Nuclear Saudis? ‘All options on the table’ Co-operate with Zionists

[Hussein]

give nuclear weapons to the most dangerous country in the world , damned ... people get crazy.
neither Iran or KSA should get ANY weapon: these countries are led by retards , very dangerous for humanity.

 

[raptor22]

give nuclear weapons to the most dangerous country in the world , damned ... people get crazy.
neither Iran or KSA should get ANY weapon: these countries are led by retards , very dangerous for humanity.

What about those who used a nuclear weapon in a real war against civilians? ain't they retards? or Orange agent in Vietnam , depleted uranium in Iraq and Afghanistan ... which country is the most dangerous?
by the way no one should possess nukes ...

Again honey, there were many militias in history with much much less arms, lands and resources than Huthis who did much better than Huthis against much stronger armies than Saudi Arabia.

That means Saudi Army is very capable and strong.

The war began about four months ago, Saudi Arabia accomplished:

1- Eliminating Huthis military assets and resources that could harm KSA.
2- Preventing them from taking over Yemen.
3- Cut them out from Iran.
4- Giving the initiative to the local resistance.

It's a war, and it could take a while but for sure the legitimate side will control Yemen at the end. There is no room for failure.

Yeap Saudi Army is very capable and strong ...

 

[The Last of us]

What a joke

A country that can't even manufacture a spoon is talking about nukes. Even assuming their American masters allowed them to pursue nuclear technology and helped them, it will still take them minimum a decade to get the enrichment capability. But you are a fool if you think the American will allow these wahabis to develop such technology. A few sanctions and they're finished.

They think nuclear weapons technology is like their suicide bombers that they can just buy with their oil money.

They don't have the brains for such technology and nor will they be allowed to get the technology from the outside.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Talking about houthis right and supporting dictator at another place .bloody munafiqs

Well we are honnest about what we want .
And which dictator you are talking about ? The one who reside in Manama ?

Intrestingly non of the ones we support asked for foreign soldier to occupy their country, but when it come to the other party, well lets not talk of it.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Well we are honnest about what we want .
And which dictator you are talking about ? The one who reside in Manama ?

Intrestingly non of the ones we support asked for foreign soldier to occupy their country, but when it come to the other party, well lets not talk of it.

lame excuse man . iran too have double face

 

[Hack-Hook]

lame excuse man . iran too have double face

We are clear anout both of our face .
The arab members here several month ago were claiminh houthis are more sunni than shia . They claimed they are the same as people of ksa and then suddenly they become rawafidh and their blood become mobah in just one night.

 

[macnurv]

So Saudis are openly asking Israel for help against Iran, and here you thought they would have learned some lesson from history. But its not a breaking news, they also gave support to Israeli idea of bombing Iranian nuclear installations by allowing Israeli jets to fly over it territory. Its a bad idea, no matter from which angle you look from.

We are clear anout both of our face .

I am sorry, Iranians are as big of hypocrites as Saudis, and if there are two countries that can be thanked for the current mess in middle east, those countries would be Iran and KSA. On one hand Iran supported Al-Maliki's sectarian government and trained militias that committed genocides of Sunnis, yet state that Houthis are some rag tag barefoot force, which they are not, and let us not forget Syria.
The thing is both KSA and Iran are fighting over influence in ME, and both countries are responsible for the current mess ME is in, great work guys.

 

[Hack-Hook]

So Saudis are openly asking Israel for help against Iran, and here you thought they would have learned some lesson from history. But its not a breaking news, they also gave support to Israeli idea of bombing Iranian nuclear installations by allowing Israeli jets to fly over it territory. Its a bad idea, no matter from which angle you look from.




I am sorry, Iranians are as big of hypocrites as Saudis, and if there are two countries that can be thanked for the current mess in middle east, those countries would be Iran and KSA. On one hand Iran supported Al-Maliki's sectarian government and trained militias that committed genocides of Sunnis, yet state that Houthis are some rag tag barefoot force, which they are not, and let us not forget Syria.
The thing is both KSA and Iran are fighting over influence in ME, and both countries are responsible for the current mess ME is in, great work guys.

Well first of all we didnt arm maliki government. We provided iraq with some economical aid at his time . And provided some arm to the people who fight ISIS and if by sunni you mean ISIS well its very hard for me to consider them as sunni.
And houthis are one rag tag but very motivated group its yemen army who control the big guns .and guess syria is the prime example of why I said both of our face is clear and the same.

