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The government is planning to allow India transit for trade with third countries through Chittagong and Mongla seaports despite opposition from different ministries and avoiding due official procedures, according to officials in different ministries.

Prime minister Sheikh Hasina’s economic affairs adviser Mashiur Rahman and international affairs adviser Gowher Rizvi are steering the move from Bangladesh side after India expressed its intent to sign a new agreement to use Chittagong and Mongla seaports for its trade with other countries, said a senior government official.

Rizvi told reporters on Saturday that the two countries did not require a new agreement for allowing India transit through Bangladesh. He advised reporters not to be ‘myopic’ when they were asking questions over use of seaports by India.

Mashiur Rahman made identical statement to reporters after a meeting with Indian national security adviser Shiv Shankar Menon on Monday. Menon was in Dhaka for making preparations for Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh’s scheduled two-day official visit starting September 6.

The two sides only require to formally agree on operational modalities by signing protocols and memorandums of understanding to implement the existing trade agreements signed in 1972 and 1980, the advisers said.

But a section of senior officers at the Prime Minister’s Office and the commerce and shipping ministries believe that the advisers are giving a misinterpretation of the agreements and protocols signed between the two countries as several ministries differ with them on the issue of allowing India transit for trade with third countries through Chittagong and Mongla ports.

‘In no way, we can allow third country trade under the existing agreements,’ a commerce ministry official said referring to the agreements signed in 1972 and 1980.

Article V of the trade agreement signed on March 28, 1972, provided for ‘mutually beneficial arrangements for the use of their waterways, railways and roadways for commerce between the two countries and for passage of goods between two places in one country through the territory of the other.’

On November 1, 1972, a protocol on inland water transit and trade was signed to identify two river routes in accordance with Article V of the trade agreement of 1972 for a term of five years. The protocol provided for a uniform documentation for vessels, arrangements for settlement, clearance and remittance, uniform toll charges of vessels, etc.

On October 4, 1980, a new trade agreement was signed between the two sides. Article VIII of the accord agreed ‘to make mutually beneficial arrangements for the use of their waterways, roadways and railways for commerce between the two countries and for passage of goods between two places in one country through the territory of the other’. In pursuance of Article VIII of the agreement, a protocol on inland water transit and trade was signed on November 8, 1983, identifying two additional routes.

The treaty allows India to carry goods only between its two places through Bangladesh territory, the commerce ministry official said.

Prime minister Sheikh Hasina agreed during her 2010 visit to India that ‘Bangladesh will allow use of Mongla and Chittagong seaports for movement of goods to and from India through road and rail, according to the joint communiqué issued on the visit on January 12, 2010.

The government would require to follow due procedure for signing a new agreement to comply with the provision of the joint communiqué, the official said.

The advisers were trying to use the shipping ministry for signing a new agreement to allow India transit for trade with third countries through Chittagong and Mongla ports violating the Rules of Business, a government official said.

The commerce ministry is in fact responsible for dealing issues of signing agreement on allowing a foreign country transit for trade through Bangladesh territory, the official said.

The advisers are now trying to persuade the commerce ministry to agree to a transit accord, said the official.

The advisers seem to be determined to make a deal any way, officials in different ministries said.

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this is not possible to stop ,so keep whining

Of course it is. BNP will cancel all agreements. As simple as that.

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I agree with PM's adviser Gowher that no new agreement is necessary. Makes it easier to cancel the the transit deal later on.
 
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Of course it is. BNP will cancel all agreements. As simple as that.\

This will lead to souring of relations b/n the 2 countries, eventhough the new Govt can negotiate for better terms and conditions.

Anyways if Bangladeshis are so opposed to the deal, let them come to the streets and protest before it is signed. No Govt can overlook public sentiments.
 
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Of course it is. BNP will cancel all agreements. As simple as that.

---------- Post added at 08:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:17 PM ----------

I agree with PM's adviser Gowher that no new agreement is necessary. Makes it easier to cancel the the transit deal later on.

BNP will be able do no such thing. As per the last time they were in power, they usually ate up the people's money and sat in their chairs doing nothing:frown:. They are as useless as BAL, the only difference is that they dont sell out the country
 
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Here we go, more "unnamed officials". Why not just come out in the open and talk against the deal in the open? To the media?

All deals will be made public: Gowher | Business | biz.bdnews24.com

Dhaka, Aug 27 (bdnews24.com)—Manmohan Singh's upcoming Dhaka visit will be a 'really memorable' one, prime minister Sheikh Hasina's international affairs advisor has said, asking critics to 'be far-sighted instead of being myopic''.

