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ISI can officially take the title of being the "Untouchable's" in India, LOL.
haha good one
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oh my holy lord why is it that every militant that is caught in india is being helped by pakistan and if this is the case then why doesnt india just disband RAW because these isi guys are getting away with almost everything in india.
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I really enjoyed the article! So Indians are crazy head over heels about Pakistani girls? This is so much fun... I'm going to twist this article a little and make it into one of those "pass this on to 10 people to survive the next day or pass this to 10 people to do a good deed for India"
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One aspect, however, which must be kept in mind, is the tendency among a section of the Indian media and intelligentsia to over-stress the ISI factor. And, while it is not in doubt that the Pakistani intelligence service has infiltrated a number of areas in India, and are consequently responsible for the prairie fires that are raging, it has become somewhat of a habit to blame the ISI for everything that ails India. ISI-criers in India must contend with the fact that discretion is the better part of both valor and wisdom. Thus, attribution of responsibility to the ISI in every case is unsound. In the words of a retired Pakistani Admiral whom this author met on 17 June 2003 at the Cooperative Monitoring Center in Albuquerque, New Mexico during the course of a lecture this author was delivering, I had no idea the ISI is so efficient.
The ISI and ULFA
On 6 April 2000, the then Chief Minister of Assam, Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, delivered the first comprehensive report in the Assam State Assembly after almost a yearlong engagement with the ISI-sponsored cell inside Assam. The placing of the report, of course, had to await the breaking up of the Pakistani intelligence agencies network in the state. On 7 August 1999, the Assam Police achieved a major breakthrough and arrested four important leaders of the network in Guwahati. The police also arrested twenty-seven other persons belonging to different Islamic militant groups. The important people who were arrested were: 1) Md Fasih Ullah Hussaini alias Hamid Mehmood alias Khalid Mehmood of Hyderabad (Sind), Pakistan; 2) Md Javed Waqar alias Md Musaffa alias Md Mehraj alias Abdul Rahman; 3) Maulana Hafiz Md Akram Mallik alias Musaffa Hussain alias Atabullah alias Bhaijan alias Abdul Awal of Mukam Shahwali village of Jammu and Kashmir; and 4) Kari Salim Ahmad alias Abdul Aziz alias Sadat of Mehilki village of Muzafarnagar of Uttar Pradesh.
The Chief Minister of Assams report to the State Assemblywhile seeking to provide comprehensiveness to the nature and degree of the ISI threatwas primarily a synopsis of the events that had occurred in the period following the 7 August 1999 arrests of the thirty-one people. In the period following the 7 August 1999 arrests, according to the report the state police had unearthed the modus operandi of the foreign agency. According to the sixteen-page report (which included mug-shots and profiles of the main accused) the activities of the ISI are mainly in the following areas:
· Promoting indiscriminate violence in the State by providing active support to the local militant outfits.
· Creating new militant outfits along ethnic and communal lines by instigating ethnic and religious groups.
· Supplying explosives and sophisticated arms to various terrorist groups.
· Causing sabotage of oil pipelines and other installations, communication lines, railways, and roads.
· Promoting fundamentalism and militancy among local Muslim youths by misleading them in the name of jihad.
· Promoting communal tension between Hindu and Muslim citizens by way of false and highly inflammatory propaganda.
Intelligence reports made available to this author have also indicated that the ISI had sought to smuggle in sixty kilograms of Research Developed Explosives, or RDX, into Assam. This was attempted in the month of August 1999 when the ISI decided to unleash Operation Tehsad in North East India. The motivation was to destroy the areas oil industry and surface transport. The ULFA was to be supplied the RDX. The ISI gave the ULFA the first installment of the explosives by which they could begin their operationsfour explosions took place in three days on rail tracks and trains.
The second consignment was left in the care of two Harkat-ul-Mujahideen cadres at the Sat Gombuz mosque in Bangladeshs Rajshahi district. The Assam police, however, managed to eliminate Babul Ingti, an ULFA cadre, in an encounter and was able, thereafter, to locate the whereabouts of the rest of the RDX. An Assam police team infiltrated into Rajshahi through West Bengal (with the help of the West Bengal Police) and having got the password from Waqar (which was Kandahar), the team managed to get thirty-two kgs of explosives from the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen and returned to Bengal through the Birsa corridor in Malda. Operation Tehsad ended in failure and oil installations could not be hit. However, on the orders of the ULFA Chief of Staff, Paresh Barua, the Volcano unit of the ULFA later destroyed the Thekeraguri oil depot near Jagiroad in Assam.
