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OBL was in contact with members of Pakistan's spy agency: Report

Like Indians who died in 26/11 Attack and their government could not do anything except sending dossiers LOL :chilli: :chilli:


No, Like pakistanis who died in war on terror/drones and their government could not do anything except saying Ebkey Maar..! LOL



































This ^^ Sick head stealth Jihadi was asking for a tit for tat reply, No surprise Asim Aquil missed his post! :rolleyes:
 
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Like Indians who died in 26/11 Attack and their government could not do anything except sending dossiers LOL :chilli: :chilli:

Nice.. You are comparing the killing of world's biggest terrorist with a massacre of 150+ innocent civilians (many of them were your ummah Muslims).. Its Pakistanis like you that make people think that Pakistan deserves every single bit of misfortune its facing every day...
 
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Right.. the leaks are based on a think tanks internal email..
How very effing reliable.

This does not take away from the fact that there were people who knew OBL was there.. and were also part of the establishment setup.
 
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Bl[i]tZ;2642249 said:
http://edge.********.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2012/Feb/27/********-dot-com-7da1081fe150-osama-bin-laden.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad4964944dcdeb552&ec_rate=300

Osama Bin Laden was in routine contact with several senior figures from Pakistan's military intelligence agency while in hiding in the country, according to a large cache of secret intelligence files.

The disclosure was contained in emails from the private American security company, Stratfor, which were published by WikiLeaks website yesterday (Monday) after being obtained by the Anonymous hacking group.

Stratfor provides analysis of world affairs to major corporations, military officials and government agencies and was once likened by an American business magazine to a "shadow CIA".

According to one of the emails, the company was shown the information papers collected from bin Laden's Abbotabad compound after the US special forces attack last May that resulted in his death. The e-mail, from a Stratfor analyst, suggested that up to 12 officials in Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency knew of the al-Qaeda leader's safe house.

The internal email did not name the Pakistani officials involved but said the US could use the information as a bargaining chip in negotiations with Islamabad after the raid.

American officials have always believed it was impossible for the ISI not to have known that Bin Laden was sheltering in a garrison town so close to Islamabad. Pakistan has repeatedly dismissed the charge.

"Mid to senior level ISI and Pak Mil with one retired Pak Mil General that had knowledge of the OBL arrangements and safehouse," the email said of the officers involved. "I get a very clear sense we (US intel) know names and ranks."

WikiLeaks claimed to have five million Stratfor emails that it would publish in collaboration with media outlets. HOnly 200 were released in the first lot.

Other revelations from the emails included the suggestion that Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's president, may have less than a year to live after his cancer spread to the colon and bone marrow.

Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, accused Stratfor of involvement in wide range of legally or morally questionable research activities for corporations.

Stratfor rejected claims that there was anything improper in the way it handled information gathered. "Stratfor has worked to build good sources in many countries around the world, as any publisher of global geopolitical analysis would do," the company said. "We have done so in a straightforward manner and we are committed to meeting the highest standards of professional conduct."

Revealed! Osama had frequent contact with senior Pak intelligence & military figures - World - DNA

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Here is the original email exchange that was hacked by Anonymous from Stratford The Global Intelligence Files - Re: OBL take -- quick response needed

Re: OBL take -- quick response needed
Email-ID 1146487
Date 2011-05-14 01:47:27
From burton@stratfor.com
To bokhari@stratfor.com, sean.noonan@stratfor.com, secure@stratfor.com
ISI should know by now since they have the homeowner. There is much more
to the story on The Courier which ISI doesn't know.

On 5/13/2011 6:18 PM, Kamran Bokhari wrote:

You know this reminds me of a discussion I had on NPR's Diane Rehm Show
back in July '07. I was on with Peter Brookes (former deputy assistant
secretary of defense for Asian and Pacific affairs in the second Bush
administration) and the State Dept's current CT Coordinator, Daniel
Benjamin. These two guys kept saying how ObL was in the tribal belt
while I argued that he was much deeper in K-P province. God knows how
many years were wasted chasing the sob in the tribal belt.

On 5/13/2011 7:04 PM, Fred Burton wrote:

The investigative key would be two prong to uncover the links to ****
ISI and Mil:

1) The Homeowner

2) The Courier


Both are known quantities.

