Nizami’s death penalty not fair governance: Erdoğan

[Dr Gupta]

Very happy this sick man was hanged but should have been done earlier, but BD needs to stop the menace of these fatal hackings!

 

[cloud4000]

Please do enlighten us then what is meant by 'allies'. I mean the dozens of leaders since both the countries' existence, publicly and officially, declaring that both were "the closest of allies" obviously does not hold any ground against your wise judgement. Every book ever written on the two countries' relations is also apparently hogwash considering that you, in your infinite wisdom, declared them as 'not allies'. After all Turkey has only so many times asked India to go take a hike on Pakistan's behalf, its unconditional support for Pakistan's claim on Kashmir is only gibberish and both the countries' military personnel serving as active duty members in each other's forces is just a cultural exchange program.

Kindly stop sniffing the bull excreta......taking your head out of your bottom would be a good start.

Wow. Turkey told India to take a hike, unconditionally supports Pakistan's position on Kashmir (as if its the only country), and then there are military exchanges. All hallmarks of an alliance, according to your definition.

Is there a formal alliance -- some framework, like NATO, enshrined in some treaty -- that both Pakistan and Turkey are officially part of?

 

[krash]

Wow. Turkey told India to take a hike, unconditionally supports Pakistan's position on Kashmir (as if its the only country), and then there are military exchanges. All hallmarks of an alliance, according to your definition.

Is there a formal alliance -- some framework, like NATO, enshrined in some treaty -- that both Pakistan and Turkey are officially part of?

So now it's 'formalized military alliance treaties' that you are talking about? Like I said, kindly take your head out of your bottom.

"Ally" definition: a person, group, or nation that is associated with another or others for some common cause or purpose.

Has Pakistan signed a formal alliance agreement with China? Remind the Indian government of that when next time they soil their pants over it.

ps: Not military exchanges. Pakistani soldiers serve in the Turkish military as Turkish soldiers and vice versa. How many times must I advise you to take your head out of your bottom?

 

[MastanKhan]

When did Turkey interfered in India's matter?

Saying a guy from country who just think it has right to interfere in Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, China, Pakistan etc......

Talk about hypocrisy. Erdogan is a man, he did not brag about 56 inch chest like of your Modi, who then gets phus when faces real opponent.

The poster was playing a game.

 

[cloud4000]

So now it's 'formalized military alliance treaties' that you are talking about? Like I said, kindly take your head out of your bottom.

"Ally" definition: a person, group, or nation that is associated with another or others for some common cause or purpose.

Has Pakistan signed a formal alliance agreement with China? Doesn't keep the Indian government from soiling its pants every single time.

ps: Not military exchanges. Pakistani soldiers serve in the Turkish military as Turkish soldiers and vice versa. How many times must I advise you to take your head out of your bottom?

Thank you for the dictionary definition. It's obvious your definition of ally is much looser than mine. Whatever floats your boat. Good day.

 

[Bilal9]

Nizami had nothing to do with Bangabandhu's death....her father's death was avenged when 5 killer's were hanged.....if the Jews can put Nazis to death 70 years after the holocaust so can we...nothing is in bad taste...not one single "proper" world leader objected to this....and their is no global consensus against Bangladeshis or for JeI leaders.....Hasina has a lot of short comings but this isn't one of them...even if you rule out Awami League and JeI supporters the trials were favored by most of the general neutral population...and I do not think there will be any major blowback due to Nizami's hanging....Saka Chowdhury was much powerful and influential than him and nothing happened.

Jews do put Nazis to death but they don't dance in the streets while someone is hanged nor do they beat Nazis' portraits with open shoes. See the BBC link I posted earlier for the images.

I know that MRN was a 'collaborator' with the Pakistani Army and people whose relatives were killed due to his involvement have strong feelings about hanging him. I have no qualms against hanging someone who has been put through a proper trial and has been found guilty. Whether the trial was proper or not (politically motivated) was another issue. The fact that hanging Islamists these days is a Cause Célèbre in the west is well-known, they won't shed any tears of course.

But the issue I have is - why make someone's hanging a media circus?? Are we that lacking in civilized behavior that we have to dance in the streets when we hang someone? What does it say about the type of animals we have become? Do we have to do this just because our paymaster dictates as such?

 

[TopCat]

Oldest people that were hanged as a result of war crimes in WW2:

All are hangings unless specified ....approximate age at execution in brackets:

Nuremberg Trials:

Wilhelm Frick (69)
Wilhelm Keitel (64)
Julius Streicher (61)

Oldest people that were hanged as a result of other trials of War Crimes in WW2:

Other German trials:

Oswald Pohl (59)
Paul Blobel (57)
August Bogusch (58)
Fritz Klein (57)

Romanian Trials:

Ion Antonescu (64) - firing squad

Japanese Trials:

Kenji Doihara (65)
Koki Hirota (70)
Seishiro Itagaki (63)
Heitaro Kumura (60)
Iwane Matsui (70)
Akira Muto (56)
Hideki Tojo (64)
Masaharu Homma (59) - firing squad

Italian Trials:

Nicolla Bellomo (64) - firing squad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Axis_personnel_indicted_for_war_crimes

Well, Nizami was merely a foot soldier who was never seen killing anybody by his hand. I read the trial and itself said that he was seen with PK army as informer. I am not sure that warrant a war crime tribunal against him. He could be jailed for 3 years if he was tried for WW2

Nizami had nothing to do with Bangabandhu's death....her father's death was avenged when 5 killer's were hanged.....if the Jews can put Nazis to death 70 years after the holocaust so can we...nothing is in bad taste...not one single "proper" world leader objected to this....and their is no global consensus against Bangladeshis or for JeI leaders.....Hasina has a lot of short comings but this isn't one of them...even if you rule out Awami League and JeI supporters the trials were favored by most of the general neutral population...and I do not think there will be any major blowback due to Nizami's hanging....Saka Chowdhury was much powerful and influential than him and nothing happened.

