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Operation Bluestar-What could have been done?

1 and 2: We Punjabi's Love our MA BOLI and Have not Betrayed it. Sade Punjab Vich Niyadae Vi Punjabi Bolda Nay :whistle:.Open your eyes and READ POST # 133. I've mentioned about Manipur. You don't know Jack about it but cant refrain yourself from Posting Gibberish
ALSO READ POST #111 :sarcastic:

PUNJAB was divided on linguistic basis. On 1 November, 1966, the Hindi-speaking southern half of Punjab became a separate state, Haryana, and the Pahari speaking hilly areas in north east were given to Himachal Pradesh. When India’s punjab was separated, the city of Chandigarh — on the border of Punjab and Haryana — became a union territory to serve as capital of both states. The city itself is controlled by the national government.

During LONGOWAL ACCORD, it was agreed THAT CHANDIGARH would be transferred to PUNJAB; A COMMISSION would determine what HINDI-SPEAKING territories would be transferred from PUNJAB TO HARYANA. However, Khalistan movement forced a postponement of the shift. If not today, then tomorrow, we’ll have our own capital. :whistle:



Guru Nanak Devji the first Guru was born in Hindu family of Mehta Kaalu Bedi. From that time He has been called Guru of Hindus. After first Guru all the Guru including Guru Gobing Singh were called Guru of Hindus by Moghal emperors specially. Moghal emperors like Orangjeb were making hindus to muslims forcibly which was against humanity. Guru Nanakdevji had refused to wear holy thread(Jane-oo), saying to Pandit that he had worn the Janeoo of truth. But when this Janeoo was being removed, sikhs had faught against this. It was felt by Gurus that Hindus were not able to protect themselves and their religion being a weaker class. Then the 10th Guru had organized them giving them a separate identity of Singh. Not only separate ID, but also given Shabad Guru to their pupils(Sikhs), since the Pandits were misinterpreting the Vedas and Shashtras for sake of self motos and were misleading the people. As said in Guru Granth Sahib "VED KATAIB KAHO MAT JHOOTHEY JHOOTHA JO NA BEECHARAE." (Prabhati Kabirji Page 1350) and "VEDA(N) MEH NAAM UTTAM SO SUNHAE NAAHEE PHIREH JEU(N) BETAALIAA." (Ramkali M. 3 page 919) But the impression of 'Gurus of Hindus' remained continued at the time of making the constitution, where as the base of sikhism is the truth that worships only one God and obeys the order of Guru. Though the Constitution needs necessary amendment, but if not, it would hardly have any affect on sikhism as it is so great that it needs not help of constitution of a country. The only problem country.

Sikhism Religion India, Principles of Sikh Religion, Sikh Religion Panth, Foundation of Sikh Religion, Sikh Religion Gurus, India

We are allowed to follow what is mentioned in the Link.

3. It has been answered couple of times in this thread.

MILITANTS were GUNNED DOWN and MILITANCY in Punjab was HAULTED . Currently, Punjab is one of India's most PROSPEROUS and PEACEFUL STATE and SIKHS ARE AMONGST THE WEALTHIEST COMMUNITIES IN INDIA. Sikhs have integrated in India and world has moved to July 2013. Our current prime minister from 9 years is Sikh “Dr. Manmohan Singh”, our chief economy advisor is Sikh “Montek Singh Ahluwalia” and our army chief is Sikh “Bikram Singh”. However, some MUSLIMS WHO SEE EVERYTHING THROUGH THE LENSES OF ISLAM are still leaving in 1980’s.

Trust me your Posts Are Joke. When I read them I :omghaha:. PROFESSIONAL instead of Becoming a Laughing Stock, start posting sensible stuff so that other respects you. :sarcastic:




This is what I mentioned in Post # 111. :cray:

Your gibberish hasn't said anything about where I have been gibberish - provided you know the meaning of the word. You don't have to lecture on the Indian eduction system or the state languages. These are basics which posters here would know.Anyway, thank you; I don't read your posts because -----
 
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Your gibberish hasn't said anything about where I have been gibberish - provided you know the meaning of the word. You don't have to lecture on the Indian eduction system or the state languages. These are basics which posters here would know.Anyway, thank you; I don't read your posts because -----

I can understand from where you are coming from ie iwanttofeelgoodaboutmyplightistan :cuckoo:
 
I would not grant them independence....You know some demands were probably valid.....Irrigation water....separate religious recognition in the constitution....land reforms!Try to strike a deal.....'we give you some of what you want and you shut up' policy!


Doesn't work like that. The Indian state does not buckle in to pressure from the gun. That would be pointless. It simply does not work. You will get enhanced demands pretty soon. The Indian state defeats insurgencies militarily, does not usually crush them (deliberate decision; Punjab might be the rare case) and negotiates from a position of strength to allow for accomodation. That is how India has always handled insurgencies. Negotiating under pressure is suicide for a state, one has to exhaust the strength behind an insurgency before negotiation can take place.
 
Doesn't work like that. The Indian state does not buckle in to pressure from the gun. That would be pointless. It simply does not work. You will get enhanced demands pretty soon. The Indian state defeats insurgencies militarily, does not usually crush them (deliberate decision; Punjab might be the rare case) and negotiates from a position of strength to allow for accomodation. That is how India has always handled insurgencies. Negotiating under pressure is suicide for a state, one has to exhaust the strength behind an insurgency before negotiation can take place.

