Opinion: Imran Khan overthrown because of collision with doctrine of Military Establishment?

[Rank]

Praising your enemy's strengths doesn't make you a traitor. Actually we should all learn good things from our enemies.

India's foreign policy is really independent. It's one of their top three strengths (others being population and buying power).

Another strength of India is its election commission, that doesn't listen to anyone.. Another one is its policy that says one can't have dual nationality.. either you are an Indian or a Non Indian.. a reason why you don't see many judges/ bureaucrats/ politicians/ generals settling abroad.

Imran was critical of India's human rights abuses.. that's its biggest weakness.. and he made sure to highlight that at every forum..

So if he has been sidelined just because of his praise for India's independent foreign policy, it's very unfortunate.

Build your economy, and then do whatever you want.

 

[PakSword]

Build your economy, and then do whatever you want.

To build that, you need to put corrupts behind the bars.. Our corrupt politicians enjoy life within and outside of Pakistan.

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

It was bound to happen!

There were multiple shut-up calls sent to IK for not praising India's foreign policy publicly, but he wasn't listening and deliberately avoiding it. You can not do this. He directly collided with the pivot of Pakistan's non-kinetic strategic policies. IK stepped outside the boundary, which was disastrous at all levels. He was capturing the attention of the Indian establishment and govt corridors.

Indian mainstream media was covering IK since day one but once he starts praising India's foreign policy, there was an unexpected sudden change in the entire Indian media coverage and their narrative. Certainly, it was an expected move obviously. As of now, the Indian fascist regime has already built favorable grounds with respect to Kashmir FP (by utilizing Khan's recent remarks) and you will see this in the upcoming general elections.

Rationally, we are aligned with the western establishment and their policies since the partition, however, Pakistan's military always stands like a fireball when it comes to their defined doctrine. They won't tolerate, and won’t compromise if you directly interfere in their policies regarding India. For the west, that's completely acceptable if they really need Pakistan’s irrational support. No one can force Pakistan's military to accept Indian hegemony in the region.

Khan’s anonymous intervention into the domain that was pre-established by Pakistan’s powerful military establishment was completely unacceptable to them. That was an unintelligent, and brainless approach on IK's part. Consequently, that was enough reason to thrash IK from the power without wasting any time. NS tried that twice, and both times he was thrashed by the powers'.

Everyone should understand that there is a reason behind the existence of Pakistan, there is a reason for having armed forces and there are enough reasons for having anti-Indian doctrine and vice-versa.

Over!

PS: I know what Quaid said, I know all good captions and quotes, who should run the foreign policy, Army should be under the command of PM bla bla bla ... in reality, Pak military owns the country and they are the ones who drive the state policy whether you like it or not. Once you deviate from it, you will face the consequences.

One would hope that military would also have red lines with regards to corruption and essentially doing long term damage. How is Pakistan going to compete with India which is many times larger with massively corrupt leadership at the healm? That should be right up there amongst the top red lines.

I'd buy the India line of reasoning if the people IK was being replaced with were not PMLn and PPP. If pmln could be brought back to power despite never uttering a word on Kashmir or kalbhoshan Yaduv or their leadership having supposed close personal and business ties with Indians, I don't see how this argument can be considered believable.

Was it Ayaz Sadiq who said that Gen. Bajwa was overcome with fear and was trembling after Balakot? Let alone the full on open campaign the pmln ran against the military? What about dawn leaks or memogate? How are those people coming back - not their later generations they themselves?

 

[Acetic Acid]

So Our Intelligent military minds got angry when someone criticized their foreign policy

 

[Rank]

Salaam




One would hope that military would also have red lines with regards to corruption and essentially doing long term damage.

I'd buy the India line of reasoning if the people IK was being replaced with were not PMLn and PPP. If pmln could be brought back to power despite never uttering a word on Kashmir or kalbhoshan Yaduv or their leadership having supposed close personal and business ties with Indians, I don't see how this argument can be considered believable.

Was it Ayaz Sadiq who said that Gen. Bajwa was overcome with fear and was trembling after Balakot? Let alone the full on open campaign the pmln ran against the military? What about dawn leaks or memogate? How are those people coming back - not their later generations they themselves?

Wasalam,

You and your statement only matter when you are in position, the rest is just random lines.

Meri Govt may Tomhokaaa banaaya gaya ... there is ZERO value in his words, but if panda says a similar thing while in position, his words will get worldwide attention.

So Our Intelligent military minds got angry when someone criticized their foreign policy

You have doubt?

 

[nangyale]

Praising your enemy's strengths doesn't make you a traitor. Actually we should all learn good things from our enemies.

