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No country in the Western camp has entered the ranks of developed countries through normal means

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No country in the Western camp has entered the ranks of developed countries through normal means

No country in the Western camp has entered the ranks of developed countries through normal means, including very small countries such as Belgium, which have participated in the invasion of China by the Eight-Power Allied Forces( during which CHINA Qing gov was forced to pay 450 millions silver to the western invaders and eventually 690 millions silver interests added, at that time CHINA has 450 millions people, this number is specially made to humiliate each Chinese at that time) and colonized the Congo Republic -kinshasa.

Capitalism or the so called democracy or freedom never worked and never helped any country enter developed status, former empires like UK, France and US, Japan, realized their developed country status through firstly invasion and colonization which means stealing the wealth of other countries to make themselves rich and when you become rich, you start to wonder what else you can do,which means later the innovation and high techs company,

There is also a famous saying in China: "The granary is full and people begin to know the etiquette, and the food and clothing are sufficient and people begin to know the honor and disgrace."====仓廪实而知礼节,衣食足而知荣辱。
-Ancient Chinese Books:《管子·牧民》


Few countries or regions like Singapore, South korea, CHINA Taiwan, CHINA HK, entered developed country or regions status with dictatorship but developed very fastly, never a country followed US entered into developed status without dictaship. Israel is US 51th state, does not count(Israel also guarantees its own security and development through war and the occupation of Palestinian territories and the resources of neighboring countries.).

so many bad exemples, Philippines, Thailand, India, Liberia, Congo, Algeria, Outer Mongolia, Sri Lanka, Tunisia,etc......

Japan had already achieved industrialization before World War II, and it was realized under the dictatorship of the Japanese Emperor/King. Before the Second World War, the Japanese colonies such as China Taiwan, North Korea, South Korea, and the three northeastern provinces of China, and so on. Japan arbitrarily plundered the natural resources and other resources of the occupied areas. In World War II, the most powerful aircraft carrier construction capability was the United States and Japan,which you can not deny.

After the Sino-Japanese War of 1894-1895, Japan extorted China’s 200 million silver. At that time, the annual revenue of the Qing government of China was about 80 million silver, and Japan’s fiscal year’s revenue was only about 45 million silver.


Similarly, German industrialization was under the autocratic rule of the German emperor and the iron-blood prime minister Bismarck and extorted the French war reparation through the "Prussian-French War" (5 Billion francs) and numerous colonies (yes, before the First World War, Germany also occupied a lot of colonies in the world, including Jiaozhou Peninsula and Qingdao city, Shandong Province, China).

Back to 1949 when 85% Chineses can not read and write which means they were illiterate!

The knowledge built in their German and Japananese brains through higher education helped with stolen wealth and money before WWII did not ruined at all, ruines give them more free spaces to redesign and to innovate!

Dictatorship does not guarantee success, but those who have succeeded before and after WWII have been under dictatorship,give me an exemple that is successful without dictatorship before and after WWII.

Therefore, those who believe that Western multi-party elections and so-called liberal democracy represent the ultimate goal of the world are really naive: freedom and democracy are the result, not the cause.



Since freedom and democracy are so important, why did Washington, as a slave owner, not abolish the slavery system when the United States was founded in 1776, but it was only in 1865 that President Lincoln announced the abolition of the slave system which also initiated the American civil war?

Since freedom and democracy are so important, why did British and American women only get the right to vote in 1921 and 1925?

Since liberal democracy is so important, the black people who account for 12.8% of the US total population have produced only a single one mulatto President Obama for more than 200 years from 1776 to 2018 ?
 
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No country in the Western camp has entered the ranks of developed countries through normal means

No country in the Western camp has entered the ranks of developed countries through normal means, including very small countries such as Belgium, which have participated in the invasion of China by the Eight-Power Allied Forces and colonized the Congo Republic -kinshasa.

Capitalism never worked and never helped any country enter developed status, former empires like UK, France and US, Japan, realized their developed country status through firstly invasion and colonization which means stealing the wealth of other countries to make themselves rich and when you become rich, you start to wonder what else you can do,which means later the innovation and high techs company,

There is also a famous saying in China: "The granary is full and people begin to know the etiquette, and the food and clothing are sufficient and people begin to know the honor and disgrace."
-Ancient Chinese Books:《管子·牧民》


Few countries or regions like Singapore, South korea, CHINA Taiwan, CHINA HK, entered developed country or regions status with dictatorship but developed very fastly, never a country followed US entered into developed status without dictaship. Israel is US 51th state, does not count(Israel also guarantees its own security and development through war and the occupation of Palestinian territories and the resources of neighboring countries.).

so many bad exemples, Philippines, Thailand, India, Liberia, Congo, Algeria, Outer Mongolia, Sri Lanka, etc......

Japan had already achieved industrialization before World War II, and it was realized under the dictatorship of the Japanese Emperor/King. Before the Second World War, the Japanese colonies such as China Taiwan, North Korea, South Korea, and the three northeastern provinces of China, and so on. Japan arbitrarily plundered the natural resources and other resources of the occupied areas. In World War II, the most powerful aircraft carrier construction capability was the United States and Japan,which you can not deny.

After the Sino-Japanese War of 1894-1895, Japan extorted China’s 200 million silver. At that time, the annual revenue of the Qing government of China was about 80 million silver, and Japan’s fiscal year’s revenue was only about 45 million silver.


Similarly, German industrialization was under the autocratic rule of the German emperor and the iron-blood prime minister Bismarck and extorted the French war reparation through the "Prussian-French War" (5 Billion francs) and numerous colonies (yes, before the First World War, Germany also occupied a lot of colonies in the world, including Jiaozhou Peninsula and Qingdao city, Shandong Province, China).