We did in Chittagong and pulled it off.9800 dead (1979-1991, November 30) KIA-5700 Wounded-15,432 Arrested-11,892 and then forced the remaining to a peace accord.Gave them 'special recognition' and they surrendered their arms!
 
Some people need update there Information and should Read about Punjab Education Act :whistle:. Punjabi is T ought in every school in PUNJAB. There are plenty of Schools in Delhi, wherein Punjabi is MUST. :whistle:[/E]



We are talking about origin of Sikh movement/s and its link to linguistic/religious issues NOT talking about IS aka present.

PERIOD.
 
Rather than making your own opinions, I have posted a BBC documentary. Go through that, u'll understand on your own. and u'll get the ans of the bolded part in the video. :) But see it complete, not the first 5 mins.


! :D

dint find it. anyway you can post what it says.

I still question you what autonomous region has to to with Indian secularism?

Madam, I'm Sikhanie who knows about Punjab and her Pichokad. PERIOD.

:)))) achaaaa very unfortunate that you dont know about Sikh movement and its origin based on lingustic and religious issue.
 
We did in Chittagong and pulled it off.9800 dead (1979-1991, November 30) KIA-5700 Wounded-15,432 Arrested-11,892 and then forced the remaining to a peace accord.Gave them 'special recognition' and they surrendered their arms!

Understand what I said. The Indian state applies enough pressure to militarily crush seperatis insurgencies & then almost always refrains from completely destroying it. It allows for former insurgents to then save face & enter the system with their honour intact. Some go on to become CM's even. The state will never negotiate with a militant group before militarily establishing supremacy.
 
dint find it. anyway you can post what it says.

I still question you what autonomous region has to to with Indian secularism?



:)))) achaaaa very unfortunate that you dont know about Sikh movement and its origin based on lingustic and religious issue.

And what else :coffee:


There has been immense public opinion on Operation Bluestar, 1984, and whether it was justified or not. Most of us were not even born back then… However the documentation of the entire episode, the various views and situation under which it was undertaken really doesn't raise questions about its justness… It was undoubtedly harsh, which is true for any homicide case, but this was, like most of them, necessary… important… vital for the country…

June 5 and June 6…the D days…when Indian military… led by General Kuldip Brar… launched attack on the Golden Temple, the holiest shrine of Sikhs, to arrest Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale(Sant is a ridiculous title fot this guy), the only leader who had been boldly fighting for the so-called rights of Sikhs(as if they were really deprived, lets ask Montek Singh or Harbhajan Singh ! )… The Indian Army then went on to perform a so called ‘Barbaric’ massacare… a term last used for General Dyre and his extravaganza in Punjab…

While we are at it.. lets see the plight of the Indian Army here… they are the bunch of bravest people around.. I’ve had the privilege of spendin time with some of them in IMA, Deharadun and in Kota on long and borin journeys towards Mumbai… An average soldier would always prefer peace.. and never certainly killin their own people… “own people” has a verp specific definition here… anyone doin good for India… anyone livin and lettin live… anyone not creatin nuisance… certainly, the people with guns inside a “holy” shrine were by no means “own” people… but there is another side to a soldier’s emotions as well… you shoot and you miss him, he is gonna make sure he gets your *** down on the ground… or bust your forehead with a direct hit… all invitations to the militants hidden in the Golden Temple to surrender peacefully were rejected.. and rejected with gunpowder.. bullets.. missiles.. grenades.. snipers…. If the people inside thought Indian Army was a bunch of kids… they needed some demonstration… Like they say… Indian Army gives you only one chance… The rest is history…

Comin back to the whole episode.. lets cut the crap…

Sant Jarnail Singh and many other political leaders had launched a peaceful march sometime back…peaceful by all means is relative… this peaceful march only had automatic gun manned people for body guards and swords in everyone’s hand… It was almost the length of Akbar’s Army… peaceful..huh… They wanted the Indian government to grant them full rights and treat them as first class citizens…This is way back in 1984… people in 2008 demand only to get classified as backward classes… no one demands an unheaval into General Class… First Class.. this was a new concept… Very obviously.. the Indian Government told them another concept : Shut up… An Anandpur Sahib resolution was brought to attention by Sant Jarnail Singh… which included many demands for Punjab and Sikhs such as:

1. Regional autonomy for Punjab. (The Indian Government was interfering)


It had been a lot of years for the constitution… I think every kid is taught in Civics that India is federal… Even if Indian Govt. is interferin in the internal matters of Punjab.. no one has the right to protest.. consider from India’s point of view : Pakistan, the oldest and strongest friend by the side… and intelligence reports about high-tech laddoos arrivin in Golden Temple… surely, the Indian Army wanted to check them out…

2. Return of Chandigarh to Punjab. (Chandigarh was split as a duel capital for two states)
3. Special status for Sikhs in the Indian union. (Sikhs were called “long haired Hindus” not Sikhs)
4. A Supreme Court review of Punjab river waters, (Punjab’s water was being sent to other states)
5. Return of the Punjabi speaking areas to Punjab, (The government split Punjab into many separate states)
6. Provision of a fare share of electricity to Punjab, (Electricity was being split and not provided fairly to Punjab)
7. Declaring Amritsar a Holy City (Hindu and Buddhists Cities were named “holy cities” but the center of Sikhism was not given such a status)
and some other religious demands.