India's foreign policy is really independent. It's one of their top three strengths (others being population and buying power).

Another strength of India is its election commission, that doesn't listen to anyone.. Another one is its policy that says one can't have dual nationality.. either you are an Indian or a Non Indian.. a reason why you don't see many judges/ bureaucrats/ politicians/ generals settling abroad.

Imran was critical of India's human rights abuses.. that's its biggest weakness.. and he made sure to highlight that at every forum..

So if he has been sidelined just because of his praise for India's independent foreign policy, it's very unfortunate.

An example I can give here.. Imagine Pakistan cricket team's captain says that Indian board is preparing fast pitches for the team to give tough time to Australia in Australia, while we are not being provided with such pitches for practice. That's halaal praise... halaal criticism is that when Pakistan team's captain highlights that India has a huge bookie network and that network is targeting cricketers all over the world and maligning the game's reputation.. that's again halaal criticism..

Again I will add, this excuse about praising Indian foreign policy is nothing but a strawman argument by General Bajwa.

The chief defender of Pakistan is caught selling his state to the highest bidder and now he is desperate to find an excuse. Literally any excuse.

 

[Rank]

To build that, you need to put corrupts behind the bars.. Our corrupt politicians enjoy life within and outside of Pakistan.

IK got a chance and he miserably failed!

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

Wasalam,

You and your statement only matter when you are in position, the rest is just random lines.

Meri Govt may Tomhokaaa banaaya gaya ... there is ZERO value in his words, but if panda says a similar thing while in position, his words will get worldwide attention.



You have doubt?

Weren't dawn leaks and memogate both by pmln and ppp whilst they were in power?

 

[PakFactor]

It was bound to happen!

There were multiple shut-up calls sent to IK for not praising India's foreign policy publicly, but he wasn't listening and deliberately avoiding it. You can not do this. He directly collided with the pivot of Pakistan's non-kinetic strategic policies. IK stepped outside the boundary, which was disastrous at all levels. He was capturing the attention of the Indian establishment and govt corridors.

Indian mainstream media was covering IK since day one but once he starts praising India's foreign policy, there was an unexpected sudden change in the entire Indian media coverage and their narrative. Certainly, it was an expected move obviously. As of now, the Indian fascist regime has already built favorable grounds with respect to Kashmir FP (by utilizing Khan's recent remarks) and you will see this in the upcoming general elections.

Rationally, we are aligned with the western establishment and their policies since the partition, however, Pakistan's military always stands like a fireball when it comes to their defined doctrine. They won't tolerate, and won’t compromise if you directly interfere in their policies regarding India. For the west, that's completely acceptable if they really need Pakistan’s irrational support. No one can force Pakistan's military to accept Indian hegemony in the region.

Khan’s anonymous intervention into the domain that was pre-established by Pakistan’s powerful military establishment was completely unacceptable to them. That was an unintelligent, and brainless approach on IK's part. Consequently, that was enough reason to thrash IK from the power without wasting any time. NS tried that twice, and both times he was thrashed by the powers'.

Everyone should understand that there is a reason behind the existence of Pakistan, there is a reason for having armed forces and there are enough reasons for having anti-Indian doctrine and vice-versa.

Over!

PS: I know what Quaid said, I know all good captions and quotes, who should run the foreign policy, Army should be under the command of PM bla bla bla ... in reality, Pak military owns the country and they are the ones who drive the state policy whether you like it or not. Once you deviate from it, you will face the consequences.

My mind doesn't recall which Israeli leader book I read a decade ago he said he would read and study his enemies, to the point of praising them to fix his own faults within.

 

[Farah Sohail]

I am just amazed how much more lame excuses can Bajwa and co come up with.. to coverup their role in planting imported government in Pak? Can only laugh at the desperation

 

[Rank]

Salaam



Weren't dawn leaks and memogate both by pmln and ppp whilst they were in power?

Memogate > Gillani kicked and PPP power enormously squeezed.
Dawn leaks > NS kicked out forever

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

IK got a chance and he miserably failed!

Why doesn't the military establishment do it if IK failed? Why are they, instead of doing what IK failed miserably to do and rid pakistan of corruption, bringing these corrupt people back to rule the country? The PM is literally out on bail for corruption and money laundering related charges worth billions.

 

[Flight of falcon]

It was bound to happen!

There were multiple shut-up calls sent to IK for not praising India's foreign policy publicly, but he wasn't listening and deliberately avoiding it. You can not do this. He directly collided with the pivot of Pakistan's non-kinetic strategic policies. IK stepped outside the boundary, which was disastrous at all levels. He was capturing the attention of the Indian establishment and govt corridors.