Gowher Rizvi said the Indian prime minister's visit with five neighbouring chief ministers, for the first time, would put an end to long disputed issues including border, and Teesta river water sharing, paving the way for transit of Indian goods through Bangladeshterritory, The extension of transit facilities to India will see 'Bangladesh's economy growing by another 4 to 6 percent', he said.

Replying to journalists' questions at the Diplomatic Correspondents Association of Bangladesh (DCAB)'s Iftar party in the capital on Saturday, nine days ahead of the Indian premier's visit, the advisor termed the visit a 'comprehensive' one. Manmohan will come to Dhaka on Sep 6 on a two-day visit, accompanied by his wife Gursharan Kaur and chief ministers of West Bengal Mamata Banerjee, Meghalaya's Mukul Sangma, Tripura's Manik Sarkar, Assam's Tarun Gogoi and Mizoram's Lal Thanhawla.

Gowher briefly described the issues on the agenda during the high-profile visit, but elaborated on the much-talked about transit issue. The internationally renowned political scientist termed prime minister Sheikh Hasina's Jan 2010 visit to India a 'defining moment' in Bangladesh-India relationship. Hasina had invited Manmohan during the visit.

Referring to those who oppose transit, Rizvi said they are doing 'misguided' publicity. "There is no need for a fresh agreement on transit since it has been in the 1974 Indira-Mujib treaty. We need to work out the modalities and operational details of the (transit) routes." An expert on South Asia affairs, he explained there was transit among Bangladesh (then East Pakistan), India and Pakistan from 1947 to 1965, which collapsed during the India-Pak war in 1965.

But, it was in 1974 Indira-Mujib treaty, there were provisions of using river, road, rail and air routes. It did not happen after Aug 15, 1975 assassination of Bangabndhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman as there was no political will between the two countries after the changeover. Prime minister Hasina expressed her desire to resume it during her visit.

He said the transit activities will start once infra-structure is 'ready'. "First it starts with river route, then rail and road." The advisor dismissed speculations that Bangladesh will not gain from the transit facility and said, "We must profit from the transit fee we set."All estimates show there is a profit." "But transit fee is a very small part of our gain. Our benefits will be in trade, investment and employment generation in the country." "


He said Bangladesh's trade with India increased 33 percent in the last 12 months, only because of good relations. "We collected reviews from experts who studied good transit practices in the world and submitted a report to the government.

"The government will review the report and set the best rate for Bangladesh, India, Nepal and Bhutan." He insisted Bangladesh will determine the fee. "But, (it) must be set considering market competitiveness." "If we charge a prohibitive amount that will discourage transit access, then our infrastructure development will go in vain."

The advisor, however, could not specify how much profits Bangladesh can make out of transit. But he said the government would be able to recover infrastructure development costs within seven to 15 years. Replying a question, he said, Bangladesh would be able to use India's transit to trade with Nepal and Bhutan.

Advisor Gowher said they had closely monitored the joint communiqués signed during the Delhi visit in the last 20 months. "There will be a review on what we've achieved so far. But we will not stop here. We will take it forward."

The advisor said there would be no hiding any agreement or memorandum of understanding. "Everything will be made public," he said and added those "who say we are making 'secret' deals are propagating misinformation to confuse people".

Replying a question, the advisor said, "No sane person should say Bangladesh will give corridor to India." "They (who say this) don't know the meaning of the word (corridor)," he said, "corridor means giving away the sovereignty of the area".

"We are an independent and confident nation," he asserted. "We are negotiating from a position of strength. There will be no agreement sacrificing national interest."


So listen to what your internationally renowned political scientists have to say and stop being so myopic:lol:
 
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The advisor, however, could not specify how much profits Bangladesh can make out of transit. But he said the government would be able to recover infrastructure development costs within seven to 15 years.

ARE YOU F!@K#$G KIDDIN MEH?!!! INVEST TEH F!@K#$G MONEY IN TEH POWER SECTOR BEFORE THE WHOLE COUNTRY GOES F!@K#$G DARK. :D
 
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ARE YOU F!@K#$G KIDDIN MEH?!!! INVEST TEH F!@K#$G MONEY IN TEH POWER SECTOR BEFORE THE WHOLE COUNTRY GOES F!@K#$G DARK. :D

India is providing the loan for improving rail and water transport infrastructure, which is what will be used for transit initially.
 
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India is providing the loan for improving rail and water transport infrastructure, which is what will be used for transit initially.

Dude! The loan is $1 Billion. Gov estimates it needs $7 billion for transit infrastructure. Singh's pet Rizvi himself mentioned that some days ago.


PS: Loan != Aid. Just so you know. Now don't get us started on another round of "why loan sucks" talk.
 
