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next lal masjid ?masood azhar madrasa bahawalpur

that was 20yrs ago....and even those people are long dead now....

TTP and afghan taliban are two different things....afghan taliban has ISI backing, TTP does not, TTP and pakistan are enemies.

then there's local ISI-backed groups, lashkar-e-taiba etc aimed at india, kashmir etc..

If this mosque/madrasa is one of those, nothing can be done about it, it's state policy to support/operate such mosques and madrasas. The thing is that in a pak-india war, india will always have a numbers advantage, that's where paramilitary/jihadis come in handy and pakistan has a lot of experience with such tactics. So in a way these mosques/madrasas are simply assets/extensions of pakistan's security forces. They would work like reserves, and keep the india threat alive whether it's actually there or not....

If Haqqanis and mullah omars are alive today, what makes you think those Pakistanis who fought alongside Afghan Taliban died out by now? And you follow an outdated and deeply flawed ideology. If India sends in ground troops, we can always use nukes. Get up to date, it's no longer 60s and 70s anymore. Any ground invasion by India would lead to international intervention to prevent a nuclear war in the region.

And no these people are not assