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Nizami’s death penalty not fair governance: Erdoğan

"Pakistan doesn't care about us".....goes on a rant about us,our history and our politics and human rights situation just to prove how much Pakistan doesn't care...Thank you.

Are you so thick head who can't get the point. Bangladesh doesn't affect Pakistan, it is insignificant in international or even regional politics. What concerns Pakistan is hr violations of Haseena the head of awami league which is the heir of mutkia terrorist group. Political and judicial murders of those Bangladeshis who stood with their country in 71.

Unfortunately your history was linked with Pakistan.
Your politics = who gives a fk? All Pakistan care about is of those Bangladeshis who stood against mutkia terrorists in 71.
hr violations...again, it is against those who supported Pakistan (their country in 71) against terrorist mutkia.
 
When did Turkey interfered in India's matter?

Saying a guy from country who just think it has right to interfere in Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, China, Pakistan etc......

Talk about hypocrisy. Erdogan is a man, he did not brag about 56 inch chest like of your Modi, who then gets phus when faces real opponent.

Congratulations for getting the country right and for summing up the issue with such wisdom and acumen. We must remember that members like you are very necessary for the health of this forum, and your presence is something that we need to welcome.
 
Bangladesh land-locked? How do we have a Navy then?

And what do we do with our ports and shipyards? :azn:

Sorry, my bad. I mean to say landlocked from "almost all sides", as it is covered by india from all 3 sides except a minor border with Myanmar plus the water in the south is completely dominated by India.
 
I saw what u did there

Naughty, isn't he?

Neither is syrian refugees in Europe india's problem. But you guys love to poke your nasty noses.

Turkeye has full right to comment being an ally of Pakistan.

How does being an ally of Pakistan have anything to do with Bangladesh? Have you come across the phenomenon of 'phantom itch', when patients feel sensations in a limb that has been amputated?

oh, the sultan of islamic world has spoken.... or is it i
Imam? the guy does not understand he is pis*ing off everybody in every country and hurting turkey's relation with every country he talks about. Just shut up, do quiet diplomacy.

He wouldn't understand either 'quiet' or 'diplomacy'; why waste the poor man's time?

to all my bangali brother, look into this man's eyes and honstly tell me if he a rapist and a murderer View attachment 304216

Is that how you conduct judicial proceedings in your part of the world?

Since pretty long. You can google the relationship history as I don't do spoon feeding.

You mean there is mutual admiration, and the two countries love to think that they are allied with each other? If they are allies, and for pretty long, I wonder what they did for each other in times of tension and the imminent possibility of war?

Yea stop them ! First Indians acknowledged there own involvement in BD in 1971 , Its not matter about BD or Pak its about principles and unlawful acts in BD .Great job Turkey

How about Turkey applying those noble principles to its own unlawful acts in Turkey? Charity begins at home.

Oh! wow, now Bangladesh is the province of the India?? @BDforever @Doyalbaba @Anubis @SHK @Khan saheb


and who the hell are you interfering in other's internal matter..

Wasn't that what the Turkish President just did?

Erdogan as expected did the right thing. These trails are indeed politically motivated targetting opponents of awamileague. Nizami along with all the other JeI leaders were victims of indo-awami political vendetta. They were innocent people who sided with truth and justice. I very much appreciate erdogan's diplomatic support for the oppressed in BD.


Good show. A perfect summary of the defence, which had nothing else to say against the mountains of evidence that led to the conviction and to the death sentence.

They were innocent people who sided with truth and justice.



There is a principle in law that a plaintiff should come to court with clean hands. You can cite agreements and you can ask for adherence by others to agreements when you keep your own agreements. Unfortunately, you don't. There are two concrete cases of international treaties which Pakistan constantly violates. You should concentrate on keeping to those treaties first.

Furthermore, you have no idea what you are talking about. It would be nice if you looked up your facts before jumping up and down, frothing at the mouth. The agreement that you are referring to related to Pakistani POWs, not to citizens of Bangladesh.

good, OIC, GCC and Arab League should also condemn political revenge and killing by indian puppet awami regime who is ruling BD without fair elections.

And the reports by neutral foreign observers count for nothing just because someone is elected whom you don't like?