Indian mainstream media was covering IK since day one but once he starts praising India's foreign policy, there was an unexpected sudden change in the entire Indian media coverage and their narrative. Certainly, it was an expected move obviously. As of now, the Indian fascist regime has already built favorable grounds with respect to Kashmir FP (by utilizing Khan's recent remarks) and you will see this in the upcoming general elections.

Rationally, we are aligned with the western establishment and their policies since the partition, however, Pakistan's military always stands like a fireball when it comes to their defined doctrine. They won't tolerate, and won’t compromise if you directly interfere in their policies regarding India. For the west, that's completely acceptable if they really need Pakistan’s irrational support. No one can force Pakistan's military to accept Indian hegemony in the region.

Khan’s anonymous intervention into the domain that was pre-established by Pakistan’s powerful military establishment was completely unacceptable to them. That was an unintelligent, and brainless approach on IK's part. Consequently, that was enough reason to thrash IK from the power without wasting any time. NS tried that twice, and both times he was thrashed by the powers'.

Everyone should understand that there is a reason behind the existence of Pakistan, there is a reason for having armed forces and there are enough reasons for having anti-Indian doctrine and vice-versa.

Over!

PS: I know what Quaid said, I know all good captions and quotes, who should run the foreign policy, Army should be under the command of PM bla bla bla ... in reality, Pak military owns the country and they are the ones who drive the state policy whether you like it or not. Once you deviate from it, you will face the consequences. You are not a traitor if you praise your enemy's independent foreign policies but here, our govt works under extreme pressure and hostality.

What a pile of garbage you wrote. A week ago you would never ever hear me criticize the military establishment. Today I can openly say the top few generals sold out the country and our future for God knows what. I am disappointed to say the least.

We need to get rid of this mentality that the military can do no wrong. We have suffered enormously because of their twisted and illogical decisions and it needs to stop somewhere. No one defended Pakistan more and bashed India more than IK on every conceivable forum. When the military stopped shooting their guns in Kashmir, IK was still dropping bombs on them with his statements.

STOP this nonsense that the military knows better than everyone. It is NOT true and in fact opposite is true.

I support hang the judges and removing Bajwa immediately if we need to bring any stability to Pakistan.

 

[cocomo]

It was bound to happen!

There were multiple shut-up calls sent to IK for not praising India's foreign policy publicly, but he wasn't listening and deliberately avoiding it. You can not do this. He directly collided with the pivot of Pakistan's non-kinetic strategic policies. IK stepped outside the boundary, which was disastrous at all levels. He was capturing the attention of the Indian establishment and govt corridors.

Indian mainstream media was covering IK since day one but once he starts praising India's foreign policy, there was an unexpected sudden change in the entire Indian media coverage and their narrative. Certainly, it was an expected move obviously. As of now, the Indian fascist regime has already built favorable grounds with respect to Kashmir FP (by utilizing Khan's recent remarks) and you will see this in the upcoming general elections.

Rationally, we are aligned with the western establishment and their policies since the partition, however, Pakistan's military always stands like a fireball when it comes to their defined doctrine. They won't tolerate, and won’t compromise if you directly interfere in their policies regarding India. For the west, that's completely acceptable if they really need Pakistan’s irrational support. No one can force Pakistan's military to accept Indian hegemony in the region.

Khan’s anonymous intervention into the domain that was pre-established by Pakistan’s powerful military establishment was completely unacceptable to them. That was an unintelligent, and brainless approach on IK's part. Consequently, that was enough reason to thrash IK from the power without wasting any time. NS tried that twice, and both times he was thrashed by the powers'.

Everyone should understand that there is a reason behind the existence of Pakistan, there is a reason for having armed forces and there are enough reasons for having anti-Indian doctrine and vice-versa.

Over!

PS: I know what Quaid said, I know all good captions and quotes, who should run the foreign policy, Army should be under the command of PM bla bla bla ... in reality, Pak military owns the country and they are the ones who drive the state policy whether you like it or not. Once you deviate from it, you will face the consequences.

Transgression by the military has earned them a good amount of "respect" in public. Anymore victimization of Imran will destroy their image, you might not agree but Imran has the upper hand here, Imran hasn't opened his mouth since he was deseated yet they had a meeting after the social media PR disaster. You have no idea how much damage Imran can do by portraying them as American boot lickers. As far as I have heard, Bajwa will meet Imran.

How is Pakistan going to compete with India which is many times larger with massively corrupt leadership at the healm

By being a US vessel and begging which we have a history of. Pathetic.

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

Memogate > Gillani kicked and PPP power enormously squeezed.
Dawn leaks > NS kicked out forever

Yeah that's why he is coming back and his brother is pm.