No delay In Mars mission launch, Isro insists

[Srinivas]

The Navigation support is all about NASA's deep space network.

No nation has that and every nation has to use that to track the probe.

Chinese do not understand logic, all they understand is some stats and figures. Really you people have low logic levels.

I think they say the probe is indigenous, and you know what's the mean of "indigenous".

On topic:
When I read that NASA give india navigation and tracking support, I am laughing, the most important technology in deep space project, they skip it, hehe, but they can get NASA support, "envy" them, hehe!

Mr sweetgrape...you are behaving like sour grape.....

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[Indo-guy]

the chinese just feel threatened by indo-US cooperation. BTW u actually think we are in a mars race with china??

first off all lending DSN support does not mean Space Co-operation .


Time anda agin US has extended use of its facility to other countries in Interplanetary missions ....


We are paying 70crores to US for use of their facility


This no way constitutes "Scientific Co-operation" as some Chinese are trying to misconstrue .....


Except DSN support India's mars mission is indegenious ....

So Don't say things like Indo-US Mars mission ....we are not piggybacking our spacecraft on American launcher as China did using Russian launcher .....

 

[Indo-guy]

Another angry indian, seems be hurted too much, pitiful, hehe!

You are loser of worst kind ,,,who cries hoarse at others who are racing ahead ....forgetting own failures !!!

The all mighty China had to piggy-back its Probe on Russian launcher ....so much for the short-coming of long-march !!!

If China had capability to undertake Mars mission on its own ....it would not have begged Russia to give free ride to mars .....


Do you understand ?

 

[vicky sen]

first off all lending DSN support does not mean Space Co-operation .


Time anda agin US has extended use of its facility to other countries in Interplanetary missions ....


We are paying 70crores to US for use of their facility


This no way constitutes "Scientific Co-operation" as some Chinese are trying to misconstrue .....


Except DSN support India's mars mission is indegenious ....

So Don't say things like Indo-US Mars mission ....we are not piggybacking our spacecraft on American launcher as China did using Russian launcher .....

i get ur point. i did not say ' indo US Mars mission.'
By 'cooperation' i meant not only in space missions, but also defence.

P.S- i understand u dont like the word 'cooperation' being used in da mars mission.

 

[Indo-guy]

i get ur point. i did not say ' indo US Mars mission.'
By 'cooperation' i meant not only in space missions, but also defence.

P.S- i understand u dont like the word 'cooperation' being used in da mars mission.

It's not about me not liking ....It's about not lending Chinese trolls a 'talking point ....'

Thanks for understanding !

 

[acetophenol]

Satelite monitoring ground station systems from ALL over the world are important for any deep space mission.

 

[GR!FF!N]

I think they say the probe is indigenous, and you know what's the mean of "indigenous".

On topic:
When I read that NASA give india navigation and tracking support, I am laughing, the most important technology in deep space project, they skip it, hehe, but they can get NASA support, "envy" them, hehe!

Mangalayan mission will use Indian Deep space tracking..NASA will provide help for only few parts of the journey which isn't visible from India.

 

[faithfulguy]

Mangalayan mission will use Indian Deep space tracking..NASA will provide help for only few parts of the journey which isn't visible from India.

India should not be concern about the few parts that India itself cannot provide. Whether the mission is a success or failure, it should not depend on whether US assist or not. If India base its interplanetary mission of whether US would be able to assist India, than India should never even consider such a project.

 

[Jade]

India should not be concern about the few parts that India itself cannot provide. Whether the mission is a success or failure, it should not depend on whether US assist or not. If India base its interplanetary mission of whether US would be able to assist India, than India should never even consider such a project.

Mars Mission is not something to do only with India, it is similar to India's moon mission which played key role in finding water on moon. India is not the only country that is going to gain from India's Mars Mission. So nothing wrong in taking US help, after all they are the leaders in space exploration.

 

[faithfulguy]

Mars Mission is not something to do only with India, it is similar to India's moon mission which played key role in finding water on moon. India is not the only country that is going to gain from India's Mars Mission. So nothing wrong in taking US help, after all they are the leaders in space exploration.

Nothing wrong to ask for help. but don't call it an Indian only mission if US assistance is completely necessary.

 

[Superboy]

Mars Mission is not something to do only with India, it is similar to India's moon mission which played key role in finding water on moon. India is not the only country that is going to gain from India's Mars Mission. So nothing wrong in taking US help, after all they are the leaders in space exploration.

Water on the Moon?

 

[Indo-guy]

India should not be concern about the few parts that India itself cannot provide. Whether the mission is a success or failure, it should not depend on whether US assist or not. If India base its interplanetary mission of whether US would be able to assist India, than India should never even consider such a project.

Countries have sought each others help ...to overcome gaps in technology !

US and USSR have co-operated with each other even at the height of Cold war ...

Space missions are complex....there is no harm in seeking help . But I understand your point , India shouldn't depend on other countries what it can do itself .
Hopefully India can widen ambit of its own Deep space Network during subsequent missions ...

I don't understand why India shouldn't ....as India has proven capability with Giant Meter Telescopes ...


Problem with mars mission is that ....the parallel technological development of DSN couldn't take place as Mars mission was fast tracked because of various domestic and international factors ...

ISRO is aware of requirements for such mission ....but can't say no to political master i.e government !

Seeking US help for navigation and guidance in terminal phase must have been interim solution ISRO had to accept ...


Unlike Chandrayaan -1 , ISRO didn't have time to prepare for this eventuality ....


You can understand ISRO's problem in this regard ....ISRO can't seek more time from election bound Government ....neither can develop same with such short time ....


Believe me India has capability to extend Deep space Network ....only thing it can't be done in mere 1-2 years ( time ISRO had to prepare for this mission )

In that sense I admire ISRO's courage to undertake such complex mission at such short notice with so little time ....


Chances of complete success of Mars mission are very slim ....( I am extremely pained to say that ....although I hope I will be proven wrong )

 

[President]

Nothing wrong to ask for help. but don't call it an Indian only mission if US assistance is completely necessary.

troll fest has started

 

[Indo-guy]

Nothing wrong to ask for help. but don't call it an Indian only mission if US assistance is completely necessary.

China used Russian assistance in its docking system , life support system , including suits of astronauts . whole design of shenzhou is based on Soyuz ....in that sense will you say that china's mission should not be called as China's only mission ?


Will you say that since without Russian assistance that helped China bridge gaps in its technology , it should not have undertaken such mission ?


will you say China should not have used Russian launcher to piggy-back its Mars probe ....rather should have waited to develop its won capability ?

I just want to know your opinion ....because it dwells upon same point ....

troll fest has started

@faithfulguy has been more objective than other Chinese posters here . so we have to give him credit for that !
You should counteract him logically rather than generic 'troll' remark .....

 

[Indo-guy]

Satelite monitoring ground station systems from ALL over the world are important for any deep space mission.

Indeed somehow people are making mountains out of molehills ....


Even routine satellite launches ....ground stations around the world are engaged in tracking satellites ....Does that means those satellite systems are not Indigenous ....


In that sense nobody's systems are indigenous ....


I have heard several time how ground stations dispersed across globe are involved in tracking messages /signals


It has to do with coverage area at that particular time point ....Hell even US has to depend on other countries like Australia ,Brazil , South Africa and so on for tracking of its space crafts while signals fall through territories of these countries ....

Does that mean US is dependent on Australia and should not launch mission for being dependent on Australia .....or should call it Austro-American mission and so on ???

I don't understand this logic !!!