I dont think anyone needs to comment on the ridiculous nature of these demands… Punjab was gettin its share of electricity.. its a different issue it wasnt enough for them.. so what.. it never is… They had more than enough water for themselves… and the water belongs to India only.. not even Punjab… and everyone was soon to know how holy Amritsar is…

Anyway… so after a lot of indulgin and givin adequate chances to the militants.. and enough opportunities to peace (the detailed overview below indicates everythin)… a lot of bloodshed… all the terrorists/militants/crap people shot.. killed… Human Rights starts blabberin about certain ruthlessness… cmmon guys… you dont expect the Indian Army to do nothin to those people who threw grenades at them… and everyone knows the genuity of Human Right Claims…

The aftereffects of the ‘Operation Blue Star’ were not confined to the Golden Temple… Indian armed forces simultaneously attacked 40 other historical Gurdwaras all over East Punjab… and they found those laddoos everywhere…enough for a lot of Diwalis… enough for a lot of people… enough for plenty of places… When Sikhs in other states came to know about the desecration of the Golden Temple and massacre of their brethren, they quickly left for Punjab…

According to an estimate, about 50,000 Sikhs were killed within a few days… Amritsar city was sealed expectedly… what followed was a natural response… Emotion flows more rapidly in an average Indian than common sense… Of course there is only one way to tackle such situations.. RAF, para-armed etc did what they have been trained for… till…

In November the same year… two dedicated Sikhs named Beant Singh and Satwant Singh who were posted at Premier Indira Gandhi’s residence in New Delhi… assassinated her… Then Hindu riots erupted in the capital and other cities in which more then 15,000 Sikhs were killed in broad daylight by the supporters of Indira Gandhi, while police watched silently so as to provide the Hindus with free hand to massacre Sikhs… The attack on the Golden Temple and genocide of Sikhs only accelerated the liberation movement for Khalistan as Bhindrenwale became a folk hero…

Meanwhile, after ‘Operation Blue Star’ and the Sikh genocide, Sikhs’ struggle for independence continued… but the Indian government made every effort to crush the same with the state machinery… To maintain their control over the Golden Temple, another attack was launched on the Temple in 1987, called ‘Operation Black Thunder’… Afterwards, ‘Operation Woodrose’ and ‘Operation Black Thunder-II’ were conducted… Everytime.. the results were same.. Militants inside… laddoos inside…

All emotions aside.. the single big achievement of these operations was the total curbin of the concept of Khalistan… Pakistan was waitin eagerly for the formation of this state.. it was ready to recognise it, and very obviously capture it… these Sikhs would then have been brutally laid slain… most of them are alive today… there would have been another political issue.. and probably another Kashmir kinda deadlock…

No educated person would be emotionally agitated on readin this… It was a matter concernin India… and they took the correct steps.. and had it not been support from the center.. punjab wouldnt have been claimin prosperity as it often does…

Accept or close the window…

OPERATION BLUESTAR : THE OPERATIONAL LAYOUT AND EXECUTION

“We went inside with humility in our hearts and prayers on our lips.” General K. Sundarji

INTRODUCTION

By mid May 1984 Punjab had been gripped by terror for nearly three years. The Pakistan-backed terrorist movement had acquired monstrous proportions. Not a day went by without massacres of Hindus, Sikhs, migrant workers and those who opposed the terrorists diktats. From Golden Temple, the most sacred symbol of Sikhism and seat of its religious power, hit lists were drawn up and death squads were dispatched under the guidance of the malevolent figure Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale.

The chanting of the gurbani was now drowned by the staccato bursts of gunfire. Prominent Sikh figures were assassinated near the Golden Temple when they went to pray there. Pushed to the wall, the Indian Government under Mrs. Indira Gandhi, gave the signal for the most complex and largest anti-terrorist action in the world.

May 30 to June 2

As the death toll from extremist actions climbed, the Government started holding frequent consultations with the Army. On May 30th, units of the 9th Infantry Division based at Meerut, started moving in on to Amritsar and other important towns of Punjab. Para-Military forces were placed around the Temple. The extremists responded with heavy exchanges of fire lasting for hours. Meanwhile newly fortified positions were coming up all around.

On June 1st, curfew was clamped and troops and para-militaries fanned along the 12,168 villages of Punjab. The Akalis were threatening a food movement agitation, designed to stop the movement of food grains to other states. Last minute attempts to get the moderate Akalis to reach an agreement came to a naught. The state was then put under siege. Lt. Gen. Ranjit Singh Dayal, Chief of Staff Western Command was brought in as security advisor to the Punjab Governor.

Men of the 12th Bihar Regiment fanned to take positions across the roof tops around the Temple complex. Soon they realised that they were vulnerable to grenade attacks from the top of the 18th century towers and water tank. The Biharis moved to sand-bagged windows in vacated houses. Similarly, men from the Garhwal Regiment and The Brigade of The Guards were moved on the other side of the Temple. Tanks fanned out to guard sensitive villages to prevent communal killings.