 

[macnurv]

Well first of all we didnt arm maliki government. We provided iraq with some economical aid at his time . And provided some arm to the people who fight ISIS and if by sunni you mean ISIS well its very hard for me to consider them as sunni.
And houthis are one rag tag but very motivated group its yemen army who control the big guns .and guess syria is the prime example of why I said both of our face is clear and the same.

Let me repeat myself, I stated Al-Maliki's sectarian government was supported and controlled by Tehran and the Shia militias which were involved in massacre of Sunnis were also supported by Tehran. I am sorry its only been 1 year since ISIS proper came into existence, so please do not fabricate stories. The marginalization of Sunnis lead to support for sunni insurgency, Iran is not as innocent here.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Let me repeat myself, I stated Al-Maliki's sectarian government was supported and controlled by Tehran and the Shia militias which were involved in massacre of Sunnis were also supported by Tehran. I am sorry its only been 1 year since ISIS proper came into existence, so please do not fabricate stories. The marginalization of Sunnis lead to support for sunni insurgency, Iran is not as innocent here.

Are you sure the shia group that were massacring sunnis were controlled by iran ?
Also did we vote in iraq election ?
And who were the people who killed more than 100 shia in daily bases around 2006? You expect in such situation all shia group stay calm.

 

[bozorgmehr]

I am sorry, Iranians are as big of hypocrites as Saudis, and if there are two countries that can be thanked for the current mess in middle east, those countries would be Iran and KSA. On one hand Iran supported Al-Maliki's sectarian government and trained militias that committed genocides of Sunnis, yet state that Houthis are some rag tag barefoot force, which they are not, and let us not forget Syria.
The thing is both KSA and Iran are fighting over influence in ME, and both countries are responsible for the current mess ME is in, great work guys.

Is your cranial space up for rent? There are no angels out there. That's true. But only a mental midget would use that truism to blur all distinction between everyone's behaviour.

The direction of the enmity, violence and hatred has for the most part been very one-sided. People in Iran made a revolution in 1979 to get rid of a foreign imposed dictator. And guess what happened next? As soon as they felt we didn't have a military to kick their teeth in, most of the Arab countries put their resources together and invaded us. Was that our fault as well? We still have our people coughing up chunks of their longs and slowly dying in a corner of a hospital 25 years later, because of all the chemical and biological weapons they poured over us. We could have responded in kind. But we didn't.

As soon as these two-legged animals have an opportunity, they go into action and do whatever they can to promote religious and ethnic hatred against Iran. Their hatred of us is profound and as unreasonable as a Bedouin blood feud. They can't even bear to see a historic name on a small body of water. They do their level best to make that disappear.

Saddam did the most inhumane and barbaric tortures and crimes against Shias, with the full blessing of the Wahabi shiekhs. Nobody ever said a word, until he started threatening these same fat shiekhs. As soon as he was taken down, these people and their ilk started blowing up crowded shia bazars and mosques, murdering dozens of shias on an almost daily basis. As though the Shias have upset the god-given right of the Sunnis to lord over them. It disgusts me when I see people expressing surprise when Shia mosques are blown up nowadays. As though this hasn't been a regular occurrence since a long time and they don't remember the most historic Shia mosques being blown up in Najaf, not once, but twice. So the Shias had to defend themselves, and the attacks stopped. And that has become the great Sunni genocide, in the minds of sectarian simpletons. Yet these very same Sunnis feel comfortable taking refuge in fully shia areas, because they know no harm will come to them. But I don't see any shias moving to Anbar province anytime soon.

And now Iran and the US are coming to a negotiated settlement of some of their differences. And the Saudis are going into a frenzy of insecurity and jealousy. They go on a bombing rampage of one the poorest and most defenseless countries in the world. And they blame Iran for it. And despite the evidence that Iran asked the Houthis to stand down, there are imbeciles with a religious bent who will believe them and will draw parallels between Iran and Saudi Arabia. And nothing I say in my lifetime will change that. Rationality and critical thinking are not exactly the strong points of the Muslim 'Umma'. But the truth needs to be laid out for the fairer minds to see and compare for themselves. And that may one day provide the way out of the mess our region is in.

 

[macnurv]

Is your cranial space up for rent? There are no angels out there. That's true. But only a mental midget would use that truism to blur all distinction between everyone's behaviour.

Interesting making demeaning statements and rationalizing non-sense to propagate your POV, hardly a new trend.
But lets see what else you accuse others of while handing a clean slate to yourself.

The direction of the enmity, violence and hatred has for the most part been very one-sided. People in Iran made a revolution in 1979 to get rid of a foreign imposed dictator. And guess what happened next? As soon as they felt we didn't have a military to kick their teeth in, most of the Arab countries put their resources together and invaded us. Was that our fault as well? We still have our people coughing up chunks of their longs and slowly dying in a corner of a hospital 25 years later, because of all the chemical and biological weapons they poured over us. We could have responded in kind. But we didn't.

