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[Vinod2070]

Of course not, so you are telling me that the indian kings of that time - never raped - never slaughtered the vanquished, do bare in mind - that this was a brutal age, when the vanquished were summarily executed.

And the "final and perfect" and "peaceful and tolerant" did nothing to change it?

Because it was "final and perfect", nothing has changed now and can never change. You can't better what is already perfect.

So now one knows what one is dealing with and how one should respond.

The Mongols did it best. That was the only language those guys understood.

 

[Vinod2070]

yups with a series of rapes and plundering of non muslims..... He was one hell of a ahsaan faramosh who attacked after being spared.... I guess chanakya was always right never be merciful to your enemy

Yes, that was one hell of a mistake.

Frankly, he didn't know the kind of shyt he was dealing with. He did what brave people in India used to do. And was paid back in the only way that shyt whom he pardoned knew!

Indians realized much later what we were dealing with. These people had no morals, no compunctions and for them civilians were fair game.

India had no experience in dealing with that kind of fanaticism and intolerance!

 

[Rafi]

And the "final and perfect" and "peaceful and tolerant" did nothing to change it?

Because it was "final and perfect", nothing has changed now and can never change. You can't better what is already perfect.

So now one knows what one is dealing with and how one should respond.

The Mongols did it best. That was the only language those guys understood.

And Genghis Khan or Temojin is worshipped as a God by the Mongol people, proves my point exactly.

 

[Vinod2070]

And Genghis Khan or Temojin is worshipped as a God by the Mongol people, proves my point exactly.

What does it prove?

Are you saying Islam is no different from the Shamanism practiced by Mongols of the time?

 

[Vinod2070]

Be civil when you facing one with civil behavior. I tell you a story of the great Prithvi Raj Chauhan. He was civil to ghauri after defeating him in panipat and allowed him to run away unharmed......and how did he pay back??? you can consult google.

A hell of a mistake! One that proved pretty expensive, especially for people who are now in Pakistan and Afghanistan. They lost their all, including the faith.

 

[Rafi]

Yes, that was one hell of a mistake.

Frankly, he didn't know the kind of shyt he was dealing with. He did what brave people in India used to do. And was paid back in the only way that shyt whom he pardoned knew!

Indians realized much later what we were dealing with. These people had no morals, no compunctions and for them civilians were fair game.

India had no experience in dealing with that kind of fanaticism and intolerance!

If you think the indian kings of that time were some sort of glorified choir boys, then you are delusional, they would not have been kings, if they weren't ruthless and cunning.

IMHO - many indian's make these sort of illusions - because they lost heavily in those exchanges, their pride does not let them acknowledge the superiority of the opposition, so they make these absurd excuses.

 

[divya]

Vinod and Rafi i have made a thread on Ghauri lets take discussion there, because this will go offtopic....

 

[Rafi]

What does it prove?

Are you saying Islam is no different from the Shamanism practiced by Mongols of the time?

You are mistaken - Monguls today in 2011 worship Genghis as a God.

 

[Rafi]

A hell of a mistake! One that proved pretty expensive, especially for people who are now in Pakistan and Afghanistan. They lost their all, including the faith.

My friend I am a Jatt, my people opposed Ghauri at the time, but thanks to him, the Sufi that converted my clan to Islam was allowed to come to my warrior people,

 

[Vinod2070]

You are mistaken - Monguls today in 2011 worship Genghis as a God.

I know!

So, how does this still match with the claims of "final and perfect" and "peaceful and tolerant"?

 

[Vinod2070]

If you think the indian kings of that time were some sort of glorified choir boys, then you are delusional, they would not have been kings, if they weren't ruthless and cunning.

IMHO - many indian's make these sort of illusions - because they lost heavily in those exchanges, their pride does not let them acknowledge the superiority of the opposition, so they make these absurd excuses.

The first people who lost are now in Pakistan and Afghanistan (and Persia before that).

They also lost their faith and civilization. That is a much bigger loss as per me, almost impossible to regain.