Reports have also indicated that the Assam police have in its possession evidence to show that the top ULFA leadership is in close touch with certain officials of the Pakistani High Commission in Dhaka. The ULFA leaders have also been traveling to Pakistan regularly for training, indoctrination, and consultation. According to the Chief Ministers report, confessional statements of many ULFA leaders including the organizations Vice Chairman, Pradip Gogoi, have stated that the Pakistani officials in their High Commission in Dhaka arrange passports for the ULFA in various Muslim names. The Chief of Staff of the ULFA, Paresh Barua, for instance, travels to Pakistan under the name Kamarudin Zaman Khan, an alias he has been provided with by the ISI.
The ULFA-ISI nexus had, in fact, begun way back in the early 1990s. A list (culled by the Special Branch of the Assam Police) of some of the early events and meetings that had taken place between the two organizations is provided below.
· In November 1990, the ULFA decides to send Munin Nabis and Partha Pratim Bora alias Javed to Bangladesh to contact the ISI at Dhaka for arranging supply of arms and ammunition. They were instructed to set up a base camp in Bangladesh.
· Munin Nabis sets up a base camp in Dhaka in 1990 with the help of a Col. (Retd.) Faruque of the Bangladesh Freedom Party and Gani Shapan of the Jatiyo Party. Nabis rents a house at Mogbazar in Dhaka.
· Munin Nabis assumes the name Iqbal and contacts Samsul Siddique, the Second Secretary in the Pakistan Embassy at Dhaka. Contacts with the ISI are established through Siddique.
· Munin Nabis visits Pakistan to negotiate with a terrorist group headed by a Mustafa Ali Jubardo for the impartment of training to ULFA cadres on payment.
· The Vice Chairman of the ULFA, Pradip Gogoi, visits Dhaka in January 1991 and contacts an ISI officer called Mr. Haque. Gogoi signs an agreement for the impartment of training to ULFA cadres. He also meets there another ISI officer, a Mr. Jalal.
· After the agreement with the ISI, Munin Nabis calls a group of ULFA members for training in Pakistan in April 1991. Pradip Gogoi accompanies a six-member group to Islamabad for training with the ISI.
· Hari Mohan Roy alias Rustar Choudhury of the ULFA, along with ten other ULFA cadres, undergo training in camps organized by the ISI in Pakistan in 1993. Hari Mohan Roy obtains a passport under the name of Jamul Akhtar, son of Akhtar Hussain of Bangladesh.
· According to a recorded statement of the renegade ULFA leader, Lohit Deury, the ULFAs Foreign Secretary, Sasadhar Choudhury, had passed on information of the Indian army formation location in Assam to the ISI in Kathmandu.
The ISI had also organized training for the ULFA cadres in association with the Directorate General of Field Intelligence of Bangladesh at a camp located thirty-five kilometers west of the Karnaphulli Hydro-electric project in the Chittagong Hill Tracts in 1993. A retired Bangladesh army officer, Brig. Joimullah Khan Choudhury, supervised the training. The ISI had reportedly also imparted specialized training to forty-eight ULFA cadres in Azad Kashmir along with the Muslim United Liberation Front of Assam. Furthermore, there is also evidence to suggest that the ISI is activating the border areas in Nepal for relocation of some of the militant camps, especially after the presence in Bhutan has become a problem. The ULFA along with the NDFB have reportedly already set up camps in Jhapa, Tapegung, and Panchthar in eastern Nepal.
The ULFAs links with the Sipahi-e-Sahiba was highlighted in a correspondence between a one-time head of the Special Branch of the Assam Police and the Joint Director (North East) of the Intelligence Bureau, India. The letter stated:
Intelligence input received recently indicates that ULFA has got links with Sipahi-e-Sahiba of Kabul Afghanistan, which is also funding the outfit for its training programme in the training camp in Halowaghat in Mymensingh district of Bangladesh as well as for the purchase of arms. A letter written by Commander-in-Chief of the Sipahi-e-Sahiba of Kabul Afghanistan to Commander-in-Chief, Terik-e-Jihad, Chokoria, Coxs Bazar, Bangladesh on 08-08-2000 indicates that a sum of Rs.80 lakh has been sent to the bank account no. 804856 of Islamia Bank, Chittagong to meet the expenditure of ULFA training camp located at Halowaghat and also to buy heavy arms for the outfit.
Another documentary evidence is a letter written by Jamaat-e-Islami chief of Bangladesh addressed to the General Secretary, MULTA which indicates that Jamaat-e-Islami of Pakistan has sent a sum of Rupees 8 Lakh through Jamaat-e-Islami of Bangladesh for assistance of MULTA in carrying out their struggle of establishing Muslim legal rights.
