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Now India buys BULLET TRAINS - so why does it need £300 million of YOUR foreign aid cash?

Just make a Aircraft carrier before becoming the sole super power and defeating the US

UK is going to get their aircraft carriers soon
Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers

US will commission their newest toy soon as well

You shall read more Chinese defense news. :enjoy:

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Soviet is never defeated by USA military. Soviet Union is destroyed without even a single shot by USA but by US dollar. China learn the same trick and the history will repeat and haunt USA. USA meet their match. Mighty Chinese. :enjoy:
 
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:lol: How does crushing vietnam will benefit us when Vietnam continue show friendship towards China?

Yes such friendship:

Behind Vietnam's Anti-China Riots, a Tinderbox of Wider Grievances - WSJ

2014 Vietnam anti-China protests - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnam animosity to China is well known world over now. Good business for China's opponents and neutrals.

So by your theory, India must start invade China and conquer China to prove India is on top of China, if you are not doing it. India will always be second to China, isn't it?

No I didn't propose any theory of the sort. Its your CCP troll defence forum members that kept saying Vietnam is going to be invaded and finished within a year after the major anti-China riots happened....and they have called and predicted it and analysed it many times....and each time nothing happened :D.

Now if Indian defence forum people are all making such things about invading and crushing China...then you have a point. But they don't.

Whereas Chinese are always on about how they are going to finally crush and conquer Vietnam....its always in the future...and it always never happens.

As for spratly island, our installation and building is still continue while US failed to stop our building. So by your theory, US is considered failure from a strategic point since Obama ask us to stop and we refused?

Every single time a foreign ship or aircraft passes over chinese proclaimed territorial islands and waters without Chinese permission is a big slap to China's claim. The fact puny countries have occupied all kinds of islands that China says is theirs and China does nothing about it shows China is just a big soft Panda.

Maybe you should ram an aircraft into a US plane again to send a message...just try not to lose your pilot this time. At least it will be doing something rather than making some words.

But keep building up the islands you have put a presence on if it makes you feel better.....all the while looking at the other islands occupied by other countries and shaking your fist at them....lol. Do you know how silly China looks when doing this?
 
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No I didn't propose any theory of the sort. Its your CCP troll defence forum members that kept saying Vietnam is going to be invaded and finished within a year after the major anti-China riots happened....and they have called and predicted it and analysed it many times....and each time nothing happened :D.

Now if Indian defence forum people are all making such things about invading and crushing China...then you have a point. But they don't.

Whereas Chinese are always on about how they are going to finally crush and conquer Vietnam....its always in the future...and it always never happens.

In modern times most countries are unwilling to go to war unless a decisive victory is assured. If China invades Taiwan ,Japan or Vietnam a blood bath is assured and even victory is like a defeat, it could even end up destroying the support for the Chinese communist party.

So most of thoese threats are empty
 
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Yes such friendship:

Behind Vietnam's Anti-China Riots, a Tinderbox of Wider Grievances - WSJ

2014 Vietnam anti-China protests - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnam animosity to China is well known world over now. Good business for China's opponents and neutrals.

You are so smart. This riot is in 2014 and latest President XI visit of Vietnam is in 2015? Are you rolling back history to prove your point in future? Latest sentiment from vietnamese is , they are willing to make peace with China.

No I didn't propose any theory of the sort. Its your CCP troll defence forum members that kept saying Vietnam is going to be invaded and finished within a year after the major anti-China riots happened....and they have called and predicted it and analysed it many times....and each time nothing happened :D.

Now if Indian defence forum people are all making such things about invading and crushing China...then you have a point. But they don't.

Whereas Chinese are always on about how they are going to finally crush and conquer Vietnam....its always in the future...and it always never happens.

Again, you are so smart to use a few trolling Chinese forumer to prove the point of whole Chinese foreign policy? There shows your naivety.Care to show me a official Chinese statement from CPC to view crushing vietnamese can prove China superiority?

Every single time a foreign ship or aircraft passes over chinese proclaimed territorial islands and waters without Chinese permission is a big slap to China's claim. The fact puny countries have occupied all kinds of islands that China says is theirs and China does nothing about it shows China is just a big soft Panda.

Maybe you should ram an aircraft into a US plane again to send a message...just try not to lose your pilot this time. At least it will be doing something rather than making some words.

