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NYPD may have spied on Muslims solely because of religion: US court

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A federal appeals court appeared concerned Tuesday that the New York Police Department may have spied on Muslim groups following the Sept 11, 2001, terrorist attacks solely because of their religion.

The three-judge panel questioned whether police had any specific leads to justify the surveillance of Muslim businesses, mosques and student groups in New Jersey following 9/11.

The practice went on from 2002 to at least 2012, according to a lawsuit filed by several Muslim groups.

US District Judge William Martini had thrown the lawsuit out, concluding that police could not keep watch “on Muslim terrorist activities without monitoring the Muslim community itself”.

However, the judges on the Philadelphia-based 3rd US Circuit Court of Appeals questioned Tuesday why the surveillance wasn't more targeted.

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“You've got to admit there are a lot of people in this country that (became) prejudiced against Muslims after 9/11,” US Circuit Judge Jane R. Roth said.

“Whether that includes the people who have instituted the surveillance practice in New York City — how can we know at this point?”

The Muslim plaintiffs — including an Iraq War veteran, a school principal and members of the Muslim Student Association at Rutgers University — hope to have the lawsuit revived so they can learn more about the program.

The city's lawyer, Peter Farrell of the New York City Law Department, called any injuries suffered by Muslims “self-imposed, based on subjective fears” that may have led them to avoid gathering with other Muslims after the attacks.

However, the 3rd Circuit judges said the harm was “concrete” if attendance at mosques fell or businesses lost money because they feared those locations were being watched. The case drew an overflow crowd.

“I think it's really unfair to have the New York Police Department come to our jurisdiction, come to our university, to spy on us. I'm Muslim by religion — but my nationality is American. So I'm American by heart,” said Taqi Khan, 20, who was born in Pakistan but grew up in New Jersey.

The practice came to light through a series of articles by The Associated Press.

Baher Azmy, legal director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, argued for the Muslim plaintiffs. “You cannot use religion as a proxy for criminality,” he said.

NYPD may have spied on Muslims solely because of religion: US court - World - DAWN.COM
 
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Increase religious and racial profiling! It's a very useful method for detecting Moslem terrorists.
Intelligent Americans cannot even tell apart an Arab,Persian and Indian.Intelligent Americans cannot even differentiate between Sikhs,Hindus and Muslims. More Sikhs and Hindus than Muslims were beaten up after 9/11 :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Their country, their rules. Profiling can work, it does work. Speaking from a security background, yes it is an important tool. Back in the 80's and 90's it was the Russians who were profiled, extensively and so were any communist sympathizers, in-between then it was PETA and extremist political activist groups and now it's the Muslims turn.

The sad fact is, if the Muslims living in these foreign lands want such profiling to stop they must provide the state with credible and adequate countermeasures and controls to show that they can identify and report potential sympathizers and miscreants in their community.

From a threat assessment point of view, this is simple security practice. It is distasteful yes, but that doesn't make it wrong.
 
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Their country, their rules. Profiling can work, it does work. Speaking from a security background, yes it is an important tool. Back in the 80's and 90's it was the Russians who were profiled, extensively and so were any communist sympathizers, in-between then it was PETA and extremist political activist groups and now it's the Muslims turn.

The sad fact is, if the Muslims living in these foreign lands want such profiling to stop they must provide the state with credible and adequate countermeasures and controls to show that they can identify and report potential sympathizers and miscreants in their community.

From a threat assessment point of view, this is simple security practice. It is distasteful yes, but that doesn't make it wrong.


Thank you

Very well put.
 
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Intelligent Americans cannot even tell apart an Arab,Persian and Indian.Intelligent Americans cannot even differentiate between Sikhs,Hindus and Muslims. More Sikhs and Hindus than Muslims were beaten up after 9/11 :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
And I find it disgusting.

But if I am an American, I would be willing to continue this policy - for my safety. They have every right to demand that.
 
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But if I am an American, I would be willing to continue this policy - for my safety. They have every right to demand that.
What about India? Why don't you start it in India too? Considering India has more Muslims than total population of USA.
 
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What about India? Why don't you start it in India too? Considering India has more Muslims than total population of USA.
I don't have executive power. Sorry. Besides, why would I try to do that to deshbhakts/ secular patriots like you? :unsure:
 
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I don't have executive power. Sorry. Besides, why would I try to do that to deshbhakts/ secular patriots like you? :unsure:
I am a desh-bhakt. But there are far more dangerous people out there. Their number is in crores.

You are Modi of PDF. So you need to do something about it.
 
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