Another intelligence input received indicates that in order to run the training camp at Halowaghat, ULFA has recently opened two new bank accounts (i) Account No: 205341 in Islamia Bank, College Road Branch and (ii) Account No: 543708 in A.B. Bank, Medical Road Branch in Mymensingh District in Bangladesh. Reportedly ULFA is trying to establish a very profitable business of computer hardware and software in collaboration with Fema International, a Swedish computer company and they have made all preparations for opening up a software network sometime in the month of September 2000 in Saber about 30 Kms away from Dhaka [70]
The Pakistani misadventure in Kargil brought out into the open the ULFA-ISI nexus. [71] According to the Indian army operating in Assam, the ULFA was involved in the passing of information of troop movements to and from Assam to the ISI. The ULFA was also allegedly pressured by the ISI to make anti-Indian statementsprimarily supporting the liberation of Kashmir.
It has also been reported that the genocide perpetrated by the ULFA during the closing months of 2000 when they began to systematically target Hindi-speaking Assamese was planned by the ISI. [72] Indeed, intelligence reports have suggested that members of Bangladesh based Jamaat-e-Islamis student wing, the Islamic Chatra Shibir, operated along with the ULFA to perpetrate the acts of terror.
The ULFA has, however, denied any links with the ISI. It stated in its fortnightly newsletter:
Dismissing the continuous accusations of New Delhi and its occupation forces, ULFA Chief of Staff, Mr. Paresh Barua said that the ULFA is not a creation of the ISI. In a press release issued on November 3, Mr. Barua said that ULFA was born on the basis of genuine historical injustice in the womb of Mother Assam, ULFA never danced, not in the present time or would dance in future to the tunes of the ISI or somebody else The alleged link of the ULFA with ISI and other foreign agencies is only a heinous conspiracy of New Delhi, aimed at nullifying the legitimate liberation struggle of the people of Assam. [73]
One important aspect, however, which must be mentioned about the ULFA, is the refusal of most of the ULFAs 28th Battalion cadres to bow to the dictates of the ISI and destroy the oil installations situated in Upper Assam. The 28th Battalion [74] is situated in Upper Assam and most of the cadres of the battalion have grown up with the oil fields and the installations. As a result, when the ISI wanted the ULFA to attack the oil installations in Upper Assam, the 28th Battalion cadres disagreed. However, the non-compliance was short-lived and the ULFA fired a mortar shell onto a refinery in Upper Assams oil town of Digboi on 8 March 2003 and inflicted considerable damage. The ISI has clearly won the Upper Assam restraint round, and analysts are of the opinion that the ULFA is completely in the control of the Pakistani intelligence agency.
http://www.acdis.uiuc.edu/Research/OPs/Sai...s/chap_two.html
Director General
Deputy Director Generals
Counter Intelligence Public Affairs & Services External Political
Joint Intelligence Director
Finance Technical
North East India
One aspect, however, which must be kept in mind, is the tendency among a section of the Indian media and intelligentsia to over-stress the ISI factor. And, while it is not in doubt that the Pakistani intelligence service has infiltrated a number of areas in India, and are consequently responsible for the prairie fires that are raging, it has become somewhat of a habit to blame the ISI for everything that ails India. ISI-criers in India must contend with the fact that discretion is the better part of both valor and wisdom. Thus, attribution of responsibility to the ISI in every case is unsound. In the words of a retired Pakistani Admiral whom this author met on 17 June 2003 at the Cooperative Monitoring Center in Albuquerque, New Mexico during the course of a lecture this author was delivering, I had no idea the ISI is so efficient.
The ISI and ULFA
On 6 April 2000, the then Chief Minister of Assam, Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, delivered the first comprehensive report in the Assam State Assembly after almost a yearlong engagement with the ISI-sponsored cell inside Assam. The placing of the report, of course, had to await the breaking up of the Pakistani intelligence agencies network in the state. On 7 August 1999, the Assam Police achieved a major breakthrough and arrested four important leaders of the network in Guwahati. The police also arrested twenty-seven other persons belonging to different Islamic militant groups. The important people who were arrested were: 1) Md Fasih Ullah Hussaini alias Hamid Mehmood alias Khalid Mehmood of Hyderabad (Sind), Pakistan; 2) Md Javed Waqar alias Md Musaffa alias Md Mehraj alias Abdul Rahman; 3) Maulana Hafiz Md Akram Mallik alias Musaffa Hussain alias Atabullah alias Bhaijan alias Abdul Awal of Mukam Shahwali village of Jammu and Kashmir; and 4) Kari Salim Ahmad alias Abdul Aziz alias Sadat of Mehilki village of Muzafarnagar of Uttar Pradesh.
