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IRFAN HUSAIN — UPDATED about 2 hours ago

THAT loud slurping you have been hearing this last fortnight is the sound of politicians, pundits and punters drooling over the prospect of $46 billion in Chinese investment coming to Pakistan.

Obviously, an impoverished country like ours can’t afford to look a gift horse in the mouth, especially if the horse in question is Chinese, and happens to be the only ride in town. ‘Game-changer’ is the expression most commonly being bandied about to describe the windfall. If we were to believe the TV anchors and their chat show guests, it’s as though we had hit the jackpot, and could all retire to Dubai.

For a dose of reality, just look what has happened in (and to) Sri Lanka with its spate of Chinese deals. The new government of President Sirisena is struggling to cope with the Chinese-financed and built projects it has inherited from the Rajapaksa administration.

The most contentious of these is the Colombo Port City with an investment of $1.35bn coming from the China Communications Construction Company, a huge government-controlled entity. This ambitious project — halted since the new government came to power earlier this year — is spread over 575 acres, part of which is to be reclaimed from the sea off Colombo’s shore.

Aimed at developing residential, entertainment and business spaces and facilities, the venture was designed to make Colombo a popular destination for tourists as well as a vehicle for investment in real estate. The problem is that the sponsors took many short cuts, ignoring important environmental requirements. Now if Sri Lanka cancels the deal, it stands to lose millions of dollars in penalties.

Several other public-sector projects funded and built by the Chinese are now lying virtually abandoned. Hambontota Port in the south is a case study in how to invest in useless infrastructure projects. When the new port was declared open about four years ago, a huge boulder was discovered in the channel that made navigation impossible. This obstruction was dynamited over months, but even now, it took a government directive to force car-carrying ships to dock there. Cars then have to be transported 250km to Colombo by road.

Who said China has got to where it is by handing out freebies?
Other Chinese-financed projects in the area include an international airport and a cricket stadium. Both are unused. A huge conference centre, financed by South Korea, is virtually derelict. The major users of the motorway around Hambantota are water buffaloes. One reason for all this ill-considered construction activity is that it happens to be in the ex-president’s constituency.

But to his credit, Rajapaksa focused on road-building, and there is now an excellent network in place. However, the huge difference in construction cost has raised many questions about transparency, especially about roads built with Chinese funding and by Chinese contractors.

For instance, the Southern Expressway connecting Colombo to Galle, financed by the Asian Development Bank and Japan, cost $7 million per kilometre. By contrast, the Outer Circular Highway connecting the airport to the Galle Expressway, financed by a Chinese loan and awarded without competition to a Chinese firm, is going to cost $72m per kilometre.

Of course, no two highways are identical and construction costs will vary depending on the soil conditions as well as the quality. But in an article in Colombo’s Sunday Times, Professor Kumarage, an experienced civil engineer, writing about these projects, informs us that:

“The common denominator of all these projects is that they were funded with Chinese borrowings and contracts have all been awarded in 2014 without calling for competitive bids. The loss arising from these four projects is estimated at 200 billion rupees [around $1.5bn].”

Fortunately, the $30bn dollar Chinese investment in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor is not in the shape of loans as the project is designed for China’s benefit. By connecting Gwadar Port to western China, it will save millions every year in transport costs. It is not clear, however, if we will charge the Chinese transit fees for trucks and trains carrying their goods across our territory as we have been charging Nato.

The remaining $16bn are intended for the power sector in solar, wind and coal-fired projects whose total output will be 10,400MW, a welcome addition to our present installed capacity. However, this investment is subject to a 20pc matching investment from the private sector in Pakistan. But given the favourable conditions written into this tranche, I can see Pakistani businessmen queuing up to invest.

Consider: there is a guaranteed internal rate of return (IRR) of 18pc, and this is pegged to the dollar. So if the greenback is trading for Rs110 a couple of years down the road, we will be paying an extra 10pc in rupees. And presumably, Chinese contractors will be appointed without competition, so much of the investment will be recovered early if the contracts are front-loaded.

