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so Wahhabi and Salafi are the same or are there some technical differences ?

@Zarvan
No difference only difference is Wahabi is term used by non Wahabis for those who call themselves Salafi . Wahabi basically is a derogatory term used by non Salafis or wahabis.

So where the majority is non muslim, the muslims dont have any rights in that land?
In UP India there is a district that has hindu majority but the HQ of district has 75% muslim population. So as a district its a non muslim land but as a city its a muslim land. should it also be liberated? Is Uyghur a muslim land or a non muslim land?
When majority is non Muslim than Muslims their have to try their level best to follow Islam avoid all Haram things and peacefully spread message of Islam, but the better option is to migrate to Muslim land.

You may ask him, but he won't tell you directly as he himself cannot differentiate between the two. In an earlier post he said he was a Salafi, and just minutes later in another post he said, he was a Wahhabi :D :D :D
Your massive ignorance keeps amazing me Wahabis is derogatory term used for Salafis by non Salafis like Sufis and Deoband and others. Salafi and Wahabi are same.

After Research ?
Yes after extensive study of basic sources such as Quran and Sunnah and life of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW his companions and family.
 
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I believe @Razia Sultana is new to her ancestors violent past :D :D :D
No no I am used to long debates in my ancestral house as to from where we came as part of some muslim army a few hundred years ago. I am amused to know that we originally belonged to somewhere someplace thats either in middle east or central asia. We also have an ancestral sword that is the most proud possession of my brother and he is ready to chop the head of anyone who eyes that sword.
Ever since a madrassa openned in my village, the little girls who always asked for latest fashion dresses from Bombay, now adorn burka at young age and are ready to teach me islam. But they do accept the latest bollywood dresses from their dear apa and wear them in the absence of their brothers... the young boys who always asked me if I am a neighbour of Salman, Amir or SRK and are they good looking enough to be a hero.... now they sport a weird beard, skull cap.
 
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No difference only difference is Wahabi is term used by non Wahabis for those who call themselves Salafi . Wahabi basically is a derogatory term used by non Salafis or wahabis.
Wahhabi is not derogatory term for a Salafi. Where did you get this from, Jihadi?
Wahhabism is named after an eighteenth-century preacher and scholar, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (1703–1792).[16] He started a revivalist movement in the remote, sparsely populated region of Najd,[17] advocating a purging of practices such as the popular "cult of saints", and shrine and tomb visitation, widespread among Muslims, but which he considered idolatry, impurities and innovations in Islam.[5][18]Eventually he formed a pact with a local leader Muhammad bin Saud offering political obedience and promising that protection and propagation of the Wahhabi movement would mean "power and glory" and rule of "lands and men."[19] The movement is centered on the principle of tawhid,[20] or the "uniqueness" and "unity" of God.[18] The movement also draws from the teachings of medieval theologian Ibn Taymiyyahand early jurist Ahmad ibn Hanbal.[21]
Wahhabism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So are you a Wahabi who believes in a political obedience to the Saudi Royal Family or a Salafi? :D :D :D


When majority is non Muslim than Muslims their have to try their level best to follow Islam avoid all Haram things and peacefully spread message of Islam, but the better option is to migrate to Muslim land.
And then declare Jihad against the former Non-Muslim Lands? :D :D :D

Your massive ignorance keeps amazing me Wahabis is derogatory term used for Salafis by non Salafis like Sufis and Deoband and others. Salafi and Wahabi are same.
Salafis and Wahhabis are not the same. You can be a Salafi without being obedient to the rule of Saudi Royal Family! :D :D :D

Yes after extensive study of basic sources such as Quran and Sunnah and life of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW his companions and family.
So you are also a fundamentalist and thus an extremist! :D :D :D
 
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When majority is non Muslim than Muslims their have to try their level best to follow Islam avoid all Haram things and peacefully spread message of Islam, but the better option is to migrate to Muslim land.
We are a muslim in a so called "non muslim" land and yet we follow islam and avoid haram. We live happily here and dont feel the need to migrate. Tell me where should we migrate if at all.... to iraq, syria, yemen, afghanistan or pakistan? which muslim land accepted the palestinians ousted by Israelis? which muslim land is accepting Rohingyas?
 
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Wahhabi is not derogatory term for a Salafi. Where did you get this from, Jihadi?

Wahhabism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So are you a Wahabi who believes in a political obedience to the Saudi Royal Family or a Salafi? :D :D :D



And then declare Jihad against the former Non-Muslim Lands? :D :D :D


Salafis and Wahhabis are not the same. You can be a Salafi without being obedient to the rule of Saudi Royal Family! :D :D :D


So you are also a fundamentalist and thus an extremist! :D :D :D
Those who study and do research know this. Salafis and Wahabis are same but I can't do anything about your ignorance.
 