June 3

By 3 June the whole state had been secured. The Biharis watched the area of the clock tower, the main entrance and Brahm Buta Market, the Garhwalis, the Guardsmen and the Punjabis overlooked the Chowk Parag Dass, Chhati Khui, Atta Mandi, Baba Atal and Buddhi Lutt Bazaar. The aim was to apply psychological pressure to break the extremists resolve. Officers used loud-hailers to ask them to surrender peacefully. The reply was automatic gun fire. The army jawans replied with bursts of automatic fire of their own. The extremists responded with grenade and heavy machine gun fire from the top of water towers.

June 4

By then it was evident that the men in the Temple were no rabble army, but a determined insurgent force fired up with religious fervour. The army decided to deal with them effectively. 106mm jeep-mounted RCLs were brought in to fire at the pillboxes. But the concrete pillboxes proved hard to crack and it was decided that stronger firepower was needed.

A 3.7″ howitzer gun was brought in. This was a risky move, as the gun had to be elevated almost vertically and a miss would mean that the shell would land on the top of houses. Thus the two elevated 18th century Bungas on either side of the langar, and the elevated water tank to the rear of the Teja Singh Samundari Hall were targeted. The firing lasted five minutes, at the end of which the pillboxes were blown to pieces with sandbags and the sniper’s bodies flying apart.

Tough Act

The senior commanders, Maj. Gen. Brar, GOC, 9 Inf. Div.and Lt. Gen. Sundarji,GOC, Western Command,had realised that there was no way to avoid bloodshed. Brar went in and spoke to all the troops. Spending 30 minutes at each location he explained the difficult and terrible mission at hand and clarified that the planned action was not against Sikhs but against terrorists. This was to be a volunteer mission in which any one had the option to refuse to participate.None of the many Sikh officers, JCOs and ORs, opted out. The die was cast for “Operation Bluestar.”

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The operation was to be launched in the following phases:

I – Initial Operations:

1. BSF to secure Hotel Temple View by 9 pm, June 5th.
2. CRPF to secure Brahm Boota Akhara by 10 pm, June 5th.

II – Phase 1

1. 10 Guards to secure Northern Wing of the Temple Complex by 1 am, June 6th.
2. 1 Para-Commandos to:-

Secure a foothold in the Akhal Takht at the earliest and not later than 1 am, June 6th.
Secure a foothold in Harmandir Sahib with divers and neutralise demolitions, if any, by 11:30 pm, June 5th.
3. Special Frontier Force (SFF) to isolate Akhal Takht and secure western flank by 1 am, June 5th.
4. 26 Madras to secure southern and eastern wings by 1 am, June 5th.
5. 9 Kumaon to secure Guru Ram Das Serai and SGPC building by 1 am, June 5th.

III – Phase 2

Mopping up all areas secured in Phase 1

IV – Phase 3

1. 9 Kumaon – extend operations to secure the rest of hostel complex.
2. Units of 10 Guards, SFF and 1 Para Cdo to secure rest of Temple Complex and check prisoners.

Others:

12 Bihar was to continue to cordon of the Temple with CRPF units under its command and provide fire support to any target within its span of observation.

Mechanised Units

Amour : 16 Cavalry

1. Three tanks to enter through the main temple entrance, initially for close protection for 10th Guards but there-after provide support to infantry, paras and SFF with machine gun fire.
2. Three tanks to enter the langar area and provide machine gun fire to 26 Madras.

Mechanised Infantry: 8 Mech Btn

1. 4 BMPs to carry para-commando/divers.
2. 4 BMPs and 3 Skot APCs to support 26 Madras and the Paras.

Reserves : 15 Kumaon – 2 companies as backup for 9th Kumaon and 2 companies for any contingency tasks.

Central Rendezvous and Logistics Control - City Kotwali.

Divisional Tactical HQ – Roof Top outside Temple complex.

H-Hour for operation launch 10 pm, June 5th

One last minute attempt was made to avoid bloodshed. A senior civil administration member and a senior army officer through a public address system asked militants and devotees to come outside. From 4:30 pm to 7:00 pm the attempts continued. Only some 129 devotees many of them very sick were allowed to go. The other hapless ones were held as hostages inside the Temple complex, used as a deterrent to the army action.

At 7:00 pm troops started moving up to take their appointed positions. From the surrounding balconies, people watched the rumble of trucks and tanks, as night fell a darkness of gloom settled in the city. In order to prevent a violent backlash there was a total shutdown of the telecommunication and electric systems. Punjab was virtually cut off from the rest of India.

Initial operations went through as planned with the both the Hotel Temple View and Brahm Boota Akara secured with little resistance. It was however not surprising as they were isolated and only existed to provide early warning of the army’s approach. However the battlements on the top of the clock tower were proving harder to knock out and thus H-hour was postponed by half an hour. At 10:30 pm the first phase of Operation Bluestar commenced.

The Temple Complex

Main Entrance – North Side

At H-hour, the men of 10 Guards, under Lt. Col. Mohammed Israr geared up to maintain their reputation as one of the world’s finest troops. At 10:30 pm, the leading elements of the 10 Guards moved in through the main gate. Immediately they came under heavy and accurate machine gun fire, cleverly sited through wired enclosures on either side of steps. While some troops broke through the trap and reached the ground floor, others cleared the machine gun nests.