No one understood my sarcasm :(:(

It was not funny, it was not timely, and it allowed a hundred donkeys to bray about what you meant in a sarcastic way.

I mean, I don't care whatever @iajdani says, Nizami's death penalty is unfair.

Why?

Are you denying that he was head of al Badr?

Are you denying that al Badr was guilty of horrible crimes, including the selective slaughter of intellectuals?

Are you denying that he was directly responsible for these crimes?

Why unfair? Why not go on to say that it was illegal as well? Or to claim that the trial was biased? Don't stop at that, attack the government as well. Tell the world that it was unfairly elected (just pretend you haven't read the report of the neutral observers).

The sky is the limit, for true patriots and for true interfering Islamists.

https://www.icrc.org/casebook/doc/case-study/bangladesh-india-pakistan-1974-agreement-case-study.htm

Know your history, If you just wanted to please Indians you should look into this first .
My friend history you can not change just for your reference ,Pak accepted Bangladesh based on an agreement signed by all parties (Pak,Ban,India) ,I am putting some points out of this agreement

The question of 195 Pakistani prisoners of war was discussed by the three Ministers, in the context of the earnest desire of the Governments for reconciliation, peace and friendship in the sub-continent. The Foreign Minister of Bangladesh stated that the excesses and manifold crimes committed by these prisoners of war constituted, according to the relevant provisions of the U.N. General Assembly Resolutions and International Law, war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide, and that there was universal consensus that persons charged with such crimes as the 195 Pakistani prisoners of war should be held to account and subjected to the due process of law. The Minister of State for Defence and Foreign Affairs of the Government of Pakistan said that his Government condemned and deeply regretted any crimes that may have been committed.
  1. In this connection the three Ministers noted that the matter should be viewed in the context of the determination of the three countries to continue resolutely to work for reconciliation. The Ministers further noted that following recognition, the Prime Minister of Pakistan had declared that he would visit Bangladesh in response to the invitation of the Prime Minister of Bangladesh and appealed to the people of Bangladesh to forgive and forget the mistakes of the past, in order to promote reconciliation. Similarly, the Prime Minister of Bangladesh had declared with regard to the atrocities and destruction committed in Bangladesh in 1971 that he wanted the people to forget the past and to make a fresh start, stating that the people of Bangladesh knew how to forgive.
  2. In the light of the foregoing and, in particular, having regard to the appeal of the Prime Minister of Pakistan to the people of Bangladesh to forgive and forget the mistakes of the past, the Foreign Minister of Bangladesh stated that the Government of Bangladesh had decided not to proceed with the trials as an act of clemency. It was agreed that the 195 prisoners of war may be repatriated to Pakistan along with the other prisoners of war now in the process of repatriation under the Delhi Agreement. [...]


I have answered check first

You do realise that this was an agreement about the PoWs only and applied to the 195 persons only.

So it has been proven that the agreement signed (war criminals for recognition/reconciliation) covered 195 Pakistan Military officers and not this Razakar guy that is about to be hanged.

The thread has been eye opening in many details.

I wonder if those that claimed this guy was covered under that agreement will post any proof for their assertions?


They can't.

As usual, they don't have a leg to stand on, other than their own fanciful interpretation of agreements.

Firstly Pakistan don't care what a traitor says. For Pakistan Nizami words are more valuable as he was a defender against mutkia terrorists.

Secondly even if you guys cosume what he said, then he clearly said that he will follow geneva convention. I'm not an expert but as far as what i understand, Geneva convention says that no individual can be prosecuted out of hatred. If any individual has comitted a crime they has to go through normal courts and not war tribunals.

Thirdly Pakistan and it's allies will keep raising their voice no matter what Bangladesh does, you can reject condemnations but can't stop.

What is the difference between a normal court and a war tribunal? The Geneva Conventions nowhere mention such a distinction. The crimes that were prosecuted were crimes under the Criminal Procedure Code, and crimes without a statute of limitations.

My point is according to shimla treaty bd forgive 195 pak army officer. This 45 years old issue is a dead horse! BAL is just using these dead horse for political gain :coffee:

Those Army officers are not being prosecuted. They were not prosecuted. The treaty did not cover anyone else.

You do not use an agreement to buy wheat to comment on the sale of onions. People would laugh at you; in both cases.

