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Number of U.S. coronavirus cases of UNKNOWN ORIGIN climbs to four

This is have 2 meanings

  • 1. That's information from japan media, the virus is originated from U.S is true

    Votes: 9 60.0%
  • 2. There is already undetected outbreak inside U.S (This is Fatal)

    Votes: 6 40.0%

  • Total voters
    15
Coronavirus testing is free, but the hospital trip may set you back thousands. One graphic breaks down potential costs.
Hillary Hoffower, Business Insider US
Even though COVID-19 testing is free, Americans could still be stuck with pricey hospital bills.

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Free coronavirus testing isn’t all it appears to be.

A report published Thursday by America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) stated that the The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is currently the only facility equipped to test for COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus that broke out in China, or designate other laboratories to do so. The CDC is not billing for testing.

This means if you go to the ER or urgent care for coronavirus treatment, you won’t be charged for COVID-19 lab testing. But there are other charges you might have to pay, depending on your insurance plan, or lack thereof. A hospital stay in itself could be costly and you would likely have to pay for tests for other viruses or conditions.

Consider Miami resident Osmel Martinez Azcue, as reported by The Miami Herald’s Ben Conarck. He checked himself into the hospital for flu-like symptoms after arriving back in the US from a work trip to China, concerned he had been exposed to the novel coronavirus.

He asked to be first tested for the flu before getting a CT scan to screen for coronavirus because of his limited insurance plan, Conarck wrote. He did have the flu, which meant no further testing for coronavirus, but he told Conarck that the whole hospital visit cost $3,270, according to a notice from his insurance company.

A trip to the ER can set you back thousands
To find out just how much coronavirus-related medical costs could set a patient back financially, Business Insider obtained estimates for average medical costs from healthcare cost database FAIR Health.

In the chart below, FAIR Health provided the average costs for common ER visits, office outpatient visits, and global urgent care visits, to cover possible types of visits one could make to get checked for coronavirus. It also includes average costs for flu and blood tests, which could be run to rule out other conditions or illnesses.

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These are possible costs for various suspected coronavirus treatment. The list is not exhaustive.

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Now, this chart doesn’t mean that you’ll undergo all indicated procedures if you check into a hospital or visit urgent care with flu-like symptoms – it’s just identifying possible procedures that might occur for coronavirus treatment. It’s currently unknown what exact procedures would be given to a patient with suspected COVID-19. And, depending on your symptoms, you could have a quick 15-minute visit to urgent care or an urgent visit to the ER – not necessarily both. That is all to say, this list is hypothetical and not exhaustive.

Costs labeled as uninsured or out-of-network are the billed charges you would have to pay if you’re one of the 27 million Americans without insurance. That’s also the cost you’d pay if you go to a hospital or doctor outside of your insurance network, and if your insurance plan has no out-of-network coverage. Either way, that means you’d have to pay 100% of the price.

Costs labeled as insured are the full fee due to the provider under the insurance plan. If you’ve met your deductible, you’d need to pay your co-pay or co-insurance, while the insurance plan pays the remaining balance. How much you’d actually pay depends on your insurance plan.

In a hypothetical example, let’s say you visit the ER under high severity and threat. You’re tested for the flu for both the A virus and B virus, and the doctors also run a CMP blood test.

If you’re uninsured, this could collectively cost you $1,295, out-of-pocket. If you have insurance, the full fee could cost $491, and you would only pay a portion if you’ve met your deductible. If your co-pay was 20% of the fee, it would cost $98.

Again, none of these tests may be run, but many more could also be run. It all comes down to what treatment and what medical coverage you have.

https://www.businessinsider.sg/how-...nt-cost-cdc-health-insurance-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

Checking yourself into the Emergency Room for flu symptoms is the exact reason why Emergency Room costs are so high.

It’s supposed to be for Emergencies yet people instead use it as a substitute for their primary care physician’s office. This just distracts Emergency staff from actual emergencies.
 