For those who made it across the steps, another nightmare awaited. For the couple of minutes they were caught in the open, before taking the cover of the Parikrama,they were fired upon from the Parikrama itself. 20 soldiers were mowed down in the initial assault.

Capt Jasbir Singh Raina, who had three days before done a recce of the temple was severely wounded in the leg by a burst of machine gun fire. This young Sikh officer in tremendous pain refused to be evacuated but was eventually ordered to do so. The troops started inching their way towards the Akal Takht but were fired upon from the southern side.

Meanwhile each room had to be cleared along the Parikrama, many by hand-to-hand combat. Militants would come out and lob a few grenades and rush back in. As troops cleared a room and moved forward they found militants again appearing from the rooms. Unknown to the Army, was an elaborate structure of concealed manholes and underground passages connecting the rooms. Meanwhile a machine gun sited about 12 inches from the ground opened fire. This low siting meant that even the crawling troops were hit.

While this was going on, another group of men were preparing with cool and calm, that comes with being an elite unit. These men clad in black dungarees, with bullet proof vests made last minute checks on their specialised weapons. The Indian Army’s youngest units – the Para Commandos – was about to be blooded. Their objective was to get a foothold in the Akal Takht and a foothold in Harmandir Sahib with the help of divers.

As they slipped in and made a dash across the Parikrama they met a fate similar to the Guardsmen. The Parikrama was exposed to fire from all four sides. Realising their predicament, the Commandos dashed from pillar to pillar trying to cut off the opressing fire. As they reached the Akal Takht their misery was compounded by the devastating machine gun fire from the fortified Akal Takht, as well as the Harmandir Sahib and the area of Darshani Deori-Toshakana. Caught between the Sarovar on one side and the fortified concrete building on the other, the commandos had no option but to inch their way forward by fire and movement.

The Guardsmen were asked to bring down fire on the northern side from whatever portions of the northern side they had secured. Meanwhile the senior officers were barking orders to ensure that under no condition was any fire to be returned on Harimandir Sahib. It is incredible that the orders were obeyed. The commanders were to note later that they never expected the troops to obey such orders. The mission of the divers to slip across the Sarovar was aborted as they would have not survived the murderous fire.

By midnight the Guards had secured the eastern half of the North Wing but the Western side was only 75% secured. Due to the severe casualties suffered by the first two companies, the third company was pressed in. Rather than wait for the complete clearance of the ground floor they were asked to secure a foothold on the first and second floor. This was deemed necessary to provide some sort of fire to the bogged down Para Commandos and the SFF.

One platoon climbed to the first floor using aluminum ladders. They then moved methodically clearing the rooms one by one by lobbing grenades and spraying it with fire. Another platoon likewise moved from the first to the second floor and started clearing the rooms. Troops moving up from the ground floor were suddenly fired upon by militants through an opening in the wall next to the stairs. Some casualties resulted, but the troops quickly wiped them out. By now 145 militants lay dead along with 19 Guardsmen. By 1 am, the Guards had secured their objective and could provide covering fire to the beleaguered commandos.

The commandos were still inching their way to the Akal Takht. This five-storied building was heavily fortified with all windows, balconies and other openings closed with brick masonry and sandbags, with small loop holes through which machine guns were being fired and grenades being lobbed. Together with a double storied building, the Nishan Sahib building and the Darshani Deori, they transformed the quadrangle into an ideal killing field. The leading team of para commandos made a desperate dash for the Darshani Deori. The foothold was needed to launch the CS canisters. Of the 35 men, only 12 made it. The remainder including, team leader Major Prakash Chand Katoch, were cut down. The SFF started with 50 men, had already suffered 17 casualties (3 dead).

With midnight approaching, casualties mounting and the objectives far from being achieved, the situation was desperate.

Serai Entrance – Eastern Side

On the eastern side, the 26 Madras was expected to enter and then sweep the southern side of any resistance. The entry from the southern side was ruled out because of the narrow passage not allowing for entry of any vehicle. But two companies of 9 Garhwal were stealthily brought in, as backup near the Southern entrance. But they had been delayed by a steel gate which was much more formidable then expected. It needed a tank to ram it down.

At H-hour, 26 Madras started to move in but came under a withering fire from atop the Langar, Guru Ram Das Serai, SGPC building, Manji Sahib and Gurdwara Baba Atal Rai. In addition the steel gate was proving difficult to break. 30 metres from the gate they came under fire from medium machine guns from the Deori itself. A section went ahead to lob grenades and clear it, but could not succeed. At this moment a sniper’s bullet hit Lt. R.P. Ropiera killing him. As casualties mounted, the CO – Lt. Col. Panikker, changed his original plan quickly and moved some of his troops in an opening on the south west side. This gave some relief but progress was slow as they had to fight it room by room, like the Guardsmen on the other side.

At 11 pm, with 26 Madras behind schedule, the Garhwalis were asked to move in from the south side and secure a foothold on either side of Atta Mandi. They could then assist 26 Madras by laying down suppressive fire and allow 15 Kumaon to launch an attack on the Akal Takht from the south west. The committing of the reserves was decided based on the fact that the Guards were now more or less in control of the northern side. Garhwalis moved with little difficulty and by 1:30 am had secured the ground and upper floors of the southern gate. The 15 Kumaon, under Lt. Col. N.C. Pant, was in the process of building to launch an attack on the Akal Takht.

