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Doubt that it will work at such long ranges considering the powerful jamming suite of AWACS.Just imagine the power of that aesa radar on awac..should be able to disable the missile however if some jet manage to sneak near the awac and fire 4-5 R-77 at close distance or archer then they might have a chance.;
Nice Imagination! Btw you know anything about the FT-2000? The Chinese AWACS killer in which Pakistan was interested (As stated by many internet NEWS papers as early as 2008).
I have a question, Dont u ppl think that BVR threat is 'over rated'???
I remember seeing Dog Fights of History Channel it showed two(or three cant exactly remember) AIM-120s to shoot down a serbian MiG-29
then some times these million dollar missiles can prove to be a dud, recent reports about IAF inventory R-77s is a proof
moreover no pilot will ever fire a missile of million dollars without satisfying himself i mean until & unless pilot gets within good distance of enemy A/Cs e.g. if a BVRAAM has max range of say 90km so dont u think that pilot will like to fire when when enemy is at like 70km to ensure that maximum damage is done(this point might seem stupid though, its just a thought)
BVRAAMs will no doubt will be a factor in deciding air engagements but i still think that it will depend more on Dogfights....
How? If the F-35's very low observability work as intended, then how can firing several missiles at the same time be any better when target location is unknown?The IAF operates mostly Russian equipment and goes by their rulebook.
The Russian air-combat philosophy has been starkingly different from the American one.As always the Russians believe in numerical superiority...they apply this concept in their war planes too...the flankers have more missile pods than most western planes...the flankers carry more BVRAAMs than the western planes...the kill probability of missiles increases exponentially with the number of missiles fired...so while engaging a plane...a flaker would fire a salve of 2-3 missiles to get a kill probability of above 95%...and that is deadly.
there was a survey done by the Aussies where they compared the JSF with the flanker...now a JSF would fair very well against a flanker if they both followe identical moves...i.e firing the same salvo and stuff..as the JSF as everybody knows is a VLO a/c...but against a flanker firing a salvo 0f 2-3 BVR missiles...it's chances dimmed.
How? If the F-35's very low observability work as intended, then how can firing several missiles at the same time be any better when target location is unknown?
How? If the F-35's very low observability work as intended, then how can firing several missiles at the same time be any better when target location is unknown?
Short enough to be dead before you can do anything. That is the advantage of being VLO. And we never claimed to be invisible...Yet.Gambit...being VLO is not being invisible...a lower RCS would mean that your detectable range gets shortened significantly...
the RCS is but one factor in the radar range equation which you might be knowing by heart...
the other very important factor is a strong forward gain(true with the Bars)...
Infra-red? Target IR does not provide range estimation.IRST
Plasma 'stealth'? Debunked a long time ago.more over once PAKFA comes or they integrate Plasma clouding on MiG-35 then???
How can anyone make such a claim unless he has a functional 'stealth' aircraft to test against? Further...The Irbis is Passive AESA and is nowhere as capable of detecting US 'stealth' aircrafts as the Russians claimed. PESA is old news.JSF can carry 4 AMRAMMs right & here the "numerical superiority" thing can work pretty well plus more hard points on flankers n MiG & if JSF came down to WVR the F35 cant turn, cant climb and cant run
u know it cant I think if a su-35bm faces the f35 that would be a different story especially in Bvr. The irbis-e radar can track stealthy targets (rcs 0.01m^2 at 90km) so the flanker could see the F35 before the f35 could see it. (iam guessing) The F35 is stealthy but not as much as the f22, its about as stealthy. I dont know the RCS of the f35 btw
Short enough to be dead before you can do anything. That is the advantage of being VLO. And we never claimed to be invisible...Yet.
Hez trying to tell us that 'friendly kills' made by MKIs during Red Flag are no longer a problem for IAF isnt it Beckham??
May be MiG-21 Bisons can come fire on PAF jets in Pak air space & run away to do damage before real game starts (just a thought, bit stupid as well)
& if bisons succeeded in doing even a little damage it will be worth the price of R-77
Short enough to be dead before you can do anything. That is the advantage of being VLO. And we never claimed to be invisible...Yet.