Wow If we were prepared on day one you guys would be saying that shows proof it was from a US source.

Really? So you meant to say the government is more concerned about what people will say rather than to prevent the spread of the virus? 6 weeks now, that excuse has long expired.

Oh Lol! Okay...We seem to be very obedient citizens listening to the government.

Wait, so you are now fine with government giving you false information?


No, it's not free as it is paying through insurance, and the insurance company not the doctor are the ones that approves these tests. And like I've said before, insurance company will set conditions to prevent large scale testing, not to mention those that are uninsured.
 
Really? So you meant to say the government is more concerned about what people will say rather than to prevent the spread of the virus? 6 weeks now, that excuse has long expired.

“People here” meant PDF. You guys would say the US government was 100% prepared even before day one so that proves it was a US conspiracy.

Wait, so you are now fine with government telling giving you false information?

What false information is that?

Can you read the page about the test being free.
 
“People here” meant PDF. You guys would say the US government was 100% prepared even before day one so that proves it was a US conspiracy.

And that's somehow an excuse for the lack of preparedness in even having enough test kits?

What false information is that?

Telling the public that they don't need to wear masks?

Can you read the page about the test being free.

Sure did, from the trade association of insurance company whose bottomline says more than what's published.
 
And that's somehow an excuse for the lack of preparedness in even having enough test kits?

Telling the public that they don't need to wear masks?


China didn’t even get their test kits up and running in volume until just a few weeks ago and you had plenty of samples of the virus right in front of you in your labs.

As for masks that is straight from WHO

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

  • If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection.
  • Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing
    • Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
    • If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly
 
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China didn’t even get their test kits up and running in volume until just a few weeks ago and you had plenty of samples of the virus right in front of you in your labs.

As for masks that is straight from WHO

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

  • If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection.
  • Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing
    • Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
    • If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly

A few weeks ago, the same weeks that US could have used to get the test kits ready.

The virus is already said to be asymptomatic transmissible. While WHO has been under fire for its lax attitude, you are finding US action flawless.
 
While WHO has been under fire for its lax attitude, you are finding US action flawless.

True, I agree the WHO is a bunch of clueless morons since they heaped praise on China’s excellent handling of the situation when we all know it was bungled badly...right?

We should give no credence to what they say.
 
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True, I agree the WHO is a bunch of clueless morons since they heaped praise on China’s excellent handling of the situation when we all know it was bungled badly...right?

We should give no credence to what they say.

By the end of this, we'll realize how much better China had handled the outbreak than most governments around the world, especially when compared to a nation whose president was calling it a Democrat hoax.
 
By the end of this, we'll realize how much better China had handled the outbreak than most governments around the world.

We sure will find out who handles it better..looks at the daily death count figures.
 
We sure will find out who handles it better..looks at the daily death count figures.
China was hit by an unknown virus, as you mentioned , at first we knew nothing about it, we didn't even have test kits neither did we know which drugs and machines might be useful, US now knew everything about this virus but still can't contain it from outbreaks, besides, US got 9 deaths in one day while the confirmed cases 120, the numbers don't add up, the cases must be vastly under reported, only a couple of days befoere US government still dismissed this virus as very low risk for Americans and took no containment measures at all, masks had proven to be a good way to protect one from infection in China while in US the government even asked the public not to wear a mask, can't believe how inept and irresponsible this government is.
 
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Um...there's only 9 deaths total in the US. Is this Chinese new math or something??
Plus 4 of those deaths were in the same building.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/03/coronavirus-live-updates-covid-19-california-cdc-numbers-deaths/4929223002/
Coronavirus live updates: 9th US. death is confirmed as WHO rejects pandemic
You guys have been talking about China's slow response ,mistakes and coverups to coronvirus , how do you assess US work on it?
 
You guys have been talking about China's slow response ,mistakes and coverups to coronvirus , how do you assess US work on it?

My assessment is the US worked well to alert people of China's slow response ,mistakes and coverups to coronvirus
 
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