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No Schengen visa for me: A Pakistani scientist's dilemma
UMAIR ALI KHAN — PUBLISHED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO


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This had never happened to me. How on earth could a visa application for a research-based trip be rejected? —White Star/File
In 2008, I left for Austria to pursue a PhD degree in Computer Engineering. I got a Schengen visa without any hassle.

My five-year stay in Austria was an unforgettable experience with some indelible memories.

During my stay in Europe, I visited several countries to attend scientific events — including France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Slovenia, Hungary among others.

Never did I face any ethnic or racial discrimination in Europe. Never was I made to feel like an outsider.

My wife and my two-year-old daughter, who accompanied me on some of my visits, were also recipients of the same respect and warmth. While adhering to my cultural values and religion, I made countless friends from varying cultures.

Nobody ever frowned at my wife's scarf or commented on my polite refusal to enjoy champagne at graduation ceremonies and departmental parties.

I completed my PhD three years ago and left Austria, my second home, with tears in my eyes.

I returned to Pakistan with an enthusiasm to promote quality research and contribute to the scientific and technological developments of my country.

Soon enough, I was surrounded by countless problems, and it occurred to me that continuing research in this part of the world is no walk in the park.

Political corruption in academic institutes, the deteriorating state of basic education, the flawed policies of higher education, the ridiculous criteria of promotions, the emphasis on quantity over quality, among other issues, soon demoralised me.

But with the help and motivation of like-minded Pakistani peers, I continue to find solutions.

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A couple of months ago, my research paper was accepted at a European conference and I was invited to Rome from Feb 24 to Feb 26 for an oral presentation.

Besides attending the conference, my other motivation was to visit my friends in Austria, to meet my PhD supervisor, to visit the same streets in Austria where I had walked for five years, to see my tiny writings on the walls in different places at the university campus with the hope that I would still find them, to visit the house where I had lived with my family for five years.

I was overjoyed, to say the least.

I applied for the visa on Feb 4 with all the mandatory documents. I was assured that I would be notified about the decision at least a couple of days before my scheduled departure on Feb 23.

There was no reason for my visa application to be rejected. I ticked all the boxes — I am an associate professor at a university and an active researcher with an comprehensive profile. I've spent five years in different European states and have contributed actively in the field of research. I've earned an esteemed status in the scientific community.

Rejection was out of the question.

The next day, I received a phone call from the visa officer in the consulate.

He said, "Dr Khan, we have a question regarding your visa application. Since you have lived in Austria, we apprehend you may go to Austria other than the specific European country you have applied for. Now be honest with me and tell me what is your plan?"

I was of course taken aback. I had applied for a Schengen visa and I could visit more than 25 European countries on this visa — the same visa when I was pursuing a PhD.

I replied, "Yes, I intend to visit Austria after the conference. But what is the problem?"

He said, “I am sorry. Unless you promise to visit only the conference country, we cannot grant you a Schengen visa. After the Paris attacks, the immigrant rules have been made stricter. The situation is very bad. You may also experience mistreatment during immigration. You will have to assure us that you will not visit any other country."

See: US visas get new scrutiny after California, Paris attacks

This was heartbreaking for me. During my five-year stay in Europe, I had begun to consider it my homeland.

How could my homeland restrain my travel to a specific region? However, I unwillingly assured him.

On Feb 16, I received a call from the visa-pick-and-drop service that I should come and collect my passport. Based in Nawabshah, I travelled to Karachi on Feb 17 to collect my passport.

I had made all the preparations for my visit: purchased an air ticket, paid for the conference registration, booked a hotel, purchased the train and bus tickets in the conference country, and even packed my bag.

At the consulate's visa collection counter, I was handed my passport and a letter. When I read the contents of the letter, I was devastated to learn that my visa application had been declined.

This had never happened to me. How on earth could a visa application for a research-based trip be rejected?

I was going to attend an event which promotes research and serves as a platform for researchers across the world to exchange scientific ideas.

I hurriedly skipped to the reason of rejection specified in the letter. It said:

"One or more (Schengen) member states consider you to be a threat to public policy, internal security, public health or the international relations of one or more of the member states".


Never had I felt so disgraced. The letter suggested that I contact the consulate or embassy for further details. But despite my best efforts, I could not obtain a satisfactory reason for being rejected a visa.

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Perhaps my other fellow countrymen, who are poles apart from this religious lunacy and barbaric philosophy, will keep paying the price in the days to come.

Such treatment to researchers, like myself, is disappointing and discouraging, especially when Pakistan has been ranked 131 out of 141 countries in the recent ranking of the Global Innovation Index (GII).

Scientific forums and conferences provide food for thought to researchers all over the world.

Under these circumstances, very little can be done for the progress of science and technology in Pakistan.
 
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you can thank your leader scientist Dr. A Q Khan for this. Pretty sure guidance for tracking people involved in research has been issued.
The person in question was traveling with his family......pretty much raises red flags all over place......if i was the IO i would have done the same thing......
The person in question had returned to his Country, wasnt happy with his job, spends time here and gets no where.....failed to show any bonds back home.....considering his family is with him.....the bank statement tellls a different tale.....i say stamp it rejection.....

Do you think this could have happened with Indian, SL or Chinese citizen ?
Yes, IF the person shows the similar signs as i have mentioned....i have had my fare share of appeals to deal with, thats why i am saying this all......i have had two rejections for UK, one visit and one Student, won both of appeals without legal rep, on my own....i was kind of unofficial advisor to many other students in UK, and have witnessed many cases.....so tell me about it....:D
 
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This has nothing to do with Pakistan, its about current turmoil in Europe......the consulate officer was clear enough on the phone

And what about the news some time back that European countries have started deporting Pakistanis from all over Europe?
 
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And what about the news some time back that European countries have started deporting Pakistanis from all over Europe?
Only those who does't have proper visas and the rest who have visas + immigration enjoying good time there. You are here on this thread just to cash brownie points and defaming our country by trolling and misleading reports. Check you red score what u have earned believe me days are numbered.
 
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And what about the news some time back that European countries have started deporting Pakistanis from all over Europe?
I didnot receive call from Qazi sb in Paris that he will be coming back to Pakistannor did a friend sent me a text to pick him up from the airport......the odd thing is Qazi sb is a bit religious person...
 
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I didnot receive call from Qazi sb in Paris that he will be coming back to Pakistannor did a friend sent me a text to pick him up from the airport......the odd thing is Qazi sb is a bit religious person...

Wait for some time you will receive the call to pick them from airport. However you can lie as ever. My post is not based on a single Kazi example but from the news from public domain.

Europe plans to speed up deportation of tens of thousands of Pakistanis - The Washington Post
 
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Where are so called human rights activist and organization who tend to beat drums when any muslim state does it


Since it is called schingen visa they dont have any right to ask u and dictate u to where u go or u dont

But i think there is one issue ltv visa see the rules

In exceptional cases, member states may issue visas with limited territorial validity (LTV) instead of a Schengen visa. A LTV visa may either specifically name member state(s) for which it is valid or, inversely, specifically name member state(s) for which it is not valid. Holders of LTV visas are only permitted to transit via, travel to, and circulate within the territories of, member states for which it is valid.

Schengen visa code that member states may issue LTV visas:[73]

when a consulate deems it justifiable to overcome the three-month limitation in six months;
or when a member state considers it necessary due to pressing circumstances to derogate from entry conditions as set by Schengen Border code, or to overcome objections of other member states, or in cases of urgency.
Despite the fact that LTV visas may be issued in exceptional cases only, some member state abuse the facility. For instance, the Spanish Embassy in Russia occasionally issues LTV visas to tourists.

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Changes to the entries on Annex I (list of visa nationals) and Annex II (list of visa-exempt nationals) are regularly considered by the Council of the European Union based on advice from the individual member states. The Council then proposes draft legislation which has to be approved by the European Parliament.

On 24 January 2011, Moldova officially received an action plan on visa liberalization from the EU's Internal Affairs Commissioner.[126] In October 2013, the Commission proposed that visa requirements for short term visits be abolished for Moldovan citizens holding biometric passports.[127][128] On 27 February 2014, the European Parliament approved visa-free travel for Moldovan citizens.[129] The Council gave their consent on 3 April, allowing visa-free travel from 28 April 2014.[130]

On 6 May 2015 a mutual visa-free agreement with immediate effect was signed with the United Arab Emirates.[131][132] On 26 May 2015 a mutual visa-free agreement with immediate effect was signed with Timor-Leste.[133] On 28 May 2015 a mutual visa-free agreement came into effect for nationals of Dominica, Grenada, Samoa, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Trinidad and Tobago and Vanuatu.[134] A visa waiver agreement with Tonga came into effect on 21 November 2015.[135] A similar visa waiver agreement with Colombia came into effect on 3 December 2015.[136] A visa waiver agreement with Palau entered into force on 8 December
 
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There is no doubt that Muslims in general are discriminated in west after 9/11.
 
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"One or more (Schengen) member states consider you to be a threat to public policy, internal security, public health or the international relations of one or more of the member states".

Its official we are a threat

"One or more (Schengen) member states consider you to be a threat to public policy, internal security, public health or the international relations of one or more of the member states".

Its official we are a threat
 
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It is you who is idiot and can not read properly. It has specifically mentioned Pakistanis and not other nationals.
Kindly share the Part that concerns you the most in this article...

"One or more (Schengen) member states consider you to be a threat to public policy, internal security, public health or the international relations of one or more of the member states".

Its official we are a threat

"One or more (Schengen) member states consider you to be a threat to public policy, internal security, public health or the international relations of one or more of the member states".

Its official we are a threat
He is a threat to Public policy, security,health and IR......i dont see where WE were declared a threat......
Calling second country his Homeland and showing his intentions for wrong doing speaks volume about this Professor ......so he deserves the rejection.......
 
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