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Northrop Grumman wins the Long Range Strike Bomber Contract

LaPlante: “We’re going to do something that, as far as we know, has never been done before on a major platform.”

As to what this "something" is, it's anyone guess

My guess is is that we won't see this thing into at least 2020. They awarded the B-2 contract in 81 and didn't release a public image until 88. So we just have to be patient...
The navies have always been interested in the concept of an 'arsenal ship'. The idea have always been conceptually tossed around but seemingly never got beyond the discussion on how to incorporate such a ship into the current doctrines.

In the old days, a bomber is exactly that -- a vehicle that delivers bombs.

Not only that, the bombs can only go one way -- down.

But given the development of 'smart' munitions that being 'smart' means smaller and more lethal, hence the delivery vehicle will be able to carry more of these things, I wonder if NG have something similar to the arsenal ship concept in their minds.
 
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They did confirm that it will have worldwide strike reach from the US. If that's without refueling, the engines must be incredible.

The B-2 is using a 30 year old design in the F118 (first run in 1980), so it's possible considering the advancement in engine design recently. With the range of the older B-52 and B-1, having a longer range with new engines for the LRSB isn't out of the imagination here.

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Could be looking at a new adaptive cycle engine, to maximize performance at different altitudes by adapting the engine's performance to improve fuel economy during all phases of the aircraft's flight time.

I'll let GE explain this one - GE Adaptive Cycle Engine | Variable Cycle Engine | Military | GE Aviation
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Northrop Grumman to Build Air Force Bomber — But Don’t Expect to See It Soon

Northrop Grumman will build the Air Force’s new stealth bomber, which will be one of the most futuristic planes ever built — and for a while, at least, among the most secret.

On Tuesday, the service announced the winner of the contract to develop the Long Range Strike-Bomber, a deal that includes options to buy the first five production lots, totaling 21 of a planned 100-plane fleet. The independent cost estimate for this development phase is $23.5 billion (in today’s dollars), and the Air Force is aiming to bring that down, said William LaPlante, the service’s acquisition head. Service officials have estimated the total value of the program at $80 billion.

The winner beat out a Boeing-Lockheed Martin team.

“The Long Range Strike-Bomber will support America’s defense strategy by forming the backbone of the Air Force’s future strike and deterrent capabilities,” Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said at a Pentagon briefing Tuesday announcing the winner.

The LRS-B, which will be the military’s first bomber since the B-2 was built in secret in the 1980s, is coming together under a similar veil of secrecy. On Tuesday, the Pentagon released an independent cost estimate of $564 million per aircraft ($511 million in 2010 dollars), down from an earlier estimate of $606 million ($550 million in 2010 dollars), but the actual budget remains classified. The Air Force declined even to release an artist’s conception from the winning bid.

“You can always argue it’s too classified or not classified enough, but the simple idea behind the classification of the program is we need to preserve, as long as we can, the advantage of what we’re doing so that adversaries can’t already be trying to build defenses against it,” LaPlante told reporters last Wednesday.

Some have called the plane the B-3, but Air Force officials said that has not been decided yet. Even when the plane flies at an airshow for the first time, it, like most military aircraft, will have certain equipment that will remain classified.

LaPlante dropped just one hint: “We’re going to do something that, as far as we know, has never been done before on a major platform.”

Over the past four years, the Air Force has spent $1.9 billion on the secret bomber project, Lt. Gen. Arnold Bunch, the Air Force’s military deputy for acquisition, said.

“As the company that developed and delivered the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber, we look forward to providing the Air Force with a highly-capable and affordable next-generation Long Range Strike-Bomber,” Wes Bush, chairman, CEO and president of Northrop Grumman, said in a statement.

Boeing and Lockheed, in a joint statement, said they were disappointed with the decision. ”We are interested in knowing how the competition was scored in terms of price and risk, as we believe that the combination of Boeing and Lockheed Martin offers unparalleled experience, capability and resources for this critically important recapitalization program.”

For the Air Force, the selection of Northrop Grumman marks a huge milestone. A decade ago, the service had hoped to have a new bomber battle-ready by 2018. But Pentagon officials decided that such a plane required so much new and unproven technology that it was more likely to be canceled than reach the battlefield.

“I stopped one new bomber program [in 2009] because I thought it was headed down the wrong path,” former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said during a rare appearance in Washington last week.

Two years later, Gates approved the LRS-B.

“I said … you’ve got to design it so you buy at least 100,” the former defense secretary told senators. “And … you have to start with technology that you understand.”

