North Korea threatens USA with nuclear attack, then tests Hydrogen bomb

[Chinese-Dragon]

Are you really that thick or just having a slow day?

You make a personal attack, simply because you can't acknowledge that you have ZERO physical evidence that China proliferated nuclear weapons to Pakistan?

The world doesn't work on "he said, she said". Because people can say anything.

It works on real physical proof. That's why we still sit on the high table of the NPT, because no one has been able to prove that we broke the rules.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

You make a personal attack, simply because you can't acknowledge that you have ZERO physical evidence that China proliferated nuclear weapons to Pakistan?

The world doesn't work on "he said, she said".

It works on real physical proof. That's why we still sit on the high table of the NPT, because no one has been able to prove that we broke the rules.

Lol @WebMaster

At least, have the decency to quote me full! Let everybody know what a troll you are.

But you know what, never mind!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

At least, have the decency to quote me full! Let everybody know what a troll you are.

But you know what, never mind!

Again, do you have any physical proof that China proliferated nuclear weapons to Pakistan?

You don't, because China did NOT proliferate nuclear weapons to Pakistan. Obviously.

If anyone could prove it, we wouldn't still be sitting at the high table of the NPT (Non-Proliferation Treaty).

 

[Asian.Century]

wow miniaturized hydrogen bomb. what is that?

NK donot have enough long range missiles and aircrafts to attack America & destroy it.

 

[anon45]

Possible for the US would be to threaten to put Nuclear weapons in South Korea unless China cooperates more against North Korea.

That would really make the Chinese uncomfortable and possibly more willing to reign in North Korea.

 

[PeaceGen]

This makes betting on "who is the dumbest leadership on Earth at the moment?" utterly useless.
See, this makes it clear there are 2 winners (at least), not one..

ISIS and North-Korea -> dumbest leaderships on Earth.
N.K. because of what they do described in this tread.
And ISIS because they think they can convert by the sword, or oppress people more than a few years with their swords..

Ofcourse, this is just 1 viewpoint, and yes, i'll shut up now.. All i wanted was a quick scan of the hotsheet headlines that defence.pk provides like no other newsoutlet on the planet (the rest are all biased towards their friends-and-regular-readers)..
Long live defence.pk

and have a nice day, even if you're my enemy or someone i ridicule with a paragraph or thread.. i never do such things for fun or out of boredom.. i 'have a life', and i like it..

 

[Tshering22]

North Korea is like Aravind Kejriwal (CM of Delhi state in India) of the world.

Everytime the world forgets about them, they take the name of nuclear weapons and get back into the media.

(whenever people forget Kejriwal, he says something about Modi and comes back in limelight)

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Possible for the US would be to threaten to put Nuclear weapons in South Korea unless China cooperates more against North Korea.

That would really make the Chinese uncomfortable and possibly more willing to reign in North Korea.

Uh, do you know what happened to Kim Jong-Un's own Uncle, who was known to be friendly to China? He was fed to the dogs.

So we obviously can't "reign them in". Nor should we, for we are not the "world policeman", we are a developing country. Let the self-described world policeman do their job, or not.

Maybe they can go the Iran route and let them do all the nuclear development they want, but with "guidelines".

 

[anon45]

Uh, do you know what happened to Kim Jong-Un's own Uncle, who was known to be friendly to China? He was fed to the dogs.

So we obviously can't "reign them in". Nor should we, for we are not the "world policeman", we are a developing country. Let the self-described world policeman do their job, or not.

BS, China has control over its border crossings doesn't it? Then get with the sanctions program!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

BS, China has control over its border crossings doesn't it? Then get with the sanctions program!

LOL, is this the same "red line" we are crossing by building military facilities on the Scarborough Shoal, which we seized from the Philippines in 2012?

The truth is we have zero ability to control the Fat Kims, all of our assets in North Korea have been killed off already.

If North Korea determines they want to acquire 1960's technologies (hydrogen bombs and ICBM's) then the only way we can stop it is by declaring war on them. And guess what, that's not going to happen.

Placing nukes in South Korea is meaningless, since IBCM's and SLBM's have global range already. It will just infuriate the Fat Kims even further, as if their propaganda pictures of US soldiers sawing North Korean babies in half doesn't infuriate them enough. On the upside, they already hate you to death, so it probably won't matter anyway.

