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Interesting, Pakistanis worrying about presence of Israel????? Heck...:pakistan:.
What for?????
What Israel has to do with Pakistan or vise-versa??? it seems that Israelis have stolen underwear of Pakis from cloth-lines..
Lot of Pakis planning how to delete Israel... number of action plans. lot of strategies, ideas, methods being floated around.
People taking serious note of everything..
Questions... answers...
bottom-line is how to kill or how someone will survive!
There must be something batter to ponder upon...........
.............:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:...........
Why not develop yourself more than Israel?
 
Interesting, Pakistanis worrying about presence of Israel????? Heck...:pakistan:.
What for?????
What Israel has to do with Pakistan or vise-versa??? it seems that Israelis have stolen underwear of Pakis from cloth-lines..
Lot of Pakis planning how to delete Israel... number of action plans. lot of strategies, ideas, methods being floated around.
People taking serious note of everything..
Questions... answers...
bottom-line is how to kill or how someone will survive!
There must be something batter to ponder upon...........
.............:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:...........
Why not develop yourself more than Israel?

They are killing muslims in Palestine, we are muslims

thats our connection


why are the Hindus involved or butt hurt
 
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Muslims protected Hindus in India - how? by aligning themselves with the british and joining their army and opposing independence?

I am talking about the basic tenet of Islam that is intolerent towards everything else other than Islam.

First Bin Quasim came over and Protected Hindus.
Than Mahmud Gaznavi, he also protected a lot,
Than Muhammad Ghouri came for protection.
Than came Timur he also protected,
Khilji... Abdali...Tuglak..
Aurangzeb... Nadir Shah..
Everyone protected very well.........

They are killing muslims in Palestine, we are muslims

thats our connection


why are the Hindus involved or butt hurt

ISIS is also killing Muslims..... so the taliban..
 
Man LOOK AT REALITY. They ment what they dreamt off. Their dream of GREATER Israel is coming true. They have already dismantled many Arab states and some are left. Looks like we have endless supply of idiots and blinds over here who doenst want to accept reality.

I would welcome your comments on the first post in this thread
 
They are killing muslims in Palestine, we are muslims
thats our connection
why are the Hindus involved or butt hurt

This plain stupid!! Its a humanitarian issue worsened and painted as Islamic issue by bunch of opportunist. People of Palestine are playing mere puppets in hand of HAMAS and IDF.
  • It's not Israel but the tactics and cowardliness of HAMAS killing innocents in Gaza.
  • This have been trying same thing for decades with no outcome but whole world call them TERRORISTS
  • If they are brave and true soldier why do they fire rockets on civilians in Israel?
  • If they are brave and true soldiers why don't they stop hiding behind innocent Palestinians?
  • If they are brave and true soldiers why don't they start open attack on Israel and stand in front of Palestinians and become real martyrs
In fact they are doing what a terrorist does. They might think they are doing it for good cause. They lack direction and vision.

Just for once why can’t People of Palestine think and project this as humanitarian issue to free and end suffering innocent civilians than a religious fight to eliminate Israel from face of earth.

They must change tactics to corner Israel at world stage and humiliate them. If they does that whole world would be standing beside them.

With HAMAS (with current tactics) they are prepare a dark and gloomy future for their kids.
 
Interesting, Pakistanis worrying about presence of Israel????? Heck...:pakistan:.
What for?????
What Israel has to do with Pakistan or vise-versa??? it seems that Israelis have stolen underwear of Pakis from cloth-lines..
Lot of Pakis planning how to delete Israel... number of action plans. lot of strategies, ideas, methods being floated around.
People taking serious note of everything..
Questions... answers...
bottom-line is how to kill or how someone will survive!
There must be something batter to ponder upon...........
.............:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:...........
Why not develop yourself more than Israel?


I repeat; this conflict is not between Pakistan & Israel. Neither is this conflict between Jews & Muslims. This is essentially between Zionists & Arabs.

The root cause of the current conflict is the Israeli blockade of Gaza. Are you aware that Israeli blockade of the Gaza strip by land, sea & air goes back to 2007! Egyptian gov’t was also a party to this blockade; Egypt partially lifted the blockade by opening Rafah crossing in 2011. However Israeli blockade which covers 80% of the Gaza border remains in force. Israelis maintain that the blockade in necessary to stop Iranian weapons getting to Hamas.

This blockade has also been criticized by the UN Secretary General among others and its legality is questionable. I am against actions of the Israeli state because the response is far in excess of the “Reasonable Force”. It is like I shoot an arrow at you and you respond by a barrage of 155 shells.

My support of the Palestinian Arabs ( both Muslim & Christian) is purely on humanitarian grounds. 7 years under siege is too much for anyone. In my humble opinion, anyone with compassion and a little milk of human kindness cannot justify Israeli actions. That is why you see pro-Palestinian rallies in major European cities.
 
This blockade has also been criticized by the UN Secretary General among others and its legality is questionable. I am against actions of the Israeli state because the response is far in excess of the “Reasonable Force”. It is like I shoot an arrow at you and you respond by a barrage of 155 shells.

Both sides are fighting to the best of their abilities. Shooting an arrow is just as much as act of war as anything else.
 
Only one way. United Muslim Army to fight against European countries. :sniper:
Unfortunately these are only dreams rather than reality? If for soem reason it does actually happens what wil be fighting off? We cant even design a gun. It is about time to live in reality. We are 1 billion or so, but quality wise almost 0.
 