That was an attempt to avoid repeating the B-2’s fate: as technology-development costs mounted, the service’s 100-bomber purchase was cut to 21, and the per-plane price soared past $2 billion.

With the LRS-B, Air Force officials say they are budgeting for 100 planes and will keep the production cost of each bomber at $550 million in 2010 dollars. (That’s $606 million today.) That doesn’t include development costs. The Air Force’s cost estimates peg the program at nearly $80 billion. Todd Harrison, a budget analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, projects the entire project to have consumed $111 billion when it finishes 25 years from now.

The plane will initially use mature or existing technologies, which should forestall the kinds of cost increases and delays that have afflicted the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and other programs.

“Just because they’re existing and mature doesn’t mean that they’re in the open. It doesn’t mean that any of you even know about them,” LaPlante said.

Still, the plane’s most valuable asset is likely not any single whiz-bang gadget, but its modular operating system. The bomber is meant to be the Linux of aircraft, easily and cheaply upgradeable over the next three decades.

“You deliberately make the first version of it have the basic capabilities that you want and you have all the hooks in there and you have plans to upgrade the next version of it,” LaPlante said.

And a solid plan for easy upgrades helps stave off the impulse to goldplate the initial aircraft. As Gates said, the new bomber “needs to be something that we know we can get off the ground for a reasonable price and then as new technologies become available, integrate them into that system.”

Northrop Grumman to Build Air Force Bomber — But Don’t Expect to See It Soon - Defense One
 
With the LRS-B, Air Force officials say they are budgeting for 100 planes and will keep the production cost of each bomber at $550 million in 2010 dollars. (That’s $606 million today.) That doesn’t include development costs. The Air Force’s cost estimates peg the program at nearly $80 billion. Todd Harrison, a budget analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, projects the entire project to have consumed $111 billion when it finishes 25 years from now.

Wow, let's hope this is not only true, but holds as a result of a clean production run (no problems that raise costs) and drops as the remaining lots are purchased.

With the B-2 costing 2 billion USD per aircraft, half-a-million for the most capable strategic bomb ever built is a steal.

Development is never inexpensive, 80 billion is certainly nothing to scoff at, but those costs don't damn a program, production and maintenance costs do. Speaking of maintenance, bets on a "baked-in" RAM coating like F-35 versus the RAM paint of F-22? Baked-in RAM is said to be less maintenance intensive, so that'll help with costs too, assuming that's what is used.

NG has the pedigree with Flying Wind designs and experience building modern heavy bombers. It was a no-brain decision, they know what they're doing.

But I was secretly pulling for Boeing's concept at, it's just damn good looking.

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Now that the LRSB has been awarded, it's time for NG's next act. The RQ-180.

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Wow, let's hope this is not only true, but holds as a result of a clean production run (no problems that raise costs) and drops as the remaining lots are purchased.

With the B-2 costing 2 billion USD per aircraft, half-a-million for the most capable strategic bomb ever built is a steal.

Development is never inexpensive, 80 billion is certainly nothing to scoff at, but those costs don't damn a program, production and maintenance costs do. Speaking of maintenance, bets on a "baked-in" RAM coating like F-35 versus the RAM paint of F-22? Baked-in RAM is said to be less maintenance intensive, so that'll help with costs too, assuming that's what is used.

NG has the pedigree with Flying Wind designs and experience building modern heavy bombers. It was a no-brain decision, they know what they're doing.

But I was secretly pulling for Boeing's concept at, it's just damn good looking.

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Now that the LRSB has been awarded, it's time for NG's next act. The RQ-180.

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stealth1.jpg

The RQ-180 is probably already in production. Apparently NG's work on that program was a major factor in their winning bid for the bomber.
 
LaPlante: “We’re going to do something that, as far as we know, has never been done before on a major platform.”

As to what this "something" is, it's anyone guess

My guess is is that we won't see this thing until at least 2020. They awarded the B-2 contract in 81 and didn't release a public image until 88. So we just have to be patient...

My guess...it can fly manned or unmanned.

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Northrop Grumman Secret bomber prototype « DarkGovernment
"NGB demonstrator may be a twin-engine aircraft resembling an X-47B. Initial version will be piloted, but an unmanned endurance version is a probable followup."

A bomber...always in the air...surrounded by a screen of killer UAV's.
 
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Is the Northrop's LRSB going to become the "B-3" bomber of USAF?
 
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