-CnTechPost


Moore Thread, a Chinese GPU chip design company, announced on February 25 that it has raised two rounds of funding totaling billions of RMB.

The Pre-A round was led by Shenzhen Capital Group, Sequoia Capital, and GGV Capital, with other investors including China Merchants Group and ByteDance participating.

The funds will be used to drive technology development, early market expansion, and follow-on product development, the company said.

Founded in October 2020, Moore Thread says its core members come from NVIDIA, Microsoft, Intel, AMD, Arm, and others, with key members having more than 10+ years of experience in GPU drivers, compilation, AI chips, and software algorithms.


Moore Thread says it is a mature team that can cover the complete structure of GPU R&D and design, manufacturing, marketing and sales, and service support.

Moore Thread says the founders have more than 15 years of experience in the industry and have led the world's top chip companies to develop the China GPU ecosystem.

Rumor has it that Moore Thread's founder is James Zhang Jianzhong, NVIDIA's global vice president and general manager of China.

Zhang joined NVIDIA in May 2005 and has been with the company for over 15 years, and is rumored to have left NVIDIA in last September, while Moore Thread was registered last October.

 

The Chinese government will give strong support to the chip industry at the national level, a Chinese official said today.

Tian Yulong, the chief engineer of the Industry and Information Technology of China (MIIT), introduced the development of China's chip industry in a press conference on the morning of March 1.

Chip integrated circuits are the cornerstone of the information society, and the high-quality development of the chip industry is related to the development of the modern information industry and industrial chain, Tian said.

The Chinese government attaches great importance to the chip industry and integrated circuit industry, and has issued policies to promote the high-quality development of the integrated circuit industry and software industry, he stated.

"The chip industry needs to strengthen cooperation on a global scale to build a chip industry chain together to make it more sustainable and provide support for the development of information technology in China and globally," Tian said.


China's IC sales revenue reaches RMB 884.8 billion ($136.8 billion) in 2020, with an average growth rate of 20 percent, three times the growth rate of the global industry in the same period.



China to give greater support to chip industry, MIIT says-CnTechPost


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Different light sources from different countries for the same machine.
Maybe ASML is trying to secure the Chinese market?
 
USA government have just approved licences for suppliers to resume its supplies to SMIC for the 14nm and 28nm process. :coffee:
 
USA government have just approved licences for suppliers to resume its supplies to SMIC for the 14nm and 28nm process. :coffee:
Biden can't stop the ban, but he can approve individual export licenses. Trump was angry with China personally. Biden can't appear soft.
 
IMO it may have something to do with the acute chips shortage that has crippled US automakers. The problem won't go away with any Presidential Executive Order.

Whatever the machinery is already set into motion and China will not divert from its present course and that is to achieve self reliance and sufficiency.

The other breaking news is President Xi Jinping has heaped his praise for Jack Ma's Alibaba for their contribution to poverty elevation in China.
This is especially confusing to Western News Media who earlier claimed that President Xi is personally responsible for the persecution of Jack Ma. :coffee:

Biden can't stop the ban, but he can approve individual export licenses. Trump was angry with China personally. Biden can't appear soft.
Don't get it wrong, these approvals for the licence are issued by US FCC and not by President Biden. He hasn't done anything yet. It was Trump who was responsible for issuing those executive orders back in December 2020.
 
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Biden can't stop the ban, but he can approve individual export licenses. Trump was angry with China personally. Biden can't appear soft.
Biden can appear soft, and not many will ever care.

Saying that Beijing is a political pinata for American politicians doesn't mean that they can't speak loud, and do nothing at the same time.
 
USA government have just approved licences for suppliers to resume its supplies to SMIC for the 14nm and 28nm process. :coffee:
This is just an indication of China's progress - the slimy weasels will only clear nodes China has already or will soon achieve self-sufficiency in in an attempt to take sales from Chinese companies. I guarantee that in a few years, ASML will suddenly be granted a licence to export its EUV to China.
 
Semiconductor showdown: TSMC, Intel, Samsung, Global Foundries, IBM, SMIC, and UMC

This thread is for people who are interested in semiconductors. I'll start with two posts about SMIC and TSMC's 16nm FinFET. Afterwards, I'll start analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of the various competing firms. Also, I will illuminate the reasons behind TSMC's current technological lead and evaluate the probability of other companies in closing the gap.

In essence, this thread will keep an eye on the semiconductor industry and keep track of who's winning or losing.
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SMIC is China's largest semiconductor manufacturer. Its future prospect looks really good.

Firstly, SMIC derives an astounding 40 percent of its revenue from China. With a strong home market, SMIC will continue to prosper as the Chinese economy grows at 7.5% annually.

Secondly, SMIC has caught up to Global Foundries, Samsung, and UMC at 28nm. This means SMIC is no longer confined to the low end of the semiconductor industry. SMIC can now compete at the middle of the market, which comprises the bulk of industry sales.

In October 2011, TSMC was the first foundry to mass manufacture wafers (and chips) at 28nm. TSMC was able to charge a premium for about two years until Global Foundries and Samsung caught up in technology and yield.

In January 2014, TSMC transitioned to a more advanced 20nm process. Currently, Qualcomm and Apple are paying a premium to mass manufacture chips with TSMC's 20nm technology. 28nm has become a commodity and no longer commands a premium.
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SMIC caps two-year turnaround with record-high earnings | South China Morning Post

"SMIC caps two-year turnaround with record-high earnings
by Bien Perez
19 February, 2014

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SMIC's wafer foundry in Shanghai expects more orders for chips on the back of China's 4G mobile network expansion. (Photo: Bloomberg)

Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp (SMIC), the mainland's largest contract chipmaker, expects business in its core mainland market to pick up later this year on the back of the country's 4G mobile network expansion and the growing adoption of smart cards.

"We expect more significant ramp-up in 2015," SMIC chief executive Chiu Tzu-yin said in a conference call with analysts yesterday.

The once-struggling, Shanghai-based company capped a remarkable two-year turnaround under Chiu when it reported record earnings for the 12 months to December.

Its net profit last year rose 660 per cent to a record US$173.2 million, from US$22.8 million in 2012, due to strong demand from customers on the mainland, increased wafer revenue and greater use of capacity at its chip fabrication plants.




Revenue increased about 22 per cent to a record US$2.07 billion from US$1.70 billion in 2012.

'China continues to be a leading source of high growth for SMIC,' Chiu said. 'In 2013, China accounted for 40.4 per cent of our total revenue.'

Mainland customers consist of domestic 'fabless' semiconductor companies, which design chips and outsource fabrication to semiconductor foundries like SMIC.

The company's biggest multinational customers include Texas Instruments and Qualcomm, which supply most of the essential semiconductors used in smartphones.

Inventory correction, however, saw SMIC post a 68.5 per cent year-on-year decline in fourth-quarter net profit to US$14.68 million. Revenue advanced 1.2 per cent to US$491.79 million.

In a research note, Bernstein Research forecast SMIC's 40/45-nanometre foundry process, which primarily makes chips for applications such as smartphones and media tablets, would contribute up to 25 per cent of total revenue this year, compared with 13 per cent last year.

Bernstein said it expected further growth for SMIC to come from capacity expansion. Last June, SMIC formed a US$3.6 billion joint venture with Beijing's municipal government to build a new chip fabrication plant in the capital.

SMIC's capital expenditure this year will reach US$880 million, of which US$570 million will be for the Beijing project."
EDA tools will be the biggest hurdle. If China solves this issue then we can expect something substantial from China. Otherwise its all is like license production.
 

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