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[Saif al-Arab]

We have many Arabic words in Urdu that even Arabs today do not use.

Words such as takaloof.

We also use arabic word yani which is used as 'clarify'. Also we use the word bus which means 'enough'.

Kitaab (book)
Insaan (human)
Dunya (world)
Sabr (patience)
Shukr (thankful)
Qawm (nation)
Niyat (intention)
Galat (wrong)
Sahih (correct)
Ijazat (permission)
mawt (death)
Haq (right)
ilm (knowledge)
kursi (chair)
kalam (pen)


OMG, actually there too many Arabic words in Urdu that I can even show. It's a pointless exercise. It would be interesting for linguists. We use lots and lots of Arabic words in Urdu.

Arabic is the 4th most spoken language in the world and one of the most influential languages in history and a language that has influenced almost all languages spoken in the Muslim world, so I am not the least surprised about Urdu having a lot of Arabic words. Also Urdu has a lot of Farsi (almost 50% of all Farsi vocabulary derives from Arabic) and Turkish (to this day even after Mustafa Kemal's reforms words of Arabic origin form the largest group of foreign originated words in Turkish). Ottoman Turkish was heavily influenced by Arabic.

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lol sure

Welcome back with your 5th account, I'm sure we'll see more of this BS in the coming weeks. Any ideas on the name of the 6th account?

"approximately 8,000 Arabic loanwords in current use (Rāzi) or about forty percent of an everyday literary vocabulary of 20,000 words (not counting compounds and derivatives)" ARABIC LANGUAGE v. Arabic Elements in Persian John R. Perry

Now go cry elsewhere. This thread is too excellent for butthurt comments crying about a superior language and culture.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

lol sure

Welcome back with your 5th account, I'm sure we'll see more of this BS in the coming weeks. Any ideas on the name of the 6th account?

Is there anything wrong with what he said???

 

[AmirPatriot]

"approximately 8,000 Arabic loanwords in current use (Rāzi) or about forty percent of an everyday literary vocabulary of 20,000 words (not counting compounds and derivatives)" ARABIC LANGUAGE v. Arabic Elements in Persian John R. Perry

There are over 340,000 words in the Persian language, that brings the total at just 2.3%. Everyday vocabulary is just a snippet.

And from your own source lol.

"Thus, a sample from the versified national epic, the Šāh-nāma (completed ca. 400/1010), yields an Arabic vocabulary of only 8.8 percent and a frequency of 2.4 percent (Moïnfar, esp. pp. 61-66)".

And that's the longest poem ever written by any one person.

Now go cry elsewhere.

Tears of joy

a superior language and culture.

See what I mean?

Is there anything wrong with what he said???

Factually incorrect

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Factually incorrect

How so? I would like to hear your concerns.

 

[AmirPatriot]

How so? I would like to hear your concerns.

In the same post I replied to you, I will repeat for clarity

There are over 340,000 ( <-- link) words in the Persian language, that brings the total at just 2.3%. Everyday vocabulary is just a snippet.

And the below from his own Iranicaonline source

"Thus, a sample from the versified national epic, the Šāh-nāma (completed ca. 400/1010), yields an Arabic vocabulary of only 8.8 percent and a frequency of 2.4 percent (Moïnfar, esp. pp. 61-66)".

And that's the longest poem ever written by any one person.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

In the same post I replied to you, I will repeat for clarity

There are over 340,000 ( <-- link) words in the Persian language, that brings the total at just 2.3%. Everyday vocabulary is just a snippet.

And the below from his own Iranicaonline source

"Thus, a sample from the versified national epic, the Šāh-nāma (completed ca. 400/1010), yields an Arabic vocabulary of only 8.8 percent and a frequency of 2.4 percent (Moïnfar, esp. pp. 61-66)".

And that's the longest poem ever written by any one person.

I have a much greater point to make, But I will not. You can fool these Arab cave dwellers, but we as Pakistani know the politics.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Nowhere in your link does it say anything about 340.000 words (LOL).

Are you blind?

As for that poem, the author deliberately tried not to use any Arabic words yet he still failed, lol.

Shahnameh was an about writing an Iranian poem in the Persian language. No nonsense about avoiding loan words.

Arabic is of course a much more important, much more influential and much more spoken language than Farsi. It also influenced Farsi 1000 times more than Farsi influenced Arabic.

