Nuclear platforms to offer ‘military edge’ in South China Sea

[AlyxMS]

You are such a retard!
Even if one of your floating nuclear bombs is sunk, probably killing 100 Chinese, do you want to kill 100 millions in retaliation?

I don't know if you are doing this deliberately or you just didn't understand what he said.

Let me try to clear things out a bit.

If Vietnamese military attacked a ship like this, which is a nuclear reactor, it is the equivalent of using WMD in war as damaged reactors can leak radioactive materials that may affect millions of lives.

If Vietnamese military did something that is equivalent of using WMDs, then there's no moral obligation to stop China from using WMDs. Hence the "Vietnam will be wiped out".
(Which I disagree. My reasoning for disagreeing follows.)

Though it is extremely unlikely that China will use WMDs. Because the two things can't compare. People suffering from radiated water would be a indirect effect from Vietnamese attack. But if, say China dropped a tactical nuke at Hanoi, the casualties would be directly linked to the Chinese. It would be bad for public opinion and everything.

 

[Beast]

I don't remember of anyone of Viet posters ever threatening wipe out China. You seem to be an ultranationalist. What do you think if one of us promote unleash nuclear attack on China?


Technology is progressing for sure. However the most critical part of the whole process is human being. People make mistakes.

Becos vietnam dont have the ability to wipe out a China.

While China has the abilities to wipe out 10 vietnam. See the differences?

 

[TaiShang]

Nuclear power important in China's future energy mix
Xinhua, July 17, 2016

Nuclear power will play an important role in China's future energy mix for emission reduction and economic growth, said a report issued on Friday.

China is ready to undergo a nuclear power revolution, with a targeted annual approval rate of six to eight new reactors under the 13th Five Year Plan, said the report on China's nuclear energy issued by the China Energy Fund Committee (CEFC), a non-governmental and non-profit organization based in China's Hong Kong.

In 2015, China has 24 nuclear reactors under construction, more than one third of the world's total at this stage, said Xiaoyong Huang, one of the authors of the report and president of the Graduate School of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

"Although there are different understandings and voices to the nuclear constructions in China, we still believe it is quite essential and necessary for China to choose nuclear power," said Huang. "We have three reasons."

One reason is that nuclear power is a comparatively clean energy which can help China protect its environment and realize its emission reduction goal.

It also has great significance to China's energy security and economic growth, Huang said. Right now China imports large amount of oil and gas, and compared with other clean energy like wind and solar nuclear, nuclear energy is much more economic and stable.

Moreover, there is great market potential for China's nuclear development and it can also help promote China's export of advanced manufactured equipment.

"Currently just above 3 percent of entire electricity in China are from nuclear generation. This level is quite low compared with the world level which is 16 percent," said Huang.

The report was praised by other foreign experts for providing a comprehensive analysis of nuclear power and its role in China.

"It does a superior job by doing this report which tells you all of the challenges to nuclear energy development in China, the opportunities, the risks, the costs. I am sure it's a good reading," said Robert McFarlane, co-founder of United States Energy Security Council.

 

[xunzi]

You are such a retard!

How many times Vietnam and China went to war?

15 times or more?

It is an understanding, any confrontation if occurs, should be either time limited or clear in scope. Never thratening any party with a total holocaust.

It is a about a proper response and retaliation for any party. You can call it the code of war conduct.

Even if one of your floating nuclear bombs is sunk, probably killing 100 Chinese, do you want to kill 100 millions in retaliation?

If so, you are the greatest retard on this planet.

If your thought has the majority among chinese, then it is a new game.

WE will treat you as a terrorist regime if you dare to attack a nuclear facility.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You are such a retard!

How many times Vietnam and China went to war?

15 times or more?

It is an understanding, any confrontation if occurs, should be either time limited or clear in scope. Never thratening any party with a total holocaust.

It is a about a proper response and retaliation for any party. You can call it the code of war conduct.

Even if one of your floating nuclear bombs is sunk, probably killing 100 Chinese, do you want to kill 100 millions in retaliation?

If so, you are the greatest retard on this planet.

If your thought has the majority among chinese, then it is a new game.

Well what @xunzi said is correct, attacking a nuclear reactor is basically equivalent to a nuclear attack. Which will allow us to respond with nuclear weapons.

I don't think that will be necessary though, since the radiation fallout will mostly affect Vietnam itself (look at the location of the Paracel islands).

But there will have to be a serious military response regardless, otherwise it will be known there is no penalty for attacking Chinese nuclear facilities? In fact the penalty should be overwhelmingly large, to prevent any such future incidents.

 

[gambit]

If Vietnamese military attacked a ship like this, which is a nuclear reactor, it is the equivalent of using WMD in war as damaged reactors can leak radioactive materials that may affect millions of lives.

This mean from now on, the PDF Chinese cannot argue that using the DF-21D to attack a US nuclear carrier is a conventional attack. A US super carrier is nuclear powered.

Carry on...

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

This mean from now on, the PDF Chinese cannot argue that using the DF-21D to attack a US nuclear carrier is a conventional attack. A US super carrier is nuclear powered.

Carry on...