At 2 am the overall picture was as follows:

1. The 10th Guards after suffering heavy casualties, had more or less secured the northern wing. Sporadic militant activity from concealed chambers was still a problem.

2. 26 Madras operation had stalled, but was now gaining ground between the eastern and southern wings. However there was still heavy opposition.

3. 2 companies of 9 Garhwal had secured a foothold in the southern gate.

4. 1 Para Cdo and SFF operation had bogged down within reach of the Akal Takht.

Reorganising

At this point Brigadier A.K. Dewan, an armoured corps veteran and Dy GOC of 15 Division had come to see if his troops (9 Garhwal) had reached their location. Brar placed Dewan in charge of 26 Madras, 15 Kumaon and the two companies of 9 Garhwal, and created an ad hoc task force. By 2:30 am, Brigadier Dewan took charge of the Garhwalis and Kumaonis while 26 Madras had still to join up.

Meanwhile Maj. Gen. (retd.) Shahbeg Singh (advisior to Bhinderanwale) realising that the only way to win was to hold of the Indian Army till dawn, poured in an even higher volume of fire. Brar now sought Sundarji’s permission to use tank fire to neutralise the Akal Takht’s concrete defenses. Sundarji watching the proceedings from the Divisional Tactical HQ, agreed and relayed the request to New Delhi. Meanwhile reports started trickling of volatile Sikh masses gathering on the outskirts of Amritsar.

In the meantime, in order to help the SFF and Paras, a tank was brought in and asked to switched on its search light. It was hoped that this would temporarily blind the defenders as well as allow the SFF and Paras locate some of the defences. But unfortunately this move failed as the Xenon lamps filament burned out in a couple of minutes. When this happened, another tank was moved in followed by a third. Thus all 3 tanks were in the Parikrama. At about 4 am, a Skot APC was moved in. Since it is a wheeled vehicle, the tank had to roll back and forth on the steps and crush the marble slabs. Only then could the APC be safely brought in. The APC was supposed to take a squad right up to the Akal Takht.

The Guards were asked to fire a few 84mm Carl Gustaf rocket rounds at the Akhal Takht to precede the arrival of the APC. As the APC was approaching the Akal Takht, it was hit by an RPG-7 anti-tank rocket from the Akal Takht. This came as a complete shock as none had been expected. As the APC squad dismounted and retreated, the driver was shot by a sniper.

By then dawn was approaching and soon the troops in the Parikrama would become sitting ducks. At 5:10 am the clearance to use tanks came from Delhi. The 3 tanks in the Parikrama, were asked to line up their machine guns on the Akhal Takht. Dewan had meanwhile readied for an assault, and the first Madrassis were trickling having cleared the southern wing.

The first assault was led by ‘A’ Company of 15 Kumaon. Led by Major B.K. Mishra, a group of men reached the footsteps of Akal Takht, the first group to make contact. As they climbed the stairs, a machine gun opened up from the inside and all seven men were mowed down. More machine gun fire rained from the base and the buildings on both side and the Kumaonis were thrown back with heavy casualties.

It was clear that the tank machine gun fire was not enough. The Kumaonis fell back to reorganise, having suffered 7 killed and 23 wounded. 2 companies of 26 Madras were now asked to pick up where the Kumaonis left. In the darkness there was confusion as Kumaonis and Madrassis got mixed up. It was realised that the 2 machine guns at the entrance had to be eliminated for any chance to move in on the Akal Takht. A section of troops were asked to volunteer for this dangerous task. The group was led by Lt. Jyoti Kumar Dang and was formed into two sub groups.

One group led by Subedar K.P. Raman Ravi and 4 ORs was to destroy the bunker covering the stairs by hurling pole charges. Another led by the Lt and 4 ORs was to rush the first floor and silence the machine gun there.

As the groups reached the Akal Takht, 8-9 fortified machine guns opened up. Valiantly the two groups moved forward. Subedar Ravi and his men reached the bunker and were about to launch their charges when they were cut down by machine gun fire. Lt. Dang and his men also managed to reach the first floor only to be cut down by machine gun fire. Two of the wounded men managed to crawl back.

Lt. Dang, although wounded, tried to pull the wounded Subedar Ravi with him but had to give up due to the heavy fire. The barbarism of the terrorists now came through. Subedar Ravi was dragged back, attached with sticks of dynamite and blown up in full view of the other troops. In spite of this, discipline still held. 26 Madras had suffered 14 dead and 49 wounded.