North Korea is the country-equivalent of a suicide bomber. But unlike ISIS they actually have the technological base to develop 1960's tech like hydrogen bombs and ICBM's.

 

[anon45]

The truth is we have zero ability to control the Fat Kims, all of our assets in North Korea have been killed off already.

If North Korea determines they want to acquire 1960's technologies (hydrogen bombs and ICBM's) then the only way we can stop it is by declaring war on them. And guess what, that's not going to happen.

Placing nukes in South Korea is meaningless, since IBCM's and SLBM's have global range already. It will just infuriate the Fat Kims even further, as if their propaganda pictures of US soldiers sawing North Korean babies in half doesn't infuriate them enough. On the upside, they already hate you to death, so it probably won't matter anyway.

North Korea is the country-equivalent of a suicide bomber. But unlike ISIS they actually have the technological base to develop 1960's tech like hydrogen bombs and ICBM's.

I didn't say anything about that, what is within China's power is to prevent the flow of goods from its border crossings.

Even while trolling you have to acknowledge China has control over its border crossings and largely the flow of goods crossing those.

If you still proclaim Chinese impotence over the flow of goods in its border crossings (which even if you are trolling I can't suspend my disbelief on), then the nukes stationed in South Korea might in fact be the best response as it provides a new point of leverage against North Korea as well for both the US and South Korea. Meanwhile we should increase the buildup of ABM defenses and recon capability on the peninsula to better keep track of North Korean assets.

Of course this assumes absolute impotency on China's part.

 

[Beast]

Fat Kim must be stopped. China nonsense non intervene policy has limit. In this case, China shall support support opposition of fat kim in NK.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

So all the nukes China gave to Pakistan and NK are working finally.

China will repent very soon for feeding rogue states.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I didn't say anything about that, what is within China's power is to prevent the flow of goods from its border crossings.

Even while trolling you have to acknowledge China has control over its border crossings and largely the flow of goods crossing those.

If you still proclaim Chinese impotence over the flow of goods in its border crossings (which even if you are trolling I can't suspend my disbelief on), then the nukes stationed in South Korea might in fact be the best response as it provides a new point of leverage against North Korea as well for both the US and South Korea. Meanwhile we should increase the buildup of ABM defenses and recon capability on the peninsula to better keep track of North Korean assets.

Of course this assumes absolute impotency on China's part.

Sure, we supply the vast majority of food, fuel, and electricity to North Korea, that is common knowledge.

What America wants us to do is pull the plug, condemning tens of millions of North Koreans to die from starvation, and sending millions of North Korean refugees swarming towards the Chinese border.

Well I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound like a good idea to us. Maybe for America which has killed over 1 million people in the Iraq War alone this past decade, it's a walk in the park, so let them do it instead (take the millions of refugees too).

And go ahead and place nukes in South Korea. I have zero objection. It just gives the insane Fat Kim yet another reason to make good on his threat to wipe America off the face of the Earth. But like I said, they hate you so much already, that I doubt it will even change their opinion by 1%.

 

[Baybars Han]

You want me to think up strategies on behalf of America?

Alright, I'll bite.

Instead of constantly drawing red lines and making threats that everyone just ignores, try putting your money where your mouth is.

When you draw a red line (like the famous red line in Syria), you must uphold it. If you fail to uphold it (as with Scarborough shoal, the Ukraine, etc.) then nobody will take it seriously.

America says that North Korean nuclear weapons are unacceptable, then they must be removed. If you can't do it, then don't draw red lines in the first place.

Same with the Scarborough shoal. America should uphold their "mutual defense treaty" with the Philippines, and try to forcibly remove it from Chinese hands. Why make a promise if you have no intention of keeping it?

Donald Trump, for all his craziness, is someone who might understand that. The "global policeman's" red lines are ignored by everyone, time to fix that. Like in Poker, choose a battle you are willing to fight, and then go all the way. If you're not willing to fight a battle, don't boast and draw red lines, just fold and concentrate on the ones you can win.

Think Tank this isnt a game where you just bomb or war with every country that is your enemy or that threatens you. The Iraq war alone cost the USA 1 trillion and thousands of soldiers. North Korea isnt really important for USA, they know NK dont have the capability to harm USA.