On 5/13/2011 5:56 PM, Kamran Bokhari wrote:

Could be anyone of Lt. Col or below rank. Then again it could be a
retired military officer still serving as a civie in the
directorate. Or a consultant/contractor who work in the field. Or
even a civilian official (60 percent are civilians in the ISI).
Since most army officers including the chief are deputed to the ISI
for a max of 3 years, we are really talking about people who are
career intel officers. Then there is a large cadre of retired army
personnel outside the security establishment. Good luck sifting
through the jungle.


On 5/13/2011 5:29 PM, Fred Burton wrote:

Not further specified. But, it may help explain why the ISI chief
has offered to resign, which is the noble way out. He can be the
fall guy for domestic consumption. It would be best if he
defected.


On 5/13/2011 4:23 PM, Kamran Bokhari wrote:

What does source mean by mid to senior level. As for retired, I
can think of a number of them. So, that is not really
surprising.

On 5/13/2011 2:27 PM, burton@stratfor.com wrote:

Same response as before:

Mid to senior level ISI and Pak Mil with one retired Pak Mil
General that had knowledge of the OBL arrangements and safe
house.

Names unk to me and not provided.

Specific ranks unk to me and not provided.

But, I get a very clear sense we (US intel) know names and
ranks.


I also do not know if we have passed this info to the GOP.

If I was in command, I would not pass the info to the GOP,
because we can't trust them. I would piece meal the names off
and bury in a list of other non-related names for internal ISI
traces in a non-alerting fashion, to see what the Pakis tell
us.

I may also trade one or two names for the captured tail
rudder.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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From: Fred Burton
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:22:31 -0500 (CDT)
To: Kamran Bokhari
Cc: Sean Noonan; Secure
List
Subject: Re: OBL take -- quick response needed
I may be able to get that, let me ask.

On 5/13/2011 12:21 PM, Kamran Bokhari wrote:

No surprises here. We will never find out their departments
but their ranks would be very telling.

On 5/13/2011 11:19 AM, Sean Noonan wrote:

awesome. Please see what you can find out about what kind
of department they are in, or area they cover.

On 5/13/11 9:58 AM, Fred Burton wrote:

More on # 3 --

Several w/in ISI and Pak Mil, less than 12.

More on this later.


On 5/12/2011 3:26 PM, Sean Noonan wrote:

1 specific operational plans

2 communications with franchise groups (like AQAP)

3 connections to anyone associated with the Pakistani state


------Original Message------
From: Fred Burton
To: Secure List
Subject: OBL take -- quick response needed
Sent: May 12, 2011 15:25

I can get access to the materials seized from the OBL safe house.

What are the top (not 45) questions we want addressed?



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The mega-leaks website, WikiLeaks, has partnered with the hackers cooperative Anonymous, to publish internal emails of the American strategic intelligence company Stratfor. In one of the hacked emails, Stratfor officials discuss information obtained from one of their sources who reports that Israeli commandos, in cooperation with Kurdish fighters, have destroyed Iranian nuclear installations.

WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, will hold a press conference today in London where he plans to reveal new details from the Stratfor emails, including details on the company's dealings with the American government and major corporations, and its network of paid sources.

In a WikiLeaks press release last night, the group said that it had obtained over five million emails generated by the Stratfor headquarters in Texas, from 2004 until the end of 2011. Though the organization does not specify the source of the emails, it has already been published that Stratfor was a target of the Anonymous hackers.

According to the emails, among Stratfor's clients are American government agencies including the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Marine Corps, the Dow Chemical company, for whom Stratfor is alleged to have kept tabs on activists fighting the company for compensation over the Indian Bhopal chemical plant disaster in 1984, and defense giants Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon.

In addition, the WikiLeaks statement said Stratfor also "monitored" activists supporting the blight of the 1984 Bhopal chemical disaster on behalf of the US chemical giant Dow Chemical.

In one of the emails from November 2011, Startfor officials discuss the explosion at an Iranian missile base near Tehran and quote a source who "was asked what he thought of reports that the Israelis were preparing a military offensive against Iran. Response: I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago."

One company analyst responded dismissively to the possibility of an Israeli attack having already taken place, asking: "How and when did the Israelis destroy the infra on the ground?"

"Would anyone actually accept that this could let the Europeans forget about the Euro crisis, something they have been experiencing every day for over a year?!" the analyst added, asking: "Do we attribute any credibility to this item at all? I don't even see what possible disinfo purposes this could serve."

Some of the Stratfor analysts expressed the opinion that Israel had sent commandos into Iran, perhaps with the assistance of Kurdish fighters or Iranian Jews who had immigrated to Israel, to carry out these operations.