It was 7:30 am and daylight was well upon the troops. The temple complex marble was a sea of olive green and red as dead army personnel and terrorists lay sprawled all over. The Temple of God, was a full fledged fortress. With no other option the Generals authorised the tanks to use their 105mm main guns. The high explosive squash rounds smashed into the Akal Takht throwing up flames and masonry. This subdued the machine guns. Except for a few machine gun bursts it was now calm. All troops were asked to stay in the building they had secured and wait till dusk before launching an attack to clear the Akal Tkaht of any remaining militants. In response to reports of angry mobs approaching Amritsar, 15 Infantry Division moved in and sealed of the routes leading to Amritsar. At 11 am a large number of militants rushed out of the Akal Takht on to the Parikrama and fled towards the gates. Most were cut down. Seeing that the troops were not firing on the Harmandir Sahib some of them jumped in the Sarovar and tried to swim towards it. They too were killed. This led to a group of militants emerging from the Akal Takht, waving white flags. Then the Akal Takht suddenly went silent. To the army commanders it was an indication that the top leadership of Bhindranwale, Maj. Gen. (retd.) Shabegh and Amrik Singh had either escaped or had been killed.

The Hostel Complex.

The main buildings of the Hostel Complex were:-

(A) Guru Ram Das Langar – double storied heavily fortified building commanding a view of the side entrances and open area leading to Parikrama.

(B)Guru Ram Das Serai (Akal Takht Rest House) – 3 storied building, 228 rooms and seven halls.

(C)Teja Singh Samundari – the office of SGPC, and was occupied by Longowal, Tohra, Ramoowalia and others.

(D)Guru Nanak Niwas – 4 storied building with fortified roof tops, 85 rooms and one hall.

(E)Other buildinds in the complex were Guru Nanak Niwas, Manji Sahib and Baba Atal Gurdwara.

As mentioned earlier the operations was in the hands of 9 Kumaon. The operation was to commence at 10 pm, with the simultaneous launch of the Paras and SFF. It had three Vijayantas, six BMPs and three Skot APCs to provide machine gun support. In addition they were to break open the gates to help 26 Madras to enter the eastern gate. On schedule, 9 Kumaon moved into the Guru Ram Das Serai. A company was deployed on each of the three floors with the fourth held in reserve. The troops encountered opposition from each of the floors although it was lighter than the Temple complex. At many a place hand to hand combat resulted. The troops secured all corners and stairwells, as the rooms were to be cleared later in mopping operations. By 1:30 a.m. the building was isolated from the rest of the complex. Two companies were left behind to secure it.

The rest of the unit led by Lt. Col. K. Bhaumik moved to clear the Teja Singh Samundari Hall. Now initial briefings had indicated a large number of devotees and Akali leaders in the building. In the dark Bhaumik realised that it would be impossible to separate the militants. He decided to block the exits and ask them to surrender. The building was isolated by 2:30 am and an emissary sent to establish contact with Tohra and Longowal. Both men had initially vowed to defend the Temple to their death but now agreed to surrender. Major H.K. Palta with a few men went into meet the leaders which also included Ramoowalia, Akali Dal secretary Gurcharan Singh, SGPC member Bagga Singh and head of the Akhand Kirtani Jatha, Bibi Amarjit Kaur. The leaders were fearful that they might be targeted and needed protection. As the troops started leading them out a group of 350 devotees rushed out to join them. At this, the terrorists threw hand grenades in the crowd and sniped at them. Total chaos reigned as the Kumaonis tried to control the situations. While Major Palta managed to get Tohra, Longowal and Kaur in an APC, snipers got Gurcharan Singh and Bagga. It was 5 am, when things were under control. About 70 innocent devotees were killed or injured in the indiscriminate fire.

With one company remaining, the Kumaonis tackled the Guru Nanak Niwas. The clearing operations continued. Every now and then devotees would try to escape only to have the militants throw grenades and open fire at them. By morning, the Kumaonis had 600 hundred prisoners and controlling them absorbed manpower. By 10 am, the Hostel Complex was fairly secured by 9 Kumaon. There were terrorists holed up in manholes, tunnels and concealed basements. The only area of resistance continued to be the langar. The militants continued to pour machine gun fire and hurl grenades. The Kumaonis fired back with everything at their disposal. At one point the wheat and kerosene caught fire sending huge columns of smoke. Gas cylinders caught fire and exploded intermittently. This fighting however was a rearguard action allowing some 40 Babbar Khalsa activists to escape. By the early hours of the morning on June 7th, the fighting suddenly died down. Perhaps they had learnt the fate of their leaders in the Akal Takht.

Mopping Operations, 7th – 9th June

At this stage the job of clearing the many rooms, concealed tunnels and basements began. A number of activists were captured and handed over to the Punjab Police and intelligence agencies. Meanwhile other units began cleaning the remains of the battle. The snipers continued to take potshots. When President Zail Singh was visiting the complex a sniper’s round hit his bodyguard Lt. Col. M.P. Choudhary of the SFF in the arm. The sniper was spotted on the terrace and was gunned down.Two companies of 10 Dogra joined 9 Kumaon, in the flushing operations. At this point a burst of gunfire from the area around the bunga wounded four soldiers. While the rest fanned out to search for the militants, Captain Ramphal of the Medical Corps and his nursing assistants were attending to the casualties. Suddenly a group of militants emerged from a concealed tunnel and grabbed Captain Ramphal and 2 soldiers of 10 Dogra. As the alarm was raised, the SFF and 10 Dogra got into position to clear the tunnel. The militants were asked to surrender. Their responses was to ask for the Head Priest Giani Sahib Singh. When he was brought the militants demanded that he be sent in. The scared Head Priest refused to go in and troops got ready to blast their way in. A demolition party crawled up and fixed explosives to the grill at the entrance. When it was blown up the SFF charged in and in the firefight, killed 7 militants inside only to find that the three soldiers had been executed in a inhumane manner. Their limbs had been chopped of.