But keep building up the islands you have put a presence on if it makes you feel better.....all the while looking at the other islands occupied by other countries and shaking your fist at them....lol. Do you know how silly China looks when doing this?

China 'must stop' land reclamation in South China Sea - Obama - BBC News

See how selective in your theory while ignoring others action? So by your theory , USA is a paper tiger becos they want to stop Chinese building on spratly island and yet it was ignored? So what shall USA do? Land a marine unit and stop those building or send in real bomber to drop a few bombs? We are waiting and until now USA by your standard shall be a paper tiger. :D
 
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The dream is not far off. It defy US warning and embrace China. A very smart move by British. Choosing a rising power over a declining power is to ensure the survival of UK.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d33fed8a-d3a1-11e4-a9d3-00144feab7de.html#axzz3umdI0fIJ


lmao, spouting imperialist jargon are we now.


UK isn't a dog to the U.S so why should it be a dog to China???

China has it's own problems. China takes advantage of 3rd world developing countries.

what are you going to do finance and build Britain HSR? sure why not if the deal is good, but stop spouting your egotistical posts


come on now. stop making this a competition between a declining superpower and a so called superpower :tsk:


you still got hundreds of millions of peasants living on a few dollars a day in Great China and choking on pollution as well :whistle::wave:
 
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You are so smart. This riot is in 2014 and latest President XI visit of Vietnam is in 2015? Are you rolling back history to prove your point in future? Latest sentiment from vietnamese is , they are willing to make peace with China.



Again, you are so smart to use a few trolling Chinese forumer to prove the point of whole Chinese foreign policy? There shows your naivety.Care to show me a official Chinese statement from CPC to view crushing vietnamese can prove China superiority?



China 'must stop' land reclamation in South China Sea - Obama - BBC News

See how selective in your theory while ignoring others action? So by your theory , USA is a paper tiger becos they want to stop Chinese building on spratly island and yet it was ignored? So what shall USA do? Land a marine unit and stop those building or send in real bomber to drop a few bombs? We are waiting and until now USA by your standard shall be a paper tiger. :D

Ok you seem to be more of a moderate than other forumers. I think we have gone off topic enough now....we will let everyone else decide for themselves.
 
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lmao, spouting imperialist jargon are we now.


UK isn't a dog to the U.S so why should it be a dog to China???

China has it's own problems. China takes advantage of 3rd world developing countries.

what are you going to do finance and build Britain HSR? sure why not if the deal is good, but stop spouting your egotistical posts


come on now. stop making this a competition between a declining superpower and a so called superpower :tsk:


you still got hundred of millions of peasants living on a few dollars a day in Great China and choking on pollution as well :whistle::wave:

I may sound crude but its blunt reality :enjoy: US is declining everyday with your politician foolish policy. Dumb meddling in dangerous middle east policy. Stupid overspending military expenditure that can actually go into more research, infrastructure investment and education reform.
 
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Stop whining about India and its problems !



UK foreign aid: UKIP anger as India buys bullet trains whilst receiving British cash | UK | News | Daily Express

BRITAIN’S foreign aid madness descended into further farce today after it emerged that India is set to splash out on state-of-the-art BULLET TRAINS - despite receiving £300 million a year from UK taxpayers.

By NICK GUTTERIDGE
PUBLISHED: 08:42, Mon, Dec 14, 2015 | UPDATED: 09:21, Mon, Dec 14, 2015

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India is buying new bullet trains despite receiving UK foreign aid cash
The booming Asian powerhouse will blow £10 billion on the 200mph trains, which will leave Britain’s decrepit locomotives trailing in their wake, even though the country is supposedly so poor it still needs aid from the UK Government.

As a result Indians will soon be able to zoom 325 miles across their country in just two hours, whilst commuters back in Britain continue to pay sky high prices for slow and unpredictable services along an ancient rail network in desperate need of modernisation.

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The revelations will provoke yet more uncomfortable questions for David Cameron, who hasstubbornly stuck to his commitment to spend 0.7% of GDP on foreign aid in the face of fierce criticism.

They also farcically mean that India, whose railways were built by the British during the Colonial era, is in line to receive a much-needed network upgrade ahead of the country which invented the locomotive.

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The state-of-the-art train can go 200mph
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Britain's railways are overcrowded and decrepit in comparison
Bruce Williamson of passenger campaign group Railfuture raged: “Britain exported the railways to India and the rest of the world. Now we’re lagging behind.