The Chief Minister of Assams report to the State Assemblywhile seeking to provide comprehensiveness to the nature and degree of the ISI threatwas primarily a synopsis of the events that had occurred in the period following the 7 August 1999 arrests of the thirty-one people. In the period following the 7 August 1999 arrests, according to the report the state police had unearthed the modus operandi of the foreign agency. According to the sixteen-page report (which included mug-shots and profiles of the main accused) the activities of the ISI are mainly in the following areas:
· Promoting indiscriminate violence in the State by providing active support to the local militant outfits.
· Creating new militant outfits along ethnic and communal lines by instigating ethnic and religious groups.
· Supplying explosives and sophisticated arms to various terrorist groups.
· Causing sabotage of oil pipelines and other installations, communication lines, railways, and roads.
· Promoting fundamentalism and militancy among local Muslim youths by misleading them in the name of jihad.
· Promoting communal tension between Hindu and Muslim citizens by way of false and highly inflammatory propaganda.
Intelligence reports made available to this author have also indicated that the ISI had sought to smuggle in sixty kilograms of Research Developed Explosives, or RDX, into Assam. This was attempted in the month of August 1999 when the ISI decided to unleash Operation Tehsad in North East India. The motivation was to destroy the areas oil industry and surface transport. The ULFA was to be supplied the RDX. The ISI gave the ULFA the first installment of the explosives by which they could begin their operationsfour explosions took place in three days on rail tracks and trains.
The second consignment was left in the care of two Harkat-ul-Mujahideen cadres at the Sat Gombuz mosque in Bangladeshs Rajshahi district. The Assam police, however, managed to eliminate Babul Ingti, an ULFA cadre, in an encounter and was able, thereafter, to locate the whereabouts of the rest of the RDX. An Assam police team infiltrated into Rajshahi through West Bengal (with the help of the West Bengal Police) and having got the password from Waqar (which was Kandahar), the team managed to get thirty-two kgs of explosives from the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen and returned to Bengal through the Birsa corridor in Malda. Operation Tehsad ended in failure and oil installations could not be hit. However, on the orders of the ULFA Chief of Staff, Paresh Barua, the Volcano unit of the ULFA later destroyed the Thekeraguri oil depot near Jagiroad in Assam.
Reports have also indicated that the Assam police have in its possession evidence to show that the top ULFA leadership is in close touch with certain officials of the Pakistani High Commission in Dhaka. The ULFA leaders have also been traveling to Pakistan regularly for training, indoctrination, and consultation. According to the Chief Ministers report, confessional statements of many ULFA leaders including the organizations Vice Chairman, Pradip Gogoi, have stated that the Pakistani officials in their High Commission in Dhaka arrange passports for the ULFA in various Muslim names. The Chief of Staff of the ULFA, Paresh Barua, for instance, travels to Pakistan under the name Kamarudin Zaman Khan, an alias he has been provided with by the ISI.
The ULFA-ISI nexus had, in fact, begun way back in the early 1990s. A list (culled by the Special Branch of the Assam Police) of some of the early events and meetings that had taken place between the two organizations is provided below.
· In November 1990, the ULFA decides to send Munin Nabis and Partha Pratim Bora alias Javed to Bangladesh to contact the ISI at Dhaka for arranging supply of arms and ammunition. They were instructed to set up a base camp in Bangladesh.
· Munin Nabis sets up a base camp in Dhaka in 1990 with the help of a Col. (Retd.) Faruque of the Bangladesh Freedom Party and Gani Shapan of the Jatiyo Party. Nabis rents a house at Mogbazar in Dhaka.
· Munin Nabis assumes the name Iqbal and contacts Samsul Siddique, the Second Secretary in the Pakistan Embassy at Dhaka. Contacts with the ISI are established through Siddique.
· Munin Nabis visits Pakistan to negotiate with a terrorist group headed by a Mustafa Ali Jubardo for the impartment of training to ULFA cadres on payment.
· The Vice Chairman of the ULFA, Pradip Gogoi, visits Dhaka in January 1991 and contacts an ISI officer called Mr. Haque. Gogoi signs an agreement for the impartment of training to ULFA cadres. He also meets there another ISI officer, a Mr. Jalal.