The emails also mention a plan to coerce an Israeli source into updating the firm on the medical condition of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

"[Y]ou have to take control of him. Control means financial, sexual or psychological control... This is intended to start our conversation on your next phase," Stratfor CEO George Friedman is quoted of instructing one of the firm's analysts.

According to the emails, many Stratfor operatives are former employees of the U.S. government and they routinely pay sources for information in cash.

The WikiLeaks press statement also mentions "private intelligence staff who align themselves closely with U.S. government policies and channel tips to the Mossad – including through an information mule in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Yossi Melman, who conspired with Guardian journalist David Leigh to secretly, and in violation of WikiLeaks' contract with the Guardian, move WikiLeaks U.S. diplomatic cables to Israel."

Mr Melman who until recently covered intelligence affairs for Haaretz said in response that at the time "I worked for Haaretz and with the approval of my editors I obtained the WikiLeaks documents."

"Harretz published some of them. I am proud of my journalistic achievements which was praised by my editors and the readers. Julian Assang of Wikileaks tried to prevent the publication arguing that the documents belonged to him," he added, saying, "I and my editors rejected his claim and went head with the publication."

"Now [Assange] tries to take revenge on me by hinting that I was a channel to the Israeli intelligence community. This is a complete lie. He also by way of innuendo tries to create the impression that I was a source for Stratfor. This is another lie. I do not have any control whatsoever about what Stratfor personnel wrote about me in their private in house correspondence," Melman added.

In Novmber 2010, WikiLeaks published, along with a number of major media organizations, including the Guardian, Der Spiegel and the New York Times, a cache of U.S. State Department diplomatic cables. American intelligence analyst, Bradley Manning, is being court-martialed for allegedly leaking the cables to WikiLeaks.

stratford is part of Israeli lobbying nothing more nothing less.
 
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and the guy talking is a Stratfor analyst, not even a official in the US government setup, so I say


BULLSH.IT
 
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The mega-leaks website, WikiLeaks, has partnered with the hackers cooperative Anonymous, to publish internal emails of the American strategic intelligence company Stratfor. In one of the hacked emails, Stratfor officials discuss information obtained from one of their sources who reports that Israeli commandos, in cooperation with Kurdish fighters, have destroyed Iranian nuclear installations.

WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, will hold a press conference today in London where he plans to reveal new details from the Stratfor emails, including details on the company's dealings with the American government and major corporations, and its network of paid sources.

In a WikiLeaks press release last night, the group said that it had obtained over five million emails generated by the Stratfor headquarters in Texas, from 2004 until the end of 2011. Though the organization does not specify the source of the emails, it has already been published that Stratfor was a target of the Anonymous hackers.

According to the emails, among Stratfor's clients are American government agencies including the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Marine Corps, the Dow Chemical company, for whom Stratfor is alleged to have kept tabs on activists fighting the company for compensation over the Indian Bhopal chemical plant disaster in 1984, and defense giants Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon.

In addition, the WikiLeaks statement said Stratfor also "monitored" activists supporting the blight of the 1984 Bhopal chemical disaster on behalf of the US chemical giant Dow Chemical.

In one of the emails from November 2011, Startfor officials discuss the explosion at an Iranian missile base near Tehran and quote a source who "was asked what he thought of reports that the Israelis were preparing a military offensive against Iran. Response: I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago."

One company analyst responded dismissively to the possibility of an Israeli attack having already taken place, asking: "How and when did the Israelis destroy the infra on the ground?"

"Would anyone actually accept that this could let the Europeans forget about the Euro crisis, something they have been experiencing every day for over a year?!" the analyst added, asking: "Do we attribute any credibility to this item at all? I don't even see what possible disinfo purposes this could serve."

Some of the Stratfor analysts expressed the opinion that Israel had sent commandos into Iran, perhaps with the assistance of Kurdish fighters or Iranian Jews who had immigrated to Israel, to carry out these operations.

The emails also mention a plan to coerce an Israeli source into updating the firm on the medical condition of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

"[Y]ou have to take control of him. Control means financial, sexual or psychological control... This is intended to start our conversation on your next phase," Stratfor CEO George Friedman is quoted of instructing one of the firm's analysts.

According to the emails, many Stratfor operatives are former employees of the U.S. government and they routinely pay sources for information in cash.

The WikiLeaks press statement also mentions "private intelligence staff who align themselves closely with U.S. government policies and channel tips to the Mossad – including through an information mule in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Yossi Melman, who conspired with Guardian journalist David Leigh to secretly, and in violation of WikiLeaks' contract with the Guardian, move WikiLeaks U.S. diplomatic cables to Israel."