As soon as these two-legged animals have an opportunity, they go into action and do whatever they can to promote religious and ethnic hatred against Iran. Their hatred of us is profound and as unreasonable as a Bedouin blood feud. They can't even bear to see a historic name on a small body of water. They do their level best to make that disappear.

All the history of 3 Iranian revolutions in one paragraph, and a simplistic view that they hate us for what we are, that is hardly ever the case. One thing I agree with you was the behavior of pan arab nationalistic forces after 1979 Iranian revolution and there is no denying use of chemical weapons by Saddam.
I can also tell you that your hatred for them is pretty much at the same level as the ones you accused, the despise and disgust is evident clearly from your post.

Saddam did the most inhumane and barbaric tortures and crimes against Shias, with the full blessing of the Wahabi shiekhs. Nobody ever said a word, until he started threatening these same fat shiekhs. As soon as he was taken down, these people and their ilk started blowing up crowded shia bazars and mosques, murdering dozens of shias on an almost daily basis. As though the Shias have upset the god-given right of the Sunnis to lord over them. It disgusts me when I see people expressing surprise when Shia mosques are blown up nowadays. As though this hasn't been a regular occurrence since a long time and they don't remember the most historic Shia mosques being blown up in Najaf, not once, but twice. So the Shias had to defend themselves, and the attacks stopped. And that has become the great Sunni genocide, in the minds of sectarian simpletons. Yet these very same Sunnis feel comfortable taking refuge in fully shia areas, because they know no harm will come to them. But I don't see any shias moving to Anbar province anytime soon.

Again you're simplifying a very complicated situation and trying to portray shias as the innocents one here and acting only in self defence. Committing mass murder and supporting death squads hardly qualifies as self defense, and no matter which way you spin it, the truth remains unchanged. Iran supported and propped up militias which only further the divide in Iraq and marginalized Sunnis. How Baghdad responded to grievances of Sunni arab tribes, was same as Saddam did with Shias, send the army to kill.
Don't sell your snake oil about the inherent superior morality of Shia led government in Baghdad.

And now Iran and the US are coming to a negotiated settlement of some of their differences. And the Saudis are going into a frenzy of insecurity and jealousy. They go on a bombing rampage of one the poorest and most defenseless countries in the world. And they blame Iran for it. And despite the evidence that Iran asked the Houthis to stand down, there are imbeciles with a religious bent who will believe them and will draw parallels between Iran and Saudi Arabia. And nothing I say in my lifetime will change that. Rationality and critical thinking are not exactly the strong points of the Muslim 'Umma'. But the truth needs to be laid out for the fairer minds to see and compare for themselves. And that may one day provide the way out of the mess our region is in.

How naive of me, Saudis shouldn't go haywire because Iran, their perceived enemy is taking control of Houthis to use them as a leverage against Saudis.
There is no simple way to address the mess ME is in, all sides are to blame. There is no black and white here, instead whole lot of grey. I am not a supporter of Wahhabism, in my opinion that it is the cancer plaguing Islam and muslims but at the same time I am no fan of Iranian version of Islam mixed with Persian nationalism. Does Iran have the right to pursue nuclear technology, Yes but so does KSA. US handed Iraq to Iran on a platter when they removed Saddam, and the Gulf countries will not allow Iran to grow any more powerful but I don't think they can do much about it. And let us not forget Israel which is keen to start a new major war in ME.

 

[bozorgmehr]

I give you historical facts. You give me feelings...

You seem to get the cause and effect wrong. Yes, the Shia did eventually have to resort to nasty methods against their Sunni compatriots. But that wasn't just because they had been put to the rack by them for the previous few decades. The more immediate reason was that they were being murdered by their hundreds in their souqs, bazaars and mosques. So there were people killed on both sides. There was forced segregation along sectarian lines. But the bombings and the attacks stopped. So cry me a river. What did you expect Iraq to be after so many decades of brutality, Switzerland? It was always going to be nasty.

But this is not a chicken and egg story. The brutality, the hatred, the animus has a direction. And in most cases it is coming from one side.

And if you don't like the Iranian version of Islam, then get in line. I personally don't like any version of Islam or any of the Abrahamic religions for that matter, since in my view they take an overly legal view of life and lead you away from the essence of god. But what has that got to do with why the Saudis/Wahabis consider us their enemy? What have we concretely done to these people, to justify so much hatred and hostile actions from day one? Can yo u explain that to me?