· After the agreement with the ISI, Munin Nabis calls a group of ULFA members for training in Pakistan in April 1991. Pradip Gogoi accompanies a six-member group to Islamabad for training with the ISI.
· Hari Mohan Roy alias Rustar Choudhury of the ULFA, along with ten other ULFA cadres, undergo training in camps organized by the ISI in Pakistan in 1993. Hari Mohan Roy obtains a passport under the name of Jamul Akhtar, son of Akhtar Hussain of Bangladesh.
· According to a recorded statement of the renegade ULFA leader, Lohit Deury, the ULFAs Foreign Secretary, Sasadhar Choudhury, had passed on information of the Indian army formation location in Assam to the ISI in Kathmandu.
The ISI had also organized training for the ULFA cadres in association with the Directorate General of Field Intelligence of Bangladesh at a camp located thirty-five kilometers west of the Karnaphulli Hydro-electric project in the Chittagong Hill Tracts in 1993. A retired Bangladesh army officer, Brig. Joimullah Khan Choudhury, supervised the training. The ISI had reportedly also imparted specialized training to forty-eight ULFA cadres in Azad Kashmir along with the Muslim United Liberation Front of Assam. Furthermore, there is also evidence to suggest that the ISI is activating the border areas in Nepal for relocation of some of the militant camps, especially after the presence in Bhutan has become a problem. The ULFA along with the NDFB have reportedly already set up camps in Jhapa, Tapegung, and Panchthar in eastern Nepal.
The ULFAs links with the Sipahi-e-Sahiba was highlighted in a correspondence between a one-time head of the Special Branch of the Assam Police and the Joint Director (North East) of the Intelligence Bureau, India. The letter stated:
Intelligence input received recently indicates that ULFA has got links with Sipahi-e-Sahiba of Kabul Afghanistan, which is also funding the outfit for its training programme in the training camp in Halowaghat in Mymensingh district of Bangladesh as well as for the purchase of arms. A letter written by Commander-in-Chief of the Sipahi-e-Sahiba of Kabul Afghanistan to Commander-in-Chief, Terik-e-Jihad, Chokoria, Coxs Bazar, Bangladesh on 08-08-2000 indicates that a sum of Rs.80 lakh has been sent to the bank account no. 804856 of Islamia Bank, Chittagong to meet the expenditure of ULFA training camp located at Halowaghat and also to buy heavy arms for the outfit.
Another documentary evidence is a letter written by Jamaat-e-Islami chief of Bangladesh addressed to the General Secretary, MULTA which indicates that Jamaat-e-Islami of Pakistan has sent a sum of Rupees 8 Lakh through Jamaat-e-Islami of Bangladesh for assistance of MULTA in carrying out their struggle of establishing Muslim legal rights.
Another intelligence input received indicates that in order to run the training camp at Halowaghat, ULFA has recently opened two new bank accounts (i) Account No: 205341 in Islamia Bank, College Road Branch and (ii) Account No: 543708 in A.B. Bank, Medical Road Branch in Mymensingh District in Bangladesh. Reportedly ULFA is trying to establish a very profitable business of computer hardware and software in collaboration with Fema International, a Swedish computer company and they have made all preparations for opening up a software network sometime in the month of September 2000 in Saber about 30 Kms away from Dhaka [70]
The Pakistani misadventure in Kargil brought out into the open the ULFA-ISI nexus. [71] According to the Indian army operating in Assam, the ULFA was involved in the passing of information of troop movements to and from Assam to the ISI. The ULFA was also allegedly pressured by the ISI to make anti-Indian statementsprimarily supporting the liberation of Kashmir.
It has also been reported that the genocide perpetrated by the ULFA during the closing months of 2000 when they began to systematically target Hindi-speaking Assamese was planned by the ISI. [72] Indeed, intelligence reports have suggested that members of Bangladesh based Jamaat-e-Islamis student wing, the Islamic Chatra Shibir, operated along with the ULFA to perpetrate the acts of terror.
