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One killed, 24 injured in Kashmir violence

Overestimating Pakistan much. lol.

Good, 65 years further, the Pakistani's then would be saying the same things and still whining over what they could never get.

We talk less & do more unlike indians who since 2000's claiming to be a SUPA PAWA.:lol: Even Chinese don't claim themselves as one.
 
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Just paying back for those years now! Long way to go!


They would care because there would be a far higher number of those not getting meals if Kashmir is allowed to secede. Growing prosperity is dependent on growing security. India has both.

We will see if the bone extends that long.

I guess it is easy for you to say this my friend because you are probably fortunate enough to do so on a full stomach but for those who are worried about feeding their children while themselves on an empty stomach they will probably be hard pressed to agree.
 
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Be my guest but before doing that please do consider how much of them are as influential as Sheikh Abdullah and are pro-Independence rather than pro-Pakistani....

your country won't give a sh*t if these so called Freedom Fighters actually demands Freedom and rejects Pakistan as an option

Do you even know Pakistan's official stance? It is giving the right of self determination to Kashmiris, whatever they decides.
 
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Do you even know Pakistan's official stance? It is giving the right of self determination to Kashmiris, whatever they decides.

Dil Khush Kar Diya tunneiii meraa ! :cray:

May my Cow ( @ZYXW ) be sacrificed in your Honor ! :kiss3:

We choose the Playboy Republic of Buttistan ! :smokin:
 
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After seeing what's been going on in Pakistan since independence from Kashmir to Bangladesh to radicalization to terrorism now I find it hard to believe that Allah is on your side.

Entire land west of Indus in Pakistan is in turmoil but they still get the time to bother about Kashmir. :laughcry:
 
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Nah that is because you do not really know me. Those who do know that I am a natural leader I never ask people to follow my lead it just happens. Anyway just wait 15-20 years if I am still alive you will here my name coming for POTUS.

I am kidding loser :P

But there are two types of leaders. One is those that are very hard-headed ad stand in the front and take the lead and don't take sht from ppl. The other is the type that don't take the lead unless they have to but bring everyone together and would even stay at the back to make sure no one gets left behind. You are the first kind from the lil bit that I can tell.... :P
 
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Entire land west of Indus in Pakistan is in turmoil but they still get the time to bother about Kashmir. :laughcry:

Bhai ke bareii mein aisaa kaheiii gaa ! :cray:

I am kidding loser :P

But there are two types of leaders. One is those that are very hard-headed ad stand in the front and take the lead and don't take sht from ppl. The other is the type that don't take the lead unless they have to but bring everyone together and would even stay at the back to make sure no one gets left behind. You are the first kind from the lil bit that I can tell.... :P

What type of Leader would I be (no seriously tell me) !
 
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We talk less & do more unlike indians who since 2000's claiming to be a SUPA PAWA.:lol: Even Chinese don't claim themselves as one.

Pakistan's official stance says people of P0K don't have right to self determination. Pakistan's official stance is to grab Kashmir's rivers.
 
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Dil Khush Kar Diya tunneiii meraa ! :cray:

May my Cow ( @ZYXW ) be sacrificed in your Honor ! :kiss3:

We choose the Playboy Republic of Buttistan ! :smokin:

And you'd obviously pick pakistan if the option is given uncle...
You are such a traitor that sometimes it makes me cry :cray:
 
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We will see if the bone extends that long.

I guess it is easy for you to say this my friend because you are probably fortunate enough to do so on a full stomach but for those who are worried about feeding their children while themselves on an empty stomach they will probably be hard pressed to agree.

If you really are interested in a more intelligent discussion, then you would know that India's defence budget is not either/or.
The spend on defence/security is probably the lowest in South Asia barring Bangladesh. Certainly far lower than Pakistan or China.

Yet as a percentage of GDP, India spends more on poverty alleviation and education than Pakistan. There is a reason why India is pushing people out of poverty every year and it is because of the spending.

