Nirbhay Cruise Missile range is potentially 1600+kms

[KapitaanAli]

Sorry but it used the turbofan only. I got it clarified at the def expo 2018. I went ahead and asked the GTRE guys.

Thank you.

 

[amardeep mishra]

@amardeep mishra The 50min trial you mentioned reportedly used a turbojet engine and not Saturn. Nirbhay has shown even better performance with Saturn, and would with Manik.

Also stop wasting your time on folks with substandard education. Always reason out using facts, credible evidences and literature. Since Pakistanis in general(this doesn't mean Indians don't get fanboyish, it's just that research culture in both India and Pakistan is world's apart and that leaves little room for conspiracy theories here) tend to believe more in fancy conspiracy theories, it is often wise to not discuss scientific things at all.

 

[KapitaanAli]

Also stop wasting your time on folks with substandard education. Always reason out using facts, credible evidences and literature. Since Pakistanis in general(this doesn't mean Indians don't get fanboyish, it's just that research culture in both India and Pakistan is world's apart and that leaves little room for conspiracy theories here) tend to believe more in fancy conspiracy theories, it is often wise to not discuss scientific things at all.

I usually just make one post to clarify it for novice visitors and then ignore. Enough negativity about our projects already.

Coming back to the topic, do you think GTRE would be certain about which engine was used?

 

[RoyalEnfieldBullet500]

Of course there is a development process in Pakistan, our military, scientists, engineers jump through hoops to try and protect our homeland. Immense amount of work and effort goes into developing our cruise missiles, MIRV capable Ababeel or our battlefield nukes or anything

Its just that we dont bang our drums like idiots before we are ready to reveal the weapon

Babur has a range of 700km the technology involved is difficult to master, upto 700km its deadly and currently immense work is being undertaken to ensure that as the range increases its cruise missile characteristics arent ignored inthe race for distance.
This buddy is the Pakistani way of developing our weapons to kill hindu india, no chest thumping, no declarations of future 2000km targets, just hard work protecting Pakistan



ALL JUNK

Desert Ferrari all broke down
Insas was poorly made rubbish that jammed
Rustom and nishant all fell out of the sky
Tejas is a dead donkey you have now been flogging for 40 years, your latest plan is to make it medium weight after spending years trying to take weight off (& failing)

All of your missiles have nice paint schemes. I hate the one on Agni 5.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Hi!
DRDO's annual report has just been published and it contains wealth of information on various systems except strategic ones. For instance DRDO's report has this to say about Nirbhay and indigenous turbofan:
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Analyzing, open source report on Nirbhay we see that Nirbhay has a potential to reach beyond 1600kms. This is because in recent HATs, Manik micro turbofan could run for 2hrs continuously at max load conditions. Now since both Manik and Russian Saturn 36MT are in 450kgf class and similar SFC, one would expect similar ranges. Now extrapolating, the fact that last trial lasted for 50mins and Nirbhay could cover ~700kms, with the indigenous Manik, they should be able to cover a range of more than 1600kms. One must also bear in mind that the Nirbhay was flying very low <200m in it's last flight in certain sections of the mission. If however, the missile flies all high at 8km altitude, then range can further be increased to 2000kms!
In my opinion, even a 1600kms range for Nirbhay is more than enough for India's current needs. It surpasses the capabilities of Pakistan's Babur in range criteria.

 

[ssethii]

Also stop wasting your time on folks with substandard education. Always reason out using facts, credible evidences and literature. Since Pakistanis in general(this doesn't mean Indians don't get fanboyish, it's just that research culture in both India and Pakistan is world's apart and that leaves little room for conspiracy theories here) tend to believe more in fancy conspiracy theories, it is often wise to not discuss scientific things at all.

delusions of grandeur much?

 

[amardeep mishra]

delusions of grandeur much?

Hi @ssethii
In case you don't have anything substantial that is rooted in facts and is credible to contribute, I'd strongly urge you to not troll. You can choose to troll at other places where folks similar to your educational background comment. Thanks in advance!

 

[ssethii]

Hi @ssethii
In case you don't have anything substantial that is rooted in facts and is credible to contribute, I'd strongly urge you to not troll. You can choose to troll at other places where folks similar to your educational background comment. Thanks in advance!

And what that background would be Mr. Professor. Which mathematical equation would you rely on this time to prove the gem you have laid a couple of posts above?

 

[hussain0216]

Hi @ssethii
In case you don't have anything substantial that is rooted in facts and is credible to contribute, I'd strongly urge you to not troll. You can choose to troll at other places where folks similar to your educational background comment. Thanks in advance!

Excuse us, we are only speaking from years of experience

Lets give you an example

Arjun

Just search the name on this forum
From 2000 onwards thread after indian fanboy thread about how great it is
How awsome it is
How amazing it is
Oh my gosh the israelis have said its so good thats its like a desert ferrari
Oh dear lord its beaten T90s in all parameters

Guess what!!!

India Took 35 Years to Make Its First Tank (And It Was a Total Disaster)
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/india-took-35-years-make-its-first-tank-it-was-total-18499

Army's fleet of Arjun tanks face technical issues; major proportion of 124 tanks in service not operational
https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...-not-operational/amp_articleshow/47103764.cms


Reality v indian fanboyism



Now you tell us hero....