The ULFA has, however, denied any links with the ISI. It stated in its fortnightly newsletter:
Dismissing the continuous accusations of New Delhi and its occupation forces, ULFA Chief of Staff, Mr. Paresh Barua said that the ULFA is not a creation of the ISI. In a press release issued on November 3, Mr. Barua said that ULFA was born on the basis of genuine historical injustice in the womb of Mother Assam, ULFA never danced, not in the present time or would dance in future to the tunes of the ISI or somebody else The alleged link of the ULFA with ISI and other foreign agencies is only a heinous conspiracy of New Delhi, aimed at nullifying the legitimate liberation struggle of the people of Assam. [73]
One important aspect, however, which must be mentioned about the ULFA, is the refusal of most of the ULFAs 28th Battalion cadres to bow to the dictates of the ISI and destroy the oil installations situated in Upper Assam. The 28th Battalion [74] is situated in Upper Assam and most of the cadres of the battalion have grown up with the oil fields and the installations. As a result, when the ISI wanted the ULFA to attack the oil installations in Upper Assam, the 28th Battalion cadres disagreed. However, the non-compliance was short-lived and the ULFA fired a mortar shell onto a refinery in Upper Assams oil town of Digboi on 8 March 2003 and inflicted considerable damage. The ISI has clearly won the Upper Assam restraint round, and analysts are of the opinion that the ULFA is completely in the control of the Pakistani intelligence agency.
http://www.acdis.uiuc.edu/Research/OPs/Sai...s/chap_two.html
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‘Afghanistan may be lost forever’ -DAWN - Top Stories; October 05, 2007
Another rebuttal to the charges directed against the much maligned agency.
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Excuse me Sir please goto the Intro Section and Introduce your self properly, who you are what you do for living things like that. SO we all know who you are and whom we are talking too.
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I always believe in this saying that
When someone gets threatend of jealouse of you it means you have somthing special.
Rest if all of you had noticed a well planed drive is being carried out against Pakistan Army to malign it as it was the one area where our adversary fails to make a ditch.
The Army had been admired and considerd a strong force gaurding the nation.
It is very unfortuant that circumstances had put the army in difficult sitition regarding its image which is being exploited by our adversary to the fullest thanks to our politicians and media (some of which is getting funding from abroad).
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Absolutely laughable!
I usually am very poor with proverbs but strongly recall this one after reading this ridiculous piece of bull.crp >>> CHOR KI DARHI MAI TINKA.
First of all, from all that I know abt ISI is that it does not work for the interest of pakistan anymore but for money. That ISI will do anything for money even if it is against the interst of pakistan and that's what they hire people for. This is what I came to know but I apologise if my information is not correct. If so, please correct me with proof.
Secondly, since the dawn of internet era, India (RAW?) has actively been engaged in using stupid, naive (sometimes not so naive) pakistanis through the internet to get information about pakistan and pakistani people from rates of bhindis in the local market to how 'patriotic' pakistanis die for bollywood cr@p. This has been ging on from ages. Im not sure if any 'concerned' people of pakistan even know this. They actively seeking and are successfully gathering every little info they can get from this pakistani internet users. Ofcourse these pakistani users dont even know that the other indian user they are interacting with is actually a RAW agent or something. Yes my seet little naive pakistani brothers and sisters. They are all around you. Those people you guys are innocently providing innocent little information about your country and your people, their social lives, their way of living, even fashion tips and how 'die hard fan' you thankless pakistanis are of their bollywood cr@p, they are recording each and everything that your granpa cannot imagine and prioviding it to those making policies and agendas and tactics to use against pakistan and benefit india. so my stupid little pakistani internet users. beware of who you interact with on the internet bcz RAW agents are scattered there like bees on honey or even worse.
What do I call those pakistanis who watch those anti-pakistani indian DVDs in their private time and come here on pak defence forum to post as a patriotic pakistani. just pathetic!
Alot has changed, alot has been going on and im not sure if these so called 'Intelligent' ISI agents even have a slight idea abt what indians are upto with regards to what they are blaming the present ISI for in the above piece of cr@p. This is actually their own 'dil ka chor' which is so clear from the above news.
People who have lived in the middle east and have interacted with indians know that this made up fake news is just one little piece of a huge well-planned indian agenda of projecting pakistan as the most backward, extremist mullah filled, poor third world country. Each and every indian who exists on the face of the earth considers it their national 'duty' to project this image of pakistan and pakistanis through thr media especially by taking control of it (oh cant we see how they have dominated the int'l media with these anti pak made up stories and acusations).
Since pakistanis on the other hand are naive by birth NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, no matter what profession they are into. Be it ARMY, ISI agents, Govt., banking,
I am not ashamed to say that none of the pakistanis (regardless of what profession or industry he belongs to) is not capanble to understand the twisted but highly clever indian mentality and their actions against pakistan.
By doing this, the indians are not only demoralising pakistanis (specifically) all around the world but also the entire nation of muslims around the world. By creating these flase anti pakistani stories, widely broadcasting them using the int'l media which they have control of today. so that not only non pakistanis but pakistanis themselves start to feel apologetic by believing what they are fed through that media which they love so watch bcz oh it's indian. Even americans civilians know that indians are turbanators (terminators of turbine users - a term used for indians by some americans). bcz this is no hidden truth now. everyone knows it except for pakistanis themselves.