But hey, who said China has got to where it is by handing out freebies?

irfan.husain@gmail.com

Published in Dawn, May 2nd, 2015
 
So the fake dreaming Nooni saying it will open jobs is a lie? If everything is going to Chinese workers and contractors like Nooni does for his projects (his own contractors instead of a competition)???
 
Mr Hussain is a well versed and well -informed person as far as Sri Lanka is concerned (he lives there besides UK) so I am not questioning the facts he has presented in the article. However, I do not think the example he gave in any way points finger towards Chinese but Sri Lankan President himself. If the infrastructure constructed by the Chinese is not being used is not the fault of the Chinese, nor is it because the construction was of poor quality but because Srilankan did not do their homework. It was their job and not of Chinese to decide whether Sri LAnka needed those ports, or the roads or the convention center etc. So what exactly Mr Hussain is trying to say here? We should avoid Chinese investment or that our Government should wakeup and set the priorities correctly? I guess the answer is latter and it is nothing but common sense.
 
So the fake dreaming Nooni saying it will open jobs is a lie? If everything is going to Chinese workers and contractors like Nooni does for his projects (his own contractors instead of a competition)???
well i just never trust anybody in real life because if you expect to much from others it will only disappoint you in the end, even peoples don't offer a sip of coffee free in 21'st century how can be 46$ billions...wake up Pakistanis...
 
so in short, you mean
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THAT loud slurping you have been hearing this last fortnight is the sound of politicians, pundits and punters drooling over the prospect of $46 billion in Chinese investment coming to Pakistan.

Obviously, an impoverished country like ours can’t afford to look a gift horse in the mouth, especially if the horse in question is Chinese, and happens to be the only ride in town. ‘Game-changer’ is the expression most commonly being bandied about to describe the windfall. If we were to believe the TV anchors and their chat show guests, it’s as though we had hit the jackpot, and could all retire to Dubai.

For a dose of reality, just look what has happened in (and to) Sri Lanka with its spate of Chinese deals. The new government of President Sirisena is struggling to cope with the Chinese-financed and built projects it has inherited from the Rajapaksa administration.

The most contentious of these is the Colombo Port City with an investment of $1.35bn coming from the China Communications Construction Company, a huge government-controlled entity. This ambitious project — halted since the new government came to power earlier this year — is spread over 575 acres, part of which is to be reclaimed from the sea off Colombo’s shore.

Aimed at developing residential, entertainment and business spaces and facilities, the venture was designed to make Colombo a popular destination for tourists as well as a vehicle for investment in real estate. The problem is that the sponsors took many short cuts, ignoring important environmental requirements. Now if Sri Lanka cancels the deal, it stands to lose millions of dollars in penalties.

Several other public-sector projects funded and built by the Chinese are now lying virtually abandoned. Hambontota Port in the south is a case study in how to invest in useless infrastructure projects. When the new port was declared open about four years ago, a huge boulder was discovered in the channel that made navigation impossible. This obstruction was dynamited over months, but even now, it took a government directive to force car-carrying ships to dock there. Cars then have to be transported 250km to Colombo by road.

Who said China has got to where it is by handing out freebies?
Other Chinese-financed projects in the area include an international airport and a cricket stadium. Both are unused. A huge conference centre, financed by South Korea, is virtually derelict. The major users of the motorway around Hambantota are water buffaloes. One reason for all this ill-considered construction activity is that it happens to be in the ex-president’s constituency.

But to his credit, Rajapaksa focused on road-building, and there is now an excellent network in place. However, the huge difference in construction cost has raised many questions about transparency, especially about roads built with Chinese funding and by Chinese contractors.

For instance, the Southern Expressway connecting Colombo to Galle, financed by the Asian Development Bank and Japan, cost $7 million per kilometre. By contrast, the Outer Circular Highway connecting the airport to the Galle Expressway, financed by a Chinese loan and awarded without competition to a Chinese firm, is going to cost $72m per kilometre.

Of course, no two highways are identical and construction costs will vary depending on the soil conditions as well as the quality. But in an article in Colombo’s Sunday Times, Professor Kumarage, an experienced civil engineer, writing about these projects, informs us that:

“The common denominator of all these projects is that they were funded with Chinese borrowings and contracts have all been awarded in 2014 without calling for competitive bids. The loss arising from these four projects is estimated at 200 billion rupees [around $1.5bn].”