Now if your question is that why should India spend on defence instead of more of poverty alleviation, then you are talking to the wrong country. The only country you should be talking to is Pakistan. India is already on its way in reducing hunger and malnutrition. It however takes time. A decade from now, India's hunger and poverty levels would be far lower than Pakistan.

These are the things we talk about in our country - the Govt is trying to push through an unprecedented Food Security Bill that guarentees food as a right to 65% of India's population. Do you see Pakistan or some other 'stan' doing anything similar ?
 
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Someone ask Sir Jinnah(R.A) do you think in next 50 years Pakistan will become strongly united nation, & Sir Jinnah (R.A) replied no it will take 100 years. Current signs are we are heading towards that prediction.

OK if you say so!!!
 
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@Contrarian

Apologies then.

Apology accepted. :smart:


I agree. You are correct. India must do more to settle the Kashmir issue.

That's what I'm saying. For how long are we going to wait and see more Indians and Pakistanis dying? How much of a hostility you guys are you going to make with one another? Both states are armed with nuclear weapons to the teeth, and the very least thing a decent human being would see is a nuclear war between you folks, neither the United Nations would allow such thing to happen or KSA.

Saudi Arabia took a major role in restraining both of you during the Karjail war, as well as the 2008 military standoff.

India and Pakistan must act pragmaticly to settle this issue. We don't tolerate any terror groups, be it Islamic, Crusade, Hindu or whatever. We have seen a lot of terror in my home land AGAINST SAUDI CIVILANS, therefore, we can't stand terrorists overseas or within our land.

Just yesterday, we arrested two terrorists in Riyadh who were plotting to blow up a couple of facilities. Terrorism knows no color or taste, religion or race.

But in this particular case, like many others, the 'innocent people' are in fact hired protestors who throw stones at cops!

I'm not ready yet to evaluate this case, but I would assume it wouldn't be different from what we have seen over the years.

Some Pakistani's seem to think that running with their tail behind their legs to the OIC would make life easier for them. I said what I did in response to those comments.


Just like any other organization on the plant, the OIC wouldn't wage a war against Ethiopia or India or whatever country.

What's more harmful to India is the public opinion about India's stand on the conflict, such negative opinion would limit the Indio-Islamic world relations.

Another issue is that the OIC does have an influence on world stage including the international secuirty council, in the past, we had seen how the world reacts to such incidents as these. It is not a demonization of Indians or India but a negative opinion on India will also limit its transitional raise to power globally. We had seen how China reacted to India's proposal to join the UN as a permenant member - same is applied on Japan by China, Germany by France and Russia -

India shares good relations with KSA and those seem to be warming even further with KSA deporting two terrorists to India

Our relations with India is based on mutual respect. We have signed a defence agreement with India which mainly include counterterrorism cooperation, and extradition treaty. Saudi Arabia is known for its commitments to treaties, therefore, KSA was obligated to fulfill the agreements terms and conditions, including deporting terrorists, and keeping an open channel to help out both India and Pakistan.

KSA had also helped India during natural disasters via the UN, which means that we aren't anti-India by nature.
 
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Bhai ke bareii mein aisaa kaheiii gaa ! :cray:



What type of Leader would I be (no seriously tell me) !

From what I can tell...the lil bit...you are not one of those people interested in being a leader or taking the lead. But the fact that you care so much about th epakistani PEOPLE might someday put you in a position when you have to. You are the second kind in the making I feel. Like your goal is just to improve Pakistan but you want nothing to do with power....you feel me? Yu're kind of like @Hyperion in that sense I guess. Hypey is like a mixture of both of those and the only one I have met that is a mixture of both. He has the powerful backing and stubborness to be the first kind, where things will be exactly how he watnts them if he is incharge n no one can say a word, but he has a very humane touch to him which makes him the second kind, where he truly cares about nothing but the people n country n that is the only reason he would ever join politics, not for the positions and titles.. he would choose happiness n a politics free life anyday, which is like you. You get me? I could be completely wrong but from the lil bit that i can tell this is what i feel.
 
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