Not a single Nishan e Haider has been awarded during Pakistan's war against terror. Why?

[RAMPAGE]

Our forces are fighting the most bloody war in the history of Pakistan and yet not a single Nishan e Haider been awarded.

Now why is that?

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

It takes a while for the applications to go up the chain, the claims to be verified.

Pakistan is close to total warfare, with it's military engaging in not only operations but' foreign policy, covert ops, two-front crises, re-evaluating doctrines. The time to sit down and write the heroics is a few minutes.

Even the current Nishan e Haider honorees were recognized years after their sacrifices.

Not comparing but, the US is still handing out Medal of Honor to soldiers all the way back to it's Civil War.

 

[Quwa]

Is there a reason why medals of valour for soldiers who die in combat are tiered at different levels? Why not one level?

 

[HAIDER]

Is there a reason why medals of valour for soldiers who die in combat are tiered at different levels? Why not one level?

Live and Die two different scenario. You live to tell your bravery , you die, so other tell your bravery.

Haider

 

[Quwa]

Live and Die two different scenario. You live to tell your bravery , you die, so other tell your bravery.

Haider

No I mean why are dead soldiers given different medals of recognition from one another? For example, not every dead soldier receives Nishan-e-Haider, why not? Does it have to do with circumstance, e.g. dying as a result of action that was in addition to your mission orders?

 

[Goenitz]

No I mean why are dead soldiers given different medals of recognition from one another? For example, not every dead soldier receives Nishan-e-Haider, why not? Does it have to do with circumstance, e.g. dying as a result of action that was in addition to your mission orders?

why gold medal/Laude/distinction is not awarded to every graduate. ???

anyway..i hv a Q.. that can NH be awarded to a veteran? not rule wise but armed forces policy wise... !!!!

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

No I mean why are dead soldiers given different medals of recognition from one another? For example, not every dead soldier receives Nishan-e-Haider, why not? Does it have to do with circumstance, e.g. dying as a result of action that was in addition to your mission orders?

They are recognized for going beyond the call of duty.

The Nishan-e-Haider can be awarded to all ranks of the Pakistani Military sacrificing their lives in acts of extraordinary courage in face of the enemy.

But I do see your point.

Pakistan doesn't have a habit of give out a lot of medals, most of the civilians ones are political.

Aitzaz Hasan only got a 'recognition' of his sacrifice, with Sitara-e-Shujaat. While business women, athletes, and singers usually get Hilal I Imtiaz.

 

[N/A]

To be frank all soldiers deserve a Nishan E Haider or Medal of Honor or whatever award. All serve their nation with valor, dedication and honor. Each soldier sacrifices his time to defend his nation's honor. Yes some soldiers sacrifices are greater than others, but a drop of water eventually becames a ocean. Without the smallest sacrifices the outcome may not be favorable. Just like all soldiers view defense day as everyday, the nations should view each soldier as a Nishan E Haider. Questioning the actions of soldiers undermines their heroic acts. Ghazi y Shaheed.

 

[graphican]

As per my info, nominations are made during the fight but they are always subjected to review, verification and at the end of a battle, these medals of bravery are rewarded. Since war is still going on, it is unlikely to be awarded to anybody.

 

[fatman17]

Our forces are fighting the most bloody war in the history of Pakistan and yet not a single Nishan e Haider been awarded.

Now why is that?

According to the militarys convoluted thinking WOT is not a declared war but a conflict or something like a military action therefore no shaheed is eligible for NH HJ SJ TJ instead medals like HBt SBt etc are being awarded. I've argued with honorable serving officers on this forum stating that the color of shed blood is the same for any military action be it declared war against another country or insurgency within the country.

 

[third eye]

According to the militarys convoluted thinking WOT is not a declared war but a conflict or something like a military action therefore no shaheed is eligible for NH HJ SJ TJ instead medals like HBt SBt etc are being awarded. I've argued with honorable serving officers on this forum stating that the color of shed blood is the same for any military action be it declared war against another country or insurgency within the country.

Does Pak not have equivalent medals for Gallantry in peace time like India does ?

The PVC's equivalent in peace time is the AC - Ashok Chakra & so on.

 

[Samandri]

Same question was on my mind. More than 5000 casualties and not a single Nishan-e-haider? should it not be good for morale of troops?

 

[fatman17]

According to a press release, on a summary initiated by the Ministry of Defence, the President has approved the Prime Minister's advice for grant of awards in the order of Basalat to 200 personnel of Pakistan Army, Pakistan Navy and Pakistan Air Force.

The President on another summary initiated by the Ministry of Defence, also approved the Prime Minister's advice for grant of awards in the Order of Imtiaz (Military) to 211 officers of Pakistan Army, Pakistan Navy and Pakistan Air Force on the occasion of Independence Day.

On another summary, the President approved the Prime Minister's advice for grant of awards in the Order of Khidmat (Military) to 671 personnel (Junior Commissioned Officers & below) of Pakistan Army, Navy, Air Force, Mujahid Force (MF), Defence Services Guards (DSG) and Civil Armed Forces (CAF).

Similarly, on a summary, the President also approved award of Imtiazi Sanad to 63 personnel of Pakistan Army on the occasion of Independence Day in recognition of their professionalism, bravery and loyalty to the duty.

 

[fatman17]

Does Pak not have equivalent medals for Gallantry in peace time like India does ?

The PVC's equivalent in peace time is the AC - Ashok Chakra & so on.

Sitara e basalat
Sitara e imtiaz
Imtiazi sanad equivalent to mention in despatches

 

[third eye]

Sitara e basalat
Sitara e imtiaz
Imtiazi sanad equivalent to mention in despatches

In which case its ok..

The highest gallantry award in most nations is given very very selectively .