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Dude! The loan is $1 Billion. Gov estimates it needs $7 billion for transit infrastructure. Singh's pet Rizvi himself mentioned that some days ago.

That $7 Billion figure involves the cost for road transport infrastructure like highways and bridges. As Mr Gowher mentioned rail and waterways will be used initially.
 
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Dude! The loan is $1 Billion. Gov estimates it needs $7 billion for transit infrastructure. Singh's pet Rizvi himself mentioned that some days ago.


PS: Loan != Aid. Just so you know. Now don't get us started on another round of "why loan sucks" talk.

Dude ! Few days back this Rizvi was a coveted citizen in bangladesh and overnight is termed as Singh's puppet. It is because of people like you that Bangladeshis are never taken seriously in any international fora.....

ps. Just for a change, plz mention the name of the unnamed official whom you will quote otherwise don't post that crap.
 
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The government is planning to allow India transit for trade with third countries through Chittagong and Mongla seaports despite opposition from different ministries and avoiding due official procedures, according to officials in different ministries.

Prime minister Sheikh Hasina’s economic affairs adviser Mashiur Rahman and international affairs adviser Gowher Rizvi are steering the move from Bangladesh side after India expressed its intent to sign a new agreement to use Chittagong and Mongla seaports for its trade with other countries, said a senior government official.Rizvi told reporters on Saturday that the two countries did not require a new agreement for allowing India transit through Bangladesh. He advised reporters not to be ‘myopic’ when they were asking questions over use of seaports by India.

Mashiur Rahman made identical statement to reporters after a meeting with Indian national security adviser Shiv Shankar Menon on Monday. Menon was in Dhaka for making preparations for Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh’s scheduled two-day official visit starting September 6.

The two sides only require to formally agree on operational modalities by signing protocols and memorandums of understanding to implement the existing trade agreements signed in 1972 and 1980, the advisers said.

But a section of senior officers at the Prime Minister’s Office and the commerce and shipping ministries believe that the advisers are giving a misinterpretation of the agreements and protocols signed between the two countries as several ministries differ with them on the issue of allowing India transit for trade with third countries through Chittagong and Mongla ports.

‘In no way, we can allow third country trade under the existing agreements,’ a commerce ministry official said referring to the agreements signed in 1972 and 1980.

Article V of the trade agreement signed on March 28, 1972, provided for ‘mutually beneficial arrangements for the use of their waterways, railways and roadways for commerce between the two countries and for passage of goods between two places in one country through the territory of the other.’

On November 1, 1972, a protocol on inland water transit and trade was signed to identify two river routes in accordance with Article V of the trade agreement of 1972 for a term of five years. The protocol provided for a uniform documentation for vessels, arrangements for settlement, clearance and remittance, uniform toll charges of vessels, etc.

On October 4, 1980, a new trade agreement was signed between the two sides. Article VIII of the accord agreed ‘to make mutually beneficial arrangements for the use of their waterways, roadways and railways for commerce between the two countries and for passage of goods between two places in one country through the territory of the other’. In pursuance of Article VIII of the agreement, a protocol on inland water transit and trade was signed on November 8, 1983, identifying two additional routes.

The treaty allows India to carry goods only between its two places through Bangladesh territory, the commerce ministry official said.

Prime minister Sheikh Hasina agreed during her 2010 visit to India that ‘Bangladesh will allow use of Mongla and Chittagong seaports for movement of goods to and from India through road and rail, according to the joint communiqué issued on the visit on January 12, 2010.

The government would require to follow due procedure for signing a new agreement to comply with the provision of the joint communiqué, the official said.

The advisers were trying to use the shipping ministry for signing a new agreement to allow India transit for trade with third countries through Chittagong and Mongla ports violating the Rules of Business, a government official said.

The commerce ministry is in fact responsible for dealing issues of signing agreement on allowing a foreign country transit for trade through Bangladesh territory, the official said.

The advisers are now trying to persuade the commerce ministry to agree to a transit accord, said the official.

The advisers seem to be determined to make a deal any way, officials in different ministries said.

New Age | Newspaper





Considering the fact that Chittagong seaport is being built/expanded* by Chinese help unless Indians were involved maybe they should get the 1st honour of using the port for trade/oil etc..

Everybody in Asia realises the importance and strategic location of Chittagong which may even bypass Kolkata as the new sub base (not submarines) in the Bay of Bengal.

Peace
 
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It really does not matter if Bangladesh gives transit facility through Chittagong.

Myanmar is a better options and things are on going.

Geopolitically and geostrategically Myanmar is a better and more lucrative an option as anyone who understand geopolitics and strategy will understand.
 
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