Bangladesh needed a trial and Nizami was a scapegoat. There is nobody else around right?

 

[T-72M1]

Isis financier erdogan can go to hell, hang the bastard already.

 

[Nilgiri]

Well, Nizami was merely a foot soldier who was never seen killing anybody by his hand. I read the trial and itself said that he was seen with PK army as informer. I am not sure that warrant a war crime tribunal against him. He could be jailed for 3 years if he was tried for WW2

Well maybe a survey should be done in Bdesh as to peoples reactions. Do they feel it was just or not. Otherwise its just back and forth discussion on a forum.

 

[Anubis]

Jews do put Nazis to death but they don't dance in the streets while someone is hanged nor do they beat Nazis' portraits with open shoes. See the BBC link I posted earlier for the images.

I know that MRN was a 'collaborator' with the Pakistani Army and people whose relatives were killed due to his involvement have strong feelings about hanging him. I have no qualms against hanging someone who has been put through a proper trial and has been found guilty. Whether the trial was proper or not (politically motivated) was another issue. The fact that hanging Islamists these days is a Cause Célèbre in the west is well-known, they won't shed any tears of course.

But the issue I have is - why make someone's hanging a media circus?? Are we that lacking in civilized behavior that we have to dance in the streets when we hang someone? What does it say about the type of animals we have become? Do we have to do this just because our paymaster dictates as such?

We are no different than we were before...dancing in the streets,burning efigies,flags,tires are very old culture here...beating portrait with shoes is quintessentially subcontinental.....I do not see any difference between what people are today and what they were 20 years ago....and I don't understand why you are suddenly holding our people to such a high standard today..specifically over the death of such a nobody.

Well, Nizami was merely a foot soldier who was never seen killing anybody by his hand. I read the trial and itself said that he was seen with PK army as informer. I am not sure that warrant a war crime tribunal against him. He could be jailed for 3 years if he was tried for WW2



Bangladesh needed a trial and Nizami was a scapegoat. There is nobody else around right?

Yes and No...call the trial whatever you will....this has been to some extent a mob justice....the mob just happened to be the majority of the population of a country he made the mistake of returning to...had he and the other morons stayed back in Pakistan they would be happy today(or dead by a drone strike).

Well, Nizami was merely a foot soldier who was never seen killing anybody by his hand. I read the trial and itself said that he was seen with PK army as informer. I am not sure that warrant a war crime tribunal against him. He could be jailed for 3 years if he was tried for WW2



Bangladesh needed a trial and Nizami was a scapegoat. There is nobody else around right?

No....he would be executed for the same crime during ww2...he was a informer who facilitated death of innocent people....gestapo and ss informers have been executed...they didn't directly kill people....a mere security guard of a concentration camp was jailed for 4 years.

 

[TopCat]

No....he would be executed for the same crime during ww2...he was a informer who facilitated death of innocent people....gestapo and ss informers have been executed...they didn't directly kill people....a mere security guard of a concentration camp was jailed for 4 years.

executed not at war tribunal.

 

[barbarosa]

The hanging of the Muslim people in the BD means the complete control of India. I am studying the posts of this title since start, All Indian members are enjoying this event. Nizami sab had soft corner for Pakistan and hard for India, It was the reason of his hang. Nobody can love other country more than own country, he could not love ( soft corner ) for Pakistan more than Bangladesh.
Now his decision has gone to the court of God. God is the greatest judge.

 

[Nilgiri]

The hanging of the Muslim people in the BD means the complete control of India.

So only Non-Muslim people should ever be hanged in an Islam majority country?

 

[tsinga]

not one single "proper" world leader objected to this....and their is no global consensus against Bangladeshis or for JeI leaders.....

Pakistanis are pulling crap without any substantive argument. For them, their own country and Turkish President (who loves organizations like Muslim Brotherhood who are considered terrorists by the rest of the world) are the only ones to be considered 'world'.

No major world leader is against Bangladesh because of these trials and neither has Bangladesh's actions been acted against by any major world power.

India and Russia stand firmly behind Bangladesh. China is already a friend of Bangladesh.
And India has by extension made US stand behind Bangladesh.

This is a question of Justice. Regardless of whether the man is 70 or 700 years old. He was a criminal and as God is witness, he has been sentenced for his crimes against humanity.

 

[Anubis]

executed not at war tribunal.

No they were executed at war crime tribunals headed by the military....what they did differently was tried the entire group first....for example the SS,SA and Gestapo were tried as groups and established that they were guilty of war crimes(they had around 2 million members)....so any member brought before the tribunal is automatically guilty....but depending on their involvement and the gravity of their duties their sentences would vary....BD could have done the same...things would have been easier....we should have tried the institutions of Razakar,Al-Shams and AL-Badr first....if these groups were found guilty(which they would have been)....we could move on to individual members.

The hanging of the Muslim people in the BD means the complete control of India. I am studying the posts of this title since start, All Indian members are enjoying this event. Nizami sab had soft corner for Pakistan and hard for India, It was the reason of his hang. Nobody can love other country more than own country, he could not love ( soft corner ) for Pakistan more than Bangladesh.
Now his decision has gone to the court of God. God is the greatest judge.

Ok next time Pakistan hangs a muslim guy remind you judges of that....send them a letter.