“There’s a certain irony that India could now overtake Britain with modern high speed rail.”

He added: “The two biggest gripes for passengers in this country are the level of fares and overcrowding.

“British passengers are paying sky high fares yet suffering chronic overcrowding. Passenger numbers are growing rapidly but our railways are not keeping pace with demand. We’re constantly playing catch-up.

“Passenger numbers have doubled in the last 20 years. But the number of stations and rail lines has not kept pace. Decisions take too long. Politicians don’t move fast enough.”

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi confirmed yesterday that his nation will buy the high-speed ’Shinkansen’ trains - known as bullet trains because of the mind-bending speech they can reach - from Japan.

They will run along a new 325-mile railway linking Mumbai on the country’s west coast to Ahmedabad to its north, and will cut journey times from the current eight hours to just two.

In contrast it takes British trains almost five hours to trundle the 400 miles from London to Edinburgh along our own creaking network.

Criticism of Britain’s foreign aid payments to India has been fierce in the face of the country’s rapidly expanding economy, which is growing by more than seven per cent a year.

The booming nation - home to 1.2 billion people - is currently building a fleet of aircraft carriers for its navy and even has its own space programme.

India is also planning to team up with Japan to build new nuclear power plants, prompting questions over why it still needs British cash.

At the same time, British public services are under huge financial pressure as George Osborne’s programme of austerity continues to bite.

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The revelations will pose awkward questions for David Cameron
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India has its own space programme but still gets British aid
What priorities does our government really have, as they certainly aren’t those of this country?

UKIP's Nathan Gill

UKIP development spokesman Nathan Gill told the Daily Mail: “Aircraft Carriers, space programme, bullet trains and £300 million per annum in UK aid is not bad really when you think about it.

“Pity our forces are strapped for cash, our trains are packed and creaking, we have pitiful investment in high tech research and huge areas of national life underfunded. What priorities does our government really have, as they certainly aren’t those of this country?”

Roger Ford, technology editor at Modern Railways magazine added: “I don’t know why we are giving aid to India when they are developing a space programme.

“India owns much of UK industry including Jaguar Land Rover and Tata steel.

“Now they are developing high speed bullet trains. Some people may think this odd. Where the money is going to come from for these trains I don’t know.”

Mr Modi announced the deal after talks with Japanese PM Shinzo Abe in Delhi.

India is growing at 7.4 percent a year, the most recent figures show, meaning its economy is outperforming China’s.

But Britain’s aid contributions to the country actually rose last year, growing by £10 million to £279 million meaning it is the second largest recipient of UK aid behind only Ethiopia.

Aid payments are due to stop at the end of this year, although Britain will still plough tens of millions of pounds into private ventures and “technical assistance” programmes helping the country build up its skills in the area of health and education.

A spokesman for the department for International Development said: “No DFID money is being spent on high speed trains in India.

“We are doing exactly what we said we would do back in 2012 — ending financial aid to India by the end of this year. Since 2011, DFID has cut aid to India by almost 40 per cent, saving the British taxpayer more than £300 million.”
 
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I believe Britain must settle their internal political debate without targeting projects developing countries undertake. It's your money spend it appropriately but it's high time British politicians stop firing from India's shoulder to score a brownie point at home.
 
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Arey Bhai please keep the money we don't want it, its only used to create trouble by retarted NGOs.
 
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I may sound crude but its blunt reality :enjoy: US is declining everyday with your politician foolish policy. Dumb meddling in dangerous middle east policy. Stupid overspending military expenditure that can actually go into more research, infrastructure investment and education reform.


and? you think I and everyone else doesn't know that :rofl: the Western world as a whole is crumbling, but do you see me on here spouting propaganda on how great the U.S is :disagree:

my point is the UK can make it's own decisions.

if they want to be China economic pet like Australia or Canada so be it. now like it's going to change much the way things are going.
 
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Arey Bhai please keep the money we don't want it, its only used to create trouble by retarted NGOs.
That's what makes it even worse. Cameron knows the money isn't needed makes no difference but he just wants to give it anyway because it makes them look "compassionate" and "caring" when it just makes them look stupid. Even countries as rich as Iceland still get some foreign aid.
I agree it's wrong to start lashing out at India but I think anger about foreign aid, when so many police and soldiers are losing their jobs, is justified.
 
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