Back to 1949 when 85% Chineses can not read and write which means they were illiterate!

The knowledge built in their German and Japananese brains through higher education helped with stolen wealth and money before WWII did not ruined at all, ruines give them more free spaces to redesign and to innovate!

Dictatorship does not guarantee success, but those who have succeeded before and after WWII have been under dictatorship,give me an exemple that is successful without dictatorship before and after WWII.

Therefore, those who believe that Western multi-party elections and so-called liberal democracy represent the ultimate goal of the world are really naive: freedom and democracy are the result, not the cause.



Since freedom and democracy are so important, why did Washington, as a slave owner, not abolish the slavery system when the United States was founded in 1776, but it was only in 1865 that President Lincoln announced the abolition of the slave system which also initiated the American civil war?

Since freedom and democracy are so important, why did British and American women only get the right to vote in 1921 and 1925?

Since liberal democracy is so important, the black people who account for 12.8% of the US total population have produced only a single one mulatto President Obama for more than 200 years from 1776 to 2018 ?
absolutely bullseye sir
 
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As far as I am concerned, seems "dictatorship "and " economy first" are eventually the only way to enter developed country status since invasion and colonization can not work and can not be accepted any more.

Very well said. Wealth accumulation in the West, other than painful and traumatic process of national self-improvement as China has been doing since established as New China, was possible due to colonization and imperialism.

Excess wealth gave advanced Western nations the means (free time and excess capital) to concentrate their attention on invention and knowledge pooling, which a country like China had to do (and is still doing) through working harder than others and sacrificing more just to ensure a more or less even ground.
 
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Very well said. Wealth accumulation in the West, other than painful and traumatic process of national self-improvement as China has been doing since established as New China, was possible due to colonization and imperialism.

Excess wealth gave advanced Western nations the means (free time and excess capital) to concentrate their attention on invention and knowledge pooling, which a country like China had to do (and is still doing) through working harder than others and sacrificing more just to ensure a more or less even ground.
china is almost there.
 
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Salaam

There is also a famous saying in China: "The granary is full and people begin to know the etiquette, and the food and clothing are sufficient and people begin to know the honor and disgrace."
-Ancient Chinese Books:《管子·牧民》

A similar punjabi saying goes -

jaiday ghar daanay,
odhay kamlay vi sianay


The one who has food at home, even his fools are smart


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Yes, wealth was acquired first which later funded the development towards 'modern western values' not the other way round.


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china is almost there.
It will take another 10-15 years for China to reach the level of moderately developed countries (22,000 to 25,000 US dollars per capita GDP), and it will take 30 years to reach the level of the upper developed countries ($35,000 per capita GDP or above), but I believe China Will definitely become the world's number one power in the foreseeable future.

To be frank, no country other than the United States is China’s real opponent. Of course, Chinese culture ensures that China is not as aggressive as the United States.

If relying solely on force, nobody cannot maintain long-term peace,because no one can always maintain the world's number one military strength, especially in this era of rapid technological development.
There must be "integrity", "mutual benefit" and "respect" between countries.
 
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As we speak of invasion, colonization? What does Xinjiang mean in Chinese?
 
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As we speak of invasion, colonization? What does Xinjiang mean in Chinese?
Xinjiang belongs to the Turkish Empire, hahahahahahahaha.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

1)There are always people who are brainwashed and unable to talk rationally. The People’s Liberation Army has been in Xinjiang for 69 years and there are people who are still dreaming of Xinjiang’s independence? China is not the Soviet Union.
The Uighur people are not fools. Are the Turks and Americans really concerned about the interests and the well-being of the Uighur people?
In order to safeguard the interests of Boeing, the Americans did not care about the death of more than 300 people or more than 500 people in the air crash of Boeing.

2)The Turks should let the Kurds in Turkey independently establish their country and recognize the Turkish massacre of the Armenians, and then come to teach the Chinese lessons.
 
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Keep shedding crocodile tear's, and tell the rest about your miserable past. I enjoy reading.
The Turks should let the Kurds in Turkey independently establish their country and recognize the Turkish massacre of the Armenians,:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
And of course You should think about also how to defeat Greece ( Greece has blocked your west)and then come to teach the Chinese lessons.



Turkey’s Suleiman the Great is in real tears.
China is relying on atomic bombs, hydrogen bombs, neutron bombs, the world's largest army and the world's second economy to recover its historical status.
Turkey has no nuclear bombs and has no power to speak.
You better hurry to find your American father to cry, let him sell you several Patriot missile and F35 to kill kurds.
 
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And now they have politicians that "export" looted wealth to these nations, like the ex-Pakistani prime minister nawaz Sharif.
 
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And now they have politicians that "export" looted wealth to these nations, like the ex-Pakistani prime minister nawaz Sharif.

Your neighboring countries grow by 8% a year, and your economy grows by only 5% a year. Then you must reflect on how to make more progress. Otherwise, in 10 years and 20 years, your gap will be even greater.

For China, from the second half of 1957 to 1978, China made 21 years of mistakes ( failed "Great Leap Forward" policy, failed "people's commune" policy, the former two are developments that violate the laws of economic development. The policy"Cultural Revolution" is to rectify the civil strife of power struggle.) Fortunately, China was awakened in 1978.

My grandfather (75 years old today) often said to me: When they were young, the biggest dream was to hope that they could have enough food all day. They couldn’t dream that the Chinese rural people can live in the tall building and have mobile phones to communicate. have color TV to see, have car to ride.
 
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I have argued the same for a long time however, people seem to have made up their minds that unless they whore the western values they would not see development/enlightenment. It is parodied on every venue and box making factories i.e. colleges and universities. The knowledge of civilizations is being lost in not developing or further researching existing skills/innovations to a factory line mindset. People and civilization are sleepwalking to their own demise.
 
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