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We are a muslim in a so called "non muslim" land and yet we follow islam and avoid haram. We live happily here and dont feel the need to migrate. Tell me where should we migrate if at all.... to iraq, syria, yemen, afghanistan or pakistan? which muslim land accepted the palestinians ousted by Israelis? which muslim land is accepting Rohingyas?
You think you are following Islam because you think Islam is limited to 5 pillars no lady you are completely wrong. Islam is a complete system it has economic system legal system and social system and government system. You can't follow Islam completely until you are living in Islamic state.
 
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You think you are following Islam because you think Islam is limited to 5 pillars no lady you are completely wrong. Islam is a complete system it has economic system legal system and social system and government system. You can't follow Islam completely until you are living in Islamic state.

There is a so called ISLAMIC STATE existing isnt it?
Do you think what they are doing is right? Their version of islam is the best?
Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is a Calph (though self proclaimed) isnt he? you should pledge allegience to him then.
 
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You think you are following Islam because you think Islam is limited to 5 pillars no lady you are completely wrong. Islam is a complete system it has economic system legal system and social system and government system. You can't follow Islam completely until you are living in Islamic state.

Islamic State... for a moment I thought ISIS. Can you tell me which muslim nations have complete islamic systems with regards to economic, legal, social and government systems? Is Pakistan a true islamic state in that sense? then whats that TTP wants to do in Pakistan?

You are dodging the question entirely. Muslim Aslaf adhered to a united Muslim Caliphate, not some monarchy of Royals from the House of Saud. Or for hypocrites like you, Islamic Sharia apply for everyone except Saudi Royals? :D :D :D
Frankly speaking most of the time I dont know who am i replying to as i just read a post and react. I have a very short memory on pdf.
 
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Islamic State... for a moment I thought ISIS. Can you tell me which muslim nations have complete islamic systems with regards to economic, legal, social and government systems? Is Pakistan a true islamic state in that sense? then whats that TTP wants to do in Pakistan?


Frankly speaking most of the time I dont know who am i replying to as i just read a post and react. I have a very short memory on pdf.
Yes Muslims nations don't have complete system right now but even in most Muslim nations you can follow Islam way better than under a Non Muslim state

There is a so called ISLAMIC STATE existing isnt it?
Do you think what they are doing is right? Their version of islam is the best?
Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is a Calph (though self proclaimed) isnt he? you should pledge allegience to him then.
They are idiots not Islamic State
 
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Nope. you are missing again. If you follow history, this is the seventh such exodus of Kashmiri Pundits, not the first one. At that time even India was not there. And I think some how you are justifying it.


And what about when non-muslims are killed by muslims ? Some of your fellow countrymen are justifying it in the case of exodus of Kashmiri Pundits.

You are taking whole of Kashmir issue to Kashmiri Pandit. And if Kashmiri Pandit were forced to leave their area, it means India should occupy Kashmir. Already India has seen in last 60 years Kashmir was on fire. I think only solution is give independence to both parts of Kashmir.
 
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You think you are following Islam because you think Islam is limited to 5 pillars no lady you are completely wrong. Islam is a complete system it has economic system legal system and social system and government system. You can't follow Islam completely until you are living in Islamic state.
And where exactly is such an Islamic State existing? :D

Can you tell me which muslim nations have complete islamic systems with regards to economic, legal, social and government systems? Is Pakistan a true islamic state in that sense? then whats that TTP wants to do in Pakistan?
Pakistan is an Islamic Republic, same as Iran. Its not an Islamic State like ISIS.

Yes Muslims nations don't have complete system right now but even in most Muslim nations you can follow Islam way better than under a Non Muslim state
Like being mutilated for petty crimes? Being flogged and caned on daily basis? Forced to wear hijab 24/7? Is this how Islam is practiced in Islamic States? :D

They are idiots not Islamic State
So where is an Islamic State?
 
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You are taking whole of Kashmir issue to Kashmiri Pandit. And if Kashmiri Pandit were forced to leave their area, it means India should occupy Kashmir. Already India has seen in last 60 years Kashmir was on fire. I think only solution is give independence to both parts of Kashmir.
Nope my question was to those people who always justifies violence against non-muslims by saying that they are occupying muslim lands. They always raise the issue of oppression of muslims. I am just saying that those muslims who are oppressed now were oppressors for last many years. why now crying fowl ? also if you really want to solve Kashmiri dispute, rehabilitate Kashmiri Pundits and non-muslims with compensation and then lets talk. also what guarantee is that after independence they leave the non-muslims ?
 
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