The hanging of the Muslim people in the BD means the complete control of India. I am studying the posts of this title since start, All Indian members are enjoying this event. Nizami sab had soft corner for Pakistan and hard for India, It was the reason of his hang. Nobody can love other country more than own country, he could not love ( soft corner ) for Pakistan more than Bangladesh.
Now his decision has gone to the court of God. God is the greatest judge.

He was hanged for crimes, not for soft, hard or warm corners. The trouble with a particular kind of mentality is that it is unwilling to acknowledge the rule of law, and always falls back on sentiment and prejudice. That is what your post is, a summing up of the sentiments and prejudice prevailing, with not even a bare reference to the law.

Ok do what ever you think is good for you .As per agreement these incidents were to be forgive thats why Pak accepted BD.As the current Govt in BD is not representing people this all is propaganda and try to please India ,Please do so soon you will realize How India is making use of current regime to take out Soverign BD

The incidents were not to be forgiven, the individuals named and released were to be forgiven. Pakistan's acceptance of Bangladesh was not in question; that was already over. It was the release of prisoners that was in question.

Your statement about the current government in Bangladesh not representing the people is very strange. They have had free and fair elections, and international observers were present. Their elections are much fairer than Pakistani elections. Your commenting on the elections there shows a complete lack of a sense of irony, considering your own country's track record of holding elections, and complete lack of respect for the sovereignty of Bangladesh (not BD, Bangladesh).

Political revenge from those who had different political opinion and supported united Pakistan in past. Its like taking revenge from those Indian Muslims who voted for two nation theory or hanging those ulema of Deobund who opposed creation of Pakistan. Haseena is witch and kudos to nizami for his bravery and not pleading for mercy from this Indian slave old Bengali witch
You are being disingenuous.

This was a group that was trained to kill to order, and did so. The man was tried for heading that group, and for
providing leadership to a gang of assassins.
 
What bangladesh gain out hanging over 60 man... haseena is taking revenge for his dad by killing and hanging people some fool just suported her question is how long she is gonna live..
Mostly bangali knows whats going on and what she is doing cud only be a women style of revenge.. Turkey did what is right if modi openly admit that india was the reason of bangladesh which he took all cridet of making bangladesh and show his grudge against Pakistan.. Turkey is old friend of muslims of subcontinent bangladeshi fail to recognise...
I am pretty sure once haseena gone bangladesh will run to muslim ummah till then they have been killing their own people brining hate between nation and india is enjoying is monoply..
Once i thought bangali is very smart nation.
 
Congratulations for getting the country right and for summing up the issue with such wisdom and acumen. We must remember that members like you are very necessary for the health of this forum, and your presence is something that we need to welcome.

THANK YOU...:-)
 
Are you so thick head who can't get the point. Bangladesh doesn't affect Pakistan, it is insignificant in international or even regional politics.
Says who?
You? Pakistan?
All major powers of the world disagree. And you are not amongst them. Don't even enter conversations talking about whether other countries are significant or not.

Bangladesh is a key partner of both India and China and together we are building a massive corridor of peace and prosperity along with other ASEAN countries. Russia backs Bangladesh and US has not intervened despite being chums with Pakistan. Should tell you clearly.
What concerns Pakistan is hr violations of Haseena the head of awami league which is the heir of mutkia terrorist group. Political and judicial murders of those Bangladeshis who stood with their country in 71.
What should concern Pakistan is the declassification of Hammadur Rahman commission report and trials of those Pakistani Army officers who engaged in war crimes...not anything else.
 
I see what you did there. :lol:

This is none of Sultan Erdogan's business.
As the successor of the last legitimate Khilafah the last greatest empire that world has ever witnessed, the last bastion of Ahlu sunnah Wal Jamaah, it befalls on Istanbul to stand up for for the opressed muslim majority in all nations

Therefore it is of our business. All ahlu Sunnah wal Jamaah struggles for independence, right and dignity is our struggle as well.
 
As the successor of the last legitimate Khilafah the last greatest empire that world has ever witnessed, the last bastion of Ahlu sunnah Wal Jamaah, it befalls on Istanbul to stand up for for the opressed muslim majority in all nations

Therefore it is of our business. All ahlu Sunnah wal Jamaah struggles for independence, right and dignity is our struggle as well.