Mr Melman who until recently covered intelligence affairs for Haaretz said in response that at the time "I worked for Haaretz and with the approval of my editors I obtained the WikiLeaks documents."

"Harretz published some of them. I am proud of my journalistic achievements which was praised by my editors and the readers. Julian Assang of Wikileaks tried to prevent the publication arguing that the documents belonged to him," he added, saying, "I and my editors rejected his claim and went head with the publication."

"Now [Assange] tries to take revenge on me by hinting that I was a channel to the Israeli intelligence community. This is a complete lie. He also by way of innuendo tries to create the impression that I was a source for Stratfor. This is another lie. I do not have any control whatsoever about what Stratfor personnel wrote about me in their private in house correspondence," Melman added.

In Novmber 2010, WikiLeaks published, along with a number of major media organizations, including the Guardian, Der Spiegel and the New York Times, a cache of U.S. State Department diplomatic cables. American intelligence analyst, Bradley Manning, is being court-martialed for allegedly leaking the cables to WikiLeaks.

stratford is part of Israeli lobbying nothing more nothing less.

and the guy talking is a Stratfor analyst, not even a official in the US government setup, so I say


BULLSH.IT

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So let me get this straight.. this is an internal email? What's the point here then, if that's the case? Why even bother looking at this?

---------- Post added at 08:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 AM ----------


Perhaps better image to describe yourself:

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This is a leak ?

I agree with you

its hardly a leak

even my butler knew that Pasha and Osama used to go for a snack together.
whats considered as leak is a bunch of emails of the Americans saying the same thing they have said in the media.
 
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I agree with you

its hardly a leak

even my butler knew that Pasha and Osama used to go for a snack together.
whats considered as leak is a bunch of emails of the Americans saying the same thing they have said in the media.

I hope your butler was not the one serving those snacks ;)
 
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Are they..?? Really?? You live in Pakistan.. Look around and then comment if the agency tasked with protecting Pakistan from existential threats is really doing an awesome job..

please, dont be so serious welcome back by the way

---------- Post added at 06:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 PM ----------

I hope your butler was not the one serving those snacks ;)

shhh
now now

I hope your butler was not the one serving those snacks ;)

I am going to Abbotabad in few months time. people over there are said to be really fed up with the joke of

OMG, you had Osama as your neighbour?


But I will do it anyway. I will try to make some video clips and upload them. lol

---------- Post added at 07:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 PM ----------

I hope your butler was not the one serving those snacks ;)

I am going to Abbotabad in few months time. people over there are said to be really fed up with the joke of

OMG, you had Osama as your neighbour?


But I will do it anyway. I will try to make some video clips and upload them. lol

Bl[i]tZ;2642249 said:
http://edge.********.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2012/Feb/27/********-dot-com-7da1081fe150-osama-bin-laden.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad4964944dcdeb552&ec_rate=300

Osama Bin Laden was in routine contact with several senior figures from Pakistan's military intelligence agency while in hiding in the country, according to a large cache of secret intelligence files.

lol

The disclosure was contained in emails from the private American security company, Stratfor, which were published by WikiLeaks website yesterday (Monday) after being obtained by the Anonymous hacking group.

Stratfor provides analysis of world affairs to major corporations, military officials and government agencies and was once likened by an American business magazine to a "shadow CIA".

According to one of the emails, the company was shown the information papers collected from bin Laden's Abbotabad compound after the US special forces attack last May that resulted in his death. The e-mail, from a Stratfor analyst, suggested that up to 12 officials in Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency knew of the al-Qaeda leader's safe house.

The internal email did not name the Pakistani officials involved but said the US could use the information as a bargaining chip in negotiations with Islamabad after the raid.

American officials have always believed it was impossible for the ISI not to have known that Bin Laden was sheltering in a garrison town so close to Islamabad. Pakistan has repeatedly dismissed the charge.



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I wonder how much more this story can be milked?
why something can be classified as a leak which was being only said by American talkshow hosts ,anchors and analysts? as well as the American establishment? just because they sent the same thing via cables and emails to each other it becomes a secret?

:)

by the way I am disappointed that the leak doesnt say that the lead about the courier was given by ISI?
damn double crosses these ISI guys and poor Doctor Afridi got the blame altough he might have been genuinely worried about Osama's polio infection.
 
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