What should us poor uneducated Pakistanis do, accept more indian bull shit fanboyism as reality or tell you to stop wasting our time with INDIAN JUNK

 

[faithfulguy]

Also stop wasting your time on folks with substandard education. Always reason out using facts, credible evidences and literature. Since Pakistanis in general(this doesn't mean Indians don't get fanboyish, it's just that research culture in both India and Pakistan is world's apart and that leaves little room for conspiracy theories here) tend to believe more in fancy conspiracy theories, it is often wise to not discuss scientific things at all.

If India apply any critical thinking or simple logic. LCA, Arjun and all its failed projects would have been abandoned long time ago. These are the case studies of failed projects for defense companie’s meetings all across the world on when to cancel a project. Because when a project should be cancelled but the correct decisions were not taken, they end up with results like Arjun and LCA, failed project that got completed. So its a complete failure.

What’s worse than stop the failure is to complete the failure. Lessons from LCA, Arjun.

 

[hussain0216]

EXCLUSIVE: Big New Hurdle For India’s Arjun Battle Tank
Shiv AroorMar 13 2017 12 35 pm

India’s Arjun main battle tank, possibly the country’s longest and most trouble-ridden armament programme, has just hit the latest in a history of formidable hurdles. And it’s a big one. One that amplifies the programme’s inextricable quality as a faraway castle that will never be fully realised by its makers or embraced by its customer, a tragicomic meandering that began with a requirement, stupefyingly enough, right after India’s 1971 war with Pakistan. In the tech world, the Arjun would be veritably vaporware.


https://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/03/big-new-hurdle-for-indias-arjun-battle-tank.html

The above is for anyone who thinks Indian Junk MkII is any better



Stop your Nirbhays from crashing into the ground then come talk to us


Pakistan has had active cruise missiles for a decade now just FYI

 

[No to income tax]

Excuse us, we are only speaking from years of experience

Lets give you an example

Arjun

Just search the name on this forum
From 2000 onwards thread after indian fanboy thread about how great it is
How awsome it is
How amazing it is
Oh my gosh the israelis have said its so good thats its like a desert ferrari
Oh dear lord its beaten T90s in all parameters

Guess what!!!

India Took 35 Years to Make Its First Tank (And It Was a Total Disaster)
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/india-took-35-years-make-its-first-tank-it-was-total-18499

Army's fleet of Arjun tanks face technical issues; major proportion of 124 tanks in service not operational
https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...-not-operational/amp_articleshow/47103764.cms


Reality v indian fanboyism



Now you tell us hero....

What should us poor uneducated Pakistanis do, accept more indian bull shit fanboyism as reality or tell you to stop wasting our time with INDIAN JUNK

India's gargantuan Tank factory churned out 700 T-90s & 124Arjun in just 13 years (824 tanks) in addition to 650 tanks from Russia.

Whereas Pakistan managed to built a mere 350-360 MBT-2000s in same period.

 

[Spy Master]

Also stop wasting your time on folks with substandard education. Always reason out using facts, credible evidences and literature. Since Pakistanis in general(this doesn't mean Indians don't get fanboyish, it's just that research culture in both India and Pakistan is world's apart and that leaves little room for conspiracy theories here) tend to believe more in fancy conspiracy theories, it is often wise to not discuss scientific things at all.

Lol..don't overestimate yourself..If you know a little about a thing or two that doesn't mean you start considering others inferior or something like that...Scientific things, my foot...I have been with your famous uni IIT guys in facebook groups and discussed a lot of things in a Good environment with them during my graduation and I exactly know what this chest thumping and overconfidence came from and how much your graduates know about their fields. I remember how once @Oscar owned your sorry arse, so try to be humble here and again, don't over estimate yourself like you are second Einstien. Don't know why you Indians have habit of chest thumping.

 

[MimophantSlayer]

Of course there is a development process in Pakistan, our military, scientists, engineers jump through hoops to try and protect our homeland. Immense amount of work and effort goes into developing our cruise missiles, MIRV capable Ababeel or our battlefield nukes or anything

Its just that we dont bang our drums like idiots before we are ready to reveal the weapon

Babur has a range of 700km the technology involved is difficult to master, upto 700km its deadly and currently immense work is being undertaken to ensure that as the range increases its cruise missile characteristics arent ignored inthe race for distance.
This buddy is the Pakistani way of developing our weapons to kill hindu india, no chest thumping, no declarations of future 2000km targets, just hard work protecting Pakistan



ALL JUNK

Desert Ferrari all broke down
Insas was poorly made rubbish that jammed
Rustom and nishant all fell out of the sky
Tejas is a dead donkey you have now been flogging for 40 years, your latest plan is to make it medium weight after spending years trying to take weight off (& failing)

Arjun is back in service, but I understand your need to point out something that happened years ago.
Insas won us a war is still serving and kicking some well desrved terrorist @$$.
Rustom hasn't crashed once.
Tejas is an inducted into service, that alone should tell you that it succeeded. Rest of your post is factless, conjecture and opinion.

 

[Mrc]

That's not scientific at all....

U shud just believe what's being said