Jazakamullahu Khairan brother, we support our Turkish brothers 100 percent. What you love for yourself, love for others.
 
Isis financier erdogan can go to hell, hang the bastard already.
Turkey has no business in the Internal Affairs of BD............It's the Job of INDIA :D
Turkey should not interfere into the internal matters of India
@T-123456 @Zulkarneyn why did President Erdogan felt that he should talk about things which don't concern Turkey ?

And many more, these are all Indian profiles here. Bangladeshis are in dire need of revising their stance on these issues and see for themselves who interfere into the internal affairs of BD. Is it Turkey, by recalling our Ambassador, or India, openly puppeteering your current government.
 
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Says who?
You? Pakistan?
All major powers of the world disagree. And you are not amongst them. Don't even enter conversations talking about whether other countries are significant or not.

Bangladesh is a key partner of both India and China and together we are building a massive corridor of peace and prosperity along with other ASEAN countries. Russia backs Bangladesh and US has not intervened despite being chums with Pakistan. Should tell you clearly.

What should concern Pakistan is the declassification of Hammadur Rahman commission report and trials of those Pakistani Army officers who engaged in war crimes...not anything else.

Bangladesh, India, Somalia, South Sudan...who cares...definitely not Pakistan. World revolves around big powers such as US, EU, China, Russia not some third world countries that have enough of troubles such as r@pe, lungi, aids infected and dirt poor people.
 
Bangladesh, India, Somalia, South Sudan...who cares...definitely not Pakistan. World revolves around big powers such as US, EU, China, Russia not some third world countries that have enough of troubles such as r@pe, lungi, aids infected and dirt poor people.
If you are correct, then I wonder why no one has been able to stop Bangladesh from hanging these terrorists.

And many more, these are all Indian profiles here. Bangladeshis are in dire need of revising their stance on these issues and see for themselves who interfere into the internal affairs of BD. Is it Turkey, by recalling our Ambassador, or India, openly puppeteering your current government.
Toeing the Pakistani line - of Bangladesh puppeteering or not will lead Turkey nowhere.

The rest of South Asia is very different from Pakistan. India, BD, Bhutan, Nepal and even Myanmar are forging new relations by becoming closer to each other economically. Such words mean nothing.

This is something the Govt. of Turkey will also realize as it falls out of favour with both Bangladesh and India. Turkey and even Pakistan have zero influence here to be able to change what is happening. All this will end up doing is create hostility for Turkey where none exists presently.
 
If you are correct, then I wonder why no one has been able to stop Bangladesh from hanging these terrorists.
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Like I said earlier, their country their rules, they can hang whoever they want but these diplomatic protests are to show support to the oppressed ones. Plus in the future if something unfavorable comes up, they can be reminded of this protest.
 
Like I said earlier, their country their rules, they can hang whoever they want but these diplomatic protests are to show support to the oppressed ones. Plus in the future if something unfavorable comes up, they can be reminded of this protest.
Diplomatic protests carry weight when they are done against - in your perspective - insignificant countries.
Now if US or Russia or China were to send diplomatic protests against Bangladesh, these sentences would not be carried out, they would be converted to life sentence or some such because per you these are countries less significant than yours.

Now, why do you think it is happening that Pakistan and Turkey are complaining for so long and yet it has made no iota of difference.

For example, when we disapproved of something that was happening in Nepal, we backed it up by action and the Nepal Govt had to change its course of action. When we had an issue with Sri Lanka buying Pakistani jets, our diplomatic protest led to Sri Lanka dropping its plan to buy Pakistani jets.

Do you see a pattern here?

And for the record, Bangladesh is an important country, a valued partner and its presence a positive for the World. In fact all our(India's) neighbours barring Pakistan are significant and partners in progress for a better South Asia.
 
And many more, these are all Indian profiles here. Bangladeshis are in dire need of revising their stance on these issues and see for themselves who interfere into the internal affairs of BD. Is it Turkey, by recalling our Ambassador, or India, openly puppeteering your current government.

You are creating a controversy where none exist

Naughty, isn't he?

It was not funny, it was not timely, and it allowed a hundred donkeys to bray about what you meant in a sarcastic way.

It is a matter of perspective really
 

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