Pakistanis need to wake up, smell the coffee, think smart, not think like bholay bhaley gaon ke ullu, trust themselves and move forward with boldness in confidence in themselves before it is too late. I would say IT IS STILL NOT TOO LATE. So wake up my pakistani fools and try to understand indian tactics. Trust in your own blood, your own talent, your own people. Believe in yourself. Do not be pushed or get demoralised and start feeling guilty for WHAT YOU HAVE NOT DONE. Learn to understand their dorty tactics to demoralise you, and destabalise you and make you and your pakistan the same country which they are and want to project to the rest of the world, i.e; a mullah filled, backward, terrorist, third world poor country.
Please wake up and understand the importance of UNITY. Those stories abt unity you read in 1 standard were not for just fun and joy but for you to gain some wisdom so, gain some wisdom atleast now before it is too late.
Here is a link:
LU8DDYz68kM[/media] - Battle at Kruger
Watch it and take some lesson. This is only about unity but there is so much more abt absolutely every simple lesson in life you need to learn and take action.
This is for all the confused pakistanis who are puzzeled at what's in store for them for the furture. Who ahev no direction and guidance. How can they when every new politician came only to mess up the land even more than the last one.
I usually am very poor with proverbs but strongly recall this one after reading this ridiculous piece of bull.crp >>> CHOR KI DARHI MAI TINKA.
First of all, from all that I know abt ISI is that it does not work for the interest of pakistan anymore but for money. That ISI will do anything for money even if it is against the interst of pakistan and that's what they hire people for. This is what I came to know but I apologise if my information is not correct. If so, please correct me with proof.
Secondly, since the dawn of internet era, India (RAW?) has actively been engaged in using stupid, naive (sometimes not so naive) pakistanis through the internet to get information about pakistan and pakistani people from rates of bhindis in the local market to how 'patriotic' pakistanis die for bollywood cr@p. This has been ging on from ages. Im not sure if any 'concerned' people of pakistan even know this. They actively seeking and are successfully gathering every little info they can get from this pakistani internet users. Ofcourse these pakistani users dont even know that the other indian user they are interacting with is actually a RAW agent or something. Yes my seet little naive pakistani brothers and sisters. They are all around you. Those people you guys are innocently providing innocent little information about your country and your people, their social lives, their way of living, even fashion tips and how 'die hard fan' you thankless pakistanis are of their bollywood cr@p, they are recording each and everything that your granpa cannot imagine and prioviding it to those making policies and agendas and tactics to use against pakistan and benefit india. so my stupid little pakistani internet users. beware of who you interact with on the internet bcz RAW agents are scattered there like bees on honey or even worse.
What do I call those pakistanis who watch those anti-pakistani indian DVDs in their private time and come here on pak defence forum to post as a patriotic pakistani. just pathetic!
Alot has changed, alot has been going on and im not sure if these so called 'Intelligent' ISI agents even have a slight idea abt what indians are upto with regards to what they are blaming the present ISI for in the above piece of cr@p. This is actually their own 'dil ka chor' which is so clear from the above news.
People who have lived in the middle east and have interacted with indians know that this made up fake news is just one little piece of a huge well-planned indian agenda of projecting pakistan as the most backward, extremist mullah filled, poor third world country. Each and every indian who exists on the face of the earth considers it their national 'duty' to project this image of pakistan and pakistanis through thr media especially by taking control of it (oh cant we see how they have dominated the int'l media with these anti pak made up stories and acusations).
Since pakistanis on the other hand are naive by birth NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, no matter what profession they are into. Be it ARMY, ISI agents, Govt., banking,
I am not ashamed to say that none of the pakistanis (regardless of what profession or industry he belongs to) is not capanble to understand the twisted but highly clever indian mentality and their actions against pakistan.
By doing this, the indians are not only demoralising pakistanis (specifically) all around the world but also the entire nation of muslims around the world. By creating these flase anti pakistani stories, widely broadcasting them using the int'l media which they have control of today. so that not only non pakistanis but pakistanis themselves start to feel apologetic by believing what they are fed through that media which they love so watch bcz oh it's indian. Even americans civilians know that indians are turbanators (terminators of turbine users - a term used for indians by some americans). bcz this is no hidden truth now. everyone knows it except for pakistanis themselves.