It is a military platform, not a civilian nuclear reactor.

 

[gambit]

It is a military platform, not a civilian nuclear reactor.

Irrelevant. The original argument that I cited was absurd to start.

 

[Viet]

Becos vietnam dont have the ability to wipe out a China.

While China has the abilities to wipe out 10 vietnam. See the differences?

True. We don't have that capacity yet. But if we want, we will have it by supporting your enemies, stationing offensive nuclear missiles on our sole or develop it by ourselves.

I don't know if you are doing this deliberately or you just didn't understand what he said.

Let me try to clear things out a bit.

If Vietnamese military attacked a ship like this, which is a nuclear reactor, it is the equivalent of using WMD in war as damaged reactors can leak radioactive materials that may affect millions of lives.

If Vietnamese military did something that is equivalent of using WMDs, then there's no moral obligation to stop China from using WMDs. Hence the "Vietnam will be wiped out".
(Which I disagree. My reasoning for disagreeing follows.)

Though it is extremely unlikely that China will use WMDs. Because the two things can't compare. People suffering from radiated water would be a indirect effect from Vietnamese attack. But if, say China dropped a tactical nuke at Hanoi, the casualties would be directly linked to the Chinese. It would be bad for public opinion and everything.

Have you all Chinese idiots thought for a second why the hell would we attack a civil nuclear boat close to our home?

WE will treat you as a terrorist regime if you dare to attack a nuclear facility.

We have no history of doing such stupid thing. In contrast China has a long history of terrorism, genocide. Remember raging wars in other countries, exporting revolution, supporting mass killing. All forgotten?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Have you all Chinese idiots thought for a second why the hell would we attack a civil nuclear boat close to our home?

Uh, you clearly have not read the thread, it was your fellow Vietnamese countryman who said so, on Page 2 here:

will look like this.

First you guys boast you will attack our oil rig, now you want to attack our floating nuclear reactors?

That will force China to react with severe military force, otherwise the whole world will know you can attack Chinese power stations without penalty? Even if we don't WANT to retaliate, we will be forced to do so, and with overwhelming force.

Even despite the fact that it will be Vietnam who suffers the most radioactive fallout due to the location of the Paracel islands we'll still have to respond.

 

[Tiqiu]

Have you all Chinese idiots thought for a second why the hell would we attack a civil nuclear boat close to our home?

Does "we" mean Germany or Vietnam?
Last news we had was the communist government of Vietnam was busy in arresting those Vietnamese protesters against China. The Vietnamese government would not do as you advocated, for it knows attacking those nuclear-powered boats means extermination of the Vietnamese race.

 

[Viet]

Does "we" mean Germany or Vietnam?
Last news we had was the communist government of Vietnam was busy in arresting those Vietnamese protesters against China. The Vietnamese government would not do as you advocated, for it knows attacking those nuclear-powered boats means extermination of the Vietnamese race.

I can tell you Vietnam only cares of what Chinese rulers think. Not little Chinese folks. You are less worth than a penny. Chinese rulers sacrifice millions after millions Chinese lives for a goal, sometimes for an ideology sometimes for nothing. Do you really thing Xi Jinping will exterminate Vietnam because of 100 worthless Chinese lives?

No even 10 millions Chinese die, he does not care.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I can tell you Vietnam only cares of what Chinese rulers think. Not little Chinese folks. You are less worth than a penny. Chinese rulers sacrifice millions after millions Chinese lives for a goal, sometimes for an ideology sometimes for nothing. Do you really thing Xi Jinping will exterminate Vietnam because of 100 worthless Chinese lives?

No even 10 millions Chinese die, he does not care.

If you really think that, then fire a missile at one of our newly built islands.

And I wouldn't worry about nukes. Vietnam's "mother river" already originates in China's Yunnan province, that might be more of a concern for you guys.

 

[TaiShang]

I can tell you Vietnam only cares of what Chinese rulers think. Not little Chinese folks.

Hence we have nuclear triad and second strike capability.

This means that China's government, since the mid-50s, has ensured the safety of its people and the inviolability of its sovereignty. It got the highest global seat in the universe by removing KMT from there.

It became world's largest trading nation, unseating the US. It is the world's largest energy consumer. Largest auto market. Largest green investor. Largest tourist destination.

What has Vietnam done for its people? You have half of your people hating your regime.

PH got the pre-paid ruling awarded, but nothing has changed. Even VN is laughing behind their back and arresting several unruly Vietnamese. You have left PH out in the cold.

I will not despise VCP, because, we know, VCP knows where the actual threat to their authority lies, and that is not definitely from China.

 

[Tiqiu]

I can tell you Vietnam only cares of what Chinese rulers think. Not little Chinese folks. You are less worth than a penny. Chinese rulers sacrifice millions after millions Chinese lives for a goal, sometimes for an ideology sometimes for nothing. Do you really thing Xi Jinping will exterminate Vietnam because of 100 worthless Chinese lives?

No even 10 millions Chinese die, he does not care.

The government of the country you are so rooted for does not share your views and certainly not listen to you. So you can either bring a regime change to your beloved country first or simply stay quiet on the sidelines. Attacking those boats is only your dream.