I repeat; this conflict is not between Pakistan & Israel. Neither is this conflict between Jews & Muslims. This is essentially between Zionists & Arabs.

The root cause of the current conflict is the Israeli blockade of Gaza. Are you aware that Israeli blockade of the Gaza strip by land, sea & air goes back to 2007! Egyptian gov’t was also a party to this blockade; Egypt partially lifted the blockade by opening Rafah crossing in 2011. However Israeli blockade which covers 80% of the Gaza border remains in force. Israelis maintain that the blockade in necessary to stop Iranian weapons getting to Hamas.

This blockade has also been criticized by the UN Secretary General among others and its legality is questionable. I am against actions of the Israeli state because the response is far in excess of the “Reasonable Force”. It is like I shoot an arrow at you and you respond by a barrage of 155 shells.

My support of the Palestinian Arabs ( both Muslim & Christian) is purely on humanitarian grounds. 7 years under siege is too much for anyone. In my humble opinion, anyone with compassion and a little milk of human kindness cannot justify Israeli actions. That is why you see pro-Palestinian rallies in major European cities.

Intent is everything. Capabilities can be built. If my enemy throws even a rock at me with an intent to harm me, its prudent on my part to go after him with all I have. who knows what he will do next. So the concept of disproportionate is flawed by nature.
 
Unfortunately these are only dreams rather than reality? If for soem reason it does actually happens what wil be fighting off? We cant even design a gun. It is about time to live in reality. We are 1 billion or so, but quality wise almost 0.


You are very true, but it is wrong that Pakistan cannot even design a gun, even our students at bachelor levels have designed such things which are most advanced and better than other countries. But the problem is recognition and support to our young youth. The time is not very far, when these old leaders will be stepped over by youth. Reality is that we Pakistani's can do any thing and we are the most talented.
 
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Unfortunately these are only dreams rather than reality? If for soem reason it does actually happens what wil be fighting off? We cant even design a gun. It is about time to live in reality. We are 1 billion or so, but quality wise almost 0.

Well! you being a commando can perhaps develop a gun out of available materials as we see in film. Read the first post of this thread, further develop the theory and lead the way !!!

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Well! you being a commando can perhaps develop a gun out of available materials as we see in film. Read the first post of this thread, further develop the theory and lead the way !!!

A commando can always buy a gun or get it from the enemy LOL
 
There is no hope,tech genius. There never was-
All we seek is now Allah's help,the most beneficent and merciful. Our souls are cursed with sins and we are worse transgressors of this decade, yet still we aren't realizing this tragedy and are continuously accusing each other of non sense.
Hence,we are lost in the labyrinth of desultory-in haphazardous streets of narrow endings while these Minotaurs are tearing us into flesh and bones.We are paying price for lavishly wasting wealth against each other .
What an irony these freedom fighters are called as militants while Israel's state sponsored terrorism-a systematic genocide and Palestinian massacre is ignored.
My condolences for all those souls who are suffering of this torment and paying price of our sins.
Regards
I agree with you on most parts of your post, but what sins? Are all the muslims sinners in your opinion? I do not think that any true Muslim will think like that. True Muslims are far away from sins.
 
My points were simply these:

1. There wasn't any organised militancy against settlers Jews - only sporadic attacks. In the 1936 Arab revolution, the main targets were British.

2. This is debatable whether there could be an Israel had the Arabs not allied with the British. Alternative history can have many alternative scenarios.

3. As you have said, Israel pre-empted in 1967. She was the first to attack the opponents.

4. During the 1956 war, Israel had captured all the Sinai peninsula, it was only after severe pressure from President Roosevelt that they gave it back to Egypt. They were very resentful of that. In the whole history of Israel, other than Roosevelt and JFK, no other president has dared to take an Anti-Israeli position.

5. Israel is not a small, peace-loving nation. It has sinister designs about the whole region. On the eve of Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 an article was published in World Zionist Organizations' periodical Kivunim. It was titled, 'A strategy for Israel in the 1980s'. It was written by a former senior foreign ministry official of Israel - Oded Yinon. I am just copying from an article some of the details:

[The Yinon plan] is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.

Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses.

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The Atlantic, in 2008, and the U.S. military’s Armed Forces Journal, in 2006, both published widely circulated maps that closely followed the outline of the Yinon Plan. Aside from a divided Iraq, which the Biden Plan also calls for, the Yinon Plan calls for a divided Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria. The partitioning of Iran, Turkey, Somalia, and Pakistan also all fall into line with these views. The Yinon Plan also calls for dissolution in North Africa and forecasts it as starting from Egypt and then spilling over into Sudan, Libya, and the rest of the region.

The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel’s satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation… This is not a new idea, nor does it surface for the first time in Zionist strategic thinking. Indeed, fragmenting all Arab states into smaller units has been a recurrent theme.

For me the best solution will be to gather all the Israelis and Palestinians (resident + In exile) and on the basis of their demographic strength, give the relevant percentage of land - with Jerusalem being a neutral area protected by International forces from all three faiths.
Correction please:
4) The Sinai peninsula was captured by Israel in 1967 not in 1956 which was the Suez war against Brits French and Usrael. And was liberated in 1973 war.

11 years old story. :yawn:
They are still improving their skills now a days
 
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