Pakistanis need to wake up, smell the coffee, think smart, not think like bholay bhaley gaon ke ullu, trust themselves and move forward with boldness in confidence in themselves before it is too late. I would say IT IS STILL NOT TOO LATE. So wake up my pakistani fools and try to understand indian tactics. Trust in your own blood, your own talent, your own people. Believe in yourself. Do not be pushed or get demoralised and start feeling guilty for WHAT YOU HAVE NOT DONE. Learn to understand their dorty tactics to demoralise you, and destabalise you and make you and your pakistan the same country which they are and want to project to the rest of the world, i.e; a mullah filled, backward, terrorist, third world poor country.
Please wake up and understand the importance of UNITY. Those stories abt unity you read in 1 standard were not for just fun and joy but for you to gain some wisdom so, gain some wisdom atleast now before it is too late.
Here is a link:
LU8DDYz68kM[/media] - Battle at Kruger
Watch it and take some lesson. This is only about unity but there is so much more abt absolutely every simple lesson in life you need to learn and take action.
This is for all the confused pakistanis who are puzzeled at what's in store for them for the furture. Who ahev no direction and guidance. How can they when every new politician came only to mess up the land even more than the last one.
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does ISI have the capability to take on thier mother agency,CIA.
i think that will be topic to watch???????
i think that will be topic to watch???????
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ISI can officially take the title of being the "Untouchable's" in India, LOL.
Talk to the Hand
ISI is untouchable in INDIA!
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my, dear PROUD PAKISTANI,plz come out off the indian phobia, man this world is not india?
we (pakistanis) should start looking, in a bigger picture, pakistan has not just have , one enemy!
our ISI should have the capabilites, to engage the enemy, from any where , from any other super hotshot, premier agencies?
CAN ISI PROTECT PAKISTAN FROM CIA????????????????????
we (pakistanis) should start looking, in a bigger picture, pakistan has not just have , one enemy!
our ISI should have the capabilites, to engage the enemy, from any where , from any other super hotshot, premier agencies?
CAN ISI PROTECT PAKISTAN FROM CIA????????????????????
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don't worry !! ISI can thinks better then us , and ISI cant protect any one it can be only WASILA, and <(_|_)| can protect us form every one just pray !!
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my , point was that, does our ISI, have tendencies to take on , agencies like CIA?
if answer is yes , then we, need to discuss TT side.
if answer is NO, then also we need to discuss, how and why ???? pak army can, MAKE ISI, a real tool to, safeguard
PAKISTANS NATIONAL INTERSTS in all over world, not just one
country.....?
i think , i made my , point very clear??????????
as 4, my dear, mr,REHAN plz stop using allah every where, i mean
we all are muslims so plz ,allah is our only 1 god, and i pray
namaz for well being of myself, my family my country, my NATION, and always begeging his(ALLAH)s help and ISnt its enough?????????????
but we need to prepare. our selves AS ALLAH, HAS TOLD US IN QURAN,?
i think we need these kind of honrable, forums like this , to share ideas and to discuss the subjects which we think are, important for our nation and our country.
surely, we need allahs will, in every thing we do in our lives, but ISI was being created by PA, and we were looking at its oprerational qualities.
come on REHAN, TAKE THE RESPONSIBALITIES, dont look for ALMIGHTY ALLAH TO DO EVERY THING TO US??????
PLZ , CHANGE THIS FRAME OF MIND OF YOURS, BECAUSE THIS THE THEORY, WHICH IS BEING told and taught IN MADRSAs.
if answer is yes , then we, need to discuss TT side.
if answer is NO, then also we need to discuss, how and why ???? pak army can, MAKE ISI, a real tool to, safeguard
PAKISTANS NATIONAL INTERSTS in all over world, not just one
country.....?
i think , i made my , point very clear??????????
as 4, my dear, mr,REHAN plz stop using allah every where, i mean
we all are muslims so plz ,allah is our only 1 god, and i pray
namaz for well being of myself, my family my country, my NATION, and always begeging his(ALLAH)s help and ISnt its enough?????????????
but we need to prepare. our selves AS ALLAH, HAS TOLD US IN QURAN,?
i think we need these kind of honrable, forums like this , to share ideas and to discuss the subjects which we think are, important for our nation and our country.
surely, we need allahs will, in every thing we do in our lives, but ISI was being created by PA, and we were looking at its oprerational qualities.
come on REHAN, TAKE THE RESPONSIBALITIES, dont look for ALMIGHTY ALLAH TO DO EVERY THING TO US??????
PLZ , CHANGE THIS FRAME OF MIND OF YOURS, BECAUSE THIS THE THEORY, WHICH IS BEING told and taught IN MADRSAs.
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