Search of various areas revealed cash, weapons and survival rations stashed away. Behind the Akhal Takht, a lone militant jumped down and tried to make a getaway. He was caught and his turban fell away to reveal a wad of currency notes. Further interrogation revealed him to be one of many criminal elements who had taken refuge in the Temple complex . He further indicated that many others had dumped valuables in the well behind the building during the course of the fighting. 12 Bihar and the Engineers lowered an anchor in the well. The first attempt pulled up 19 weapons and cash. As Naval divers joined the search it revealed Rs.20 lakhs in cash sealed in trunks, gold and silver biscuits, transmitters and weapons and ammunition. A weapons manufacturing unit was discovered in a room at the top of the Deori with grenades, country pistols and rifles in various stages of manufacture. All this added to the ability to convert the holy Golden Temple into an armed fortress.

The army suffered 83 dead and 248 wounded. A total of 492 terrorists and others were killed and 86 wounded. About 1500 people were captured,which included a number of Pakistanis who had taken shelter there. Thus ended the Indian Army’s toughest operation. However a number of terrorists had fled to the countryside and the army had to launch “Operation Metal” to move around Punjab. These operations were relatively minor.

Sources:

1. Crackdown in Punjab – Operation Bluestar, India Today, 30 June 1984
2. Night Of Blood – Operation Bluestar, India Today, 15 August 1984
3. Operation Bluestar: The True Story by Maj. Gen. Kuldip Singh Brar (retd.)
 
dint find it. anyway you can post what it says.

I still question you what autonomous region has to to with Indian secularism?

Autonomous region is a provision given only to the State of Jammu and Kashmir. This is as per Article 370 of the Indian Constitution. And it is applicable to only that State. All other states are equal and cannot demand for anything more or less. You can request for special economic packages, which provide subsidies and incentives to the said state. You can also request for new administrative regions to be formed. But, there is a provision for it and it has to be as per the Indian Constitution.

Anything beyond this, asking for autonomous control of Central resources is not available to any other state in the Indian Union.
 
Wise decision...not forcing Hindi.....We found Tamaddun Majlis(cultural organization to make Bangla the official language of Pakistan) 15th september 1947 a month into independence!

Urdu or Hindi instead of Bengali is used in our law courts and universities that would be tantamount to political slavery.-Dr Shahidullah.

English is a first language. Hindi is a second language. Third language is the state language. So, the medium of education for me was English, Hindi was a compulsory language throughout. The state language , Marathi in my case, since, I studied in Maharashtra was compulsory for 5 years, if I am not mistaken. Then, I was in a minority school (meaning South Indian run school in Maharashtra) so I opted for Malayalam instead of Marathi main when I got the option. And last 3 years I dropped Malayalam(also had option of Tamil) and took Sanskrit, because it was easier to score than Malayalam :P

So Class 1 to Class 10 - English & Hindi
Class 3 to Class 7 - Marathi minor
Class 5 to Class 7 - Malayalam
Class 8 to Class 10 - Sanskrit

So this left me a complete mess and really burdened during exam times :P
 
English is a first language. Hindi is a second language. Third language is the state language. So, the medium of education for me was English, Hindi was a compulsory language throughout. The state language , Marathi in my case, since, I studied in Maharashtra was compulsory for 5 years, if I am not mistaken. Then, I was in a minority school (meaning South Indian run school in Maharashtra) so I opted for Malayalam instead of Marathi main when I got the option. And last 3 years I dropped Malayalam(also had option of Tamil) and took Sanskrit, because it was easier to score than Malayalam :P

So Class 1 to Class 10 - English & Hindi
Class 3 to Class 7 - Marathi minor
Class 5 to Class 7 - Malayalam
Class 8 to Class 10 - Sanskrit

So this left me a complete mess and really burdened during exam times :P

And it almost killed me just to learn Bengali grammar!You guys should get a PhD from your schools just for attempting all those languages!
 
And it almost killed me just to learn Bengali grammar!You guys should get a PhD from your schools just for attempting all those languages!

yes,most of the indians are bi-linguistic and (mostly) know 3 languages minimum-hindi,english and mother tongue.. for some people hindi and their mother tongue is quite similar..
 
Wise decision...not forcing Hindi.....We found Tamaddun Majlis(cultural organization to make Bangla the official language of Pakistan) 15th september 1947 a month into independence!

Urdu or Hindi instead of Bengali is used in our law courts and universities that would be tantamount to political slavery.-Dr Shahidullah.

Did you see these interviews .... I guess you might have seen, but still posting in case you didn't


 
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dint find it. anyway you can post what it says.

I still question you what autonomous region has to to with Indian secularism?



:)))) achaaaa very unfortunate that you dont know about Sikh movement and its origin based on lingustic and religious issue.

Congress Govt. wanted a secular united India, whereas they were looking for Greater autonomy for Punjab, which ultimately can very well lead to a separate Sikh state, on which no chance could have been taken.

I framed the earlier sentence in a hurry hence it became too short and inappropriate.
 

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