You even use an Arabic alphabet.

Do you honestly think I care about your stupid language and culture and how influential your ponies are? I'm just disproving lies (alternative facts?) and countering them with facts.

Pointless to discuss such topics with butthurt Farsis.

Damn bersian rafidis, krowing their saffron, watsink televizon all day.

I have a much greater point to make, But I will not. You can fool these Arab cave dwellers, but we as Pakistani know the politics.

No politics. There are for sure many Arabic loan words in Persian, but not nearly as many as those fantasies that Arab supremacists dream about.

 

[Attila the Hun]

and Turkish (to this day even after Mustafa Kemal's reforms words of Arabic origin form the largest group of foreign originated words in Turkish). Ottoman Turkish was heavily influenced by Arabic

Mustafa Kemal obviously hated Afro-Arab words.

 

[Attila the Hun]

you are trying to downplay the influence of Arabic.

Can you blame him? I hate to see Afro-Arab influences in Turkish too.

There are in fact 2 million Farsi words. Wikipedia, a great source btw.

I cannot post any links (sadly) but now you are lying. That poem occurred as I described it and I have seen tons of Farsis claiming the same. It makes no sense otherwise due to the information in the link that I posted.

Nothing that I wrote or you wrote changes any of the well-known facts by international linguists or the fact that Arabic has influenced Farsi to a very large extent and more than any other foreign language and that the influence the other way around is minimal at best. Your entire language is written using the Arabic alphabet for God's sake and here, as the butthurt that you are, you are trying to downplay the influence of Arabic. As if people are oblivious to the extensive Arabic influence to begin with, lol. It's one of the worst kept secrets.

See the link in post 121. Nothing more to say.



Yes, our Albanian friend must have preferred Mongol and Eskimo vocabulary.

Mustafa Kemal was not Albanian lol.
But, that is still better than Afro-Arab.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Yet millions of your compatriots love it

They are not Turks. lol

Shall I show you some samples?

Yeah, show me . This should be good.

you might descend from one such community) has been significant in Turkey.

No thanks.

He was an off-spring of an Albanian and an African slave brought to Turkey by Arabs.

Do you have a source for this? And who was Albanian, his mother or father?

That is why he could not have any children and was quite possibly homosexual.

Not being able to have children makes you a homosexual now?

Poor Afro-Turks.

Europeans hate you Arabs more. And Turks do not like Europeans at all. Where do you get this nonsense from?

 

[AmirPatriot]

I cannot post any links (sadly) but now you are lying.

How am I lying? You think one of the greatest poets in history, one who wrote the longest poem ever by one person couldn't find Persian alternatives to just 2.4% of the content of his epic, which he worked on for over 3 decades?

the fact that Arabic has influenced Farsi to a very large extent and more than any other foreign language and that the influence the other way around is minimal at best

Facts I didn't dispute, sunshine. For sure Arabic has influenced Persian more than any other language, to the tune of 2.3% loanwords used in Persian. Those are the facts and I don't dispute them or change the subject to distract from them, that is your job.

Your entire language is written using the Arabic alphabet for God's sake

First of all, that is again changing the subject, second that's still wrong, we have 4 more letters, and it is based on the Arabic alphabet, but they are not exactly the same.

Arabic:

Persian:

And again, I don't really care. I don't use the standard Perso-Arabic script, which I find ugly. I prefer the nastaligh derivative.

Most people write in this format or some variation of it, though children are taught in the basic Perso-Arabic script because it is easier to write. In the school I went to, we had a handwriting class where we wrote in nastaligh.

 

[Attila the Hun]

The great Erdogan is pro-Arab. Even his wife is an Arab.

Who cares if his wife is an Arab? Many Arabs live in Turkey. A lot of them like to listen to Arab Music. Where are you going with this?

A long life to our Georgian Sultan! Long live Erdogan.

Erdogan is also pro-Israel. lol

 

[AmirPatriot]

Where are you going with this?

He is an Arab supremacist, where do you think he's going with it?

 

[AmirPatriot]

The butthurt is hilarious.

You sure got me Yes, I do hate liers I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Attila the Hun]

He is an Arab supremacist, where do you think he's going with it?

He makes me laugh to be honest. Out to prove the greatness of Arabs. Which is all fine, but, he likes to talk down on non-Arabs. He needs a taste of his own medicine.