Fortunately, the $30bn dollar Chinese investment in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor is not in the shape of loans as the project is designed for China’s benefit. By connecting Gwadar Port to western China, it will save millions every year in transport costs. It is not clear, however, if we will charge the Chinese transit fees for trucks and trains carrying their goods across our territory as we have been charging Nato.

The remaining $16bn are intended for the power sector in solar, wind and coal-fired projects whose total output will be 10,400MW, a welcome addition to our present installed capacity. However, this investment is subject to a 20pc matching investment from the private sector in Pakistan. But given the favourable conditions written into this tranche, I can see Pakistani businessmen queuing up to invest.

Consider: there is a guaranteed internal rate of return (IRR) of 18pc, and this is pegged to the dollar. So if the greenback is trading for Rs110 a couple of years down the road, we will be paying an extra 10pc in rupees. And presumably, Chinese contractors will be appointed without competition, so much of the investment will be recovered early if the contracts are front-loaded.

But hey, who said China has got to where it is by handing out freebies?



Published in Dawn, May 2nd, 2015
 
So the fake dreaming Nooni saying it will open jobs is a lie? If everything is going to Chinese workers and contractors like Nooni does for his projects (his own contractors instead of a competition)???
Chinese are planning to shift the industry and establish export process zones in Gawadar and other cities. The Chinese production locus will tilt towards Pakistan as establishing industries with cheaper labour and inputs of raw materials. The trucks carrying the goods to torkham and trains running there will also be the property of Pakistan. Its about using some brain and sense.
 
Its about using some brain and sense.
Its about what is on the contract......which is not available to public eyes :D

So about your brain and sense logic...use it where it applies where things are transparent not top secret and everything you say can be just speculation or your wishes but in the real world, it doesnt work that way!
 
Its about what is on the contract......which is not available to public eyes :D

So about your brain and sense logic...use it where it applies where things are transparent not top secret and everything you say can be just speculation or your wishes but in the real world, it doesnt work that way!
China mulls textiles units in Pakistan
The industries where Pakistan has comparative advantage geographically may be shifted to Pakistan.

@Akheilos here's another one for you
Chinese keen to relocate textile plants for exports - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
 
It's not a free lunch, it is a business decision to increase our investments into Pakistan.

China itself is already over saturated with domestic investment (up to 50% of GDP), leading to problems like inefficiency and overcapacity.

That's why we are trying to change our economic model from being investment-driven, to becoming consumption-driven.

The result is that more Chinese money is flowing overseas instead... and Pakistan is a prime destination for our investment. Pakistan doesn't have our problem of excessive domestic investment, so the investment could be a tremendous opportunity for Pakistan's economic growth.

It is a win-win situation for both sides if the opportunity is taken. :cheers:
 
China mulls textiles units in Pakistan
The industries where Pakistan has comparative advantage geographically may be shifted to Pakistan.

@Akheilos here's another one for you
Chinese keen to relocate textile plants for exports - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
relocate doesnt actually tell you much about who is going to be the labour, how much pay and what the conditions are going to be....Again assuming is different from reality hence transparency is necessary!

China mulls textiles units in Pakistan
The industries where Pakistan has comparative advantage geographically may be shifted to Pakistan.

@Akheilos here's another one for you
Chinese keen to relocate textile plants for exports - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
And what will happen to our textile industry? Killing it with your own hands? So made in Pakistan will be similar to made in China label....

Mind you textile was the only industry we had an upper hand in South Asia thanks to our unique cotton ....now that will no longer be in Pakistani products....

As for China wanting to invest that is nice...but not all investments are pretty and just coz the price is high doesnt mean it will be a pretty sight!

The result is that more Chinese money is flowing overseas
Exactly how is this benefiting China?
 
Read and study!
I am not in that field where I read about economics I might be taking a course on it so I force myself to read but that will be in 1 yrs time till then I am allowed to ignorant of the field I am not familiar with...One cant be an expert at everything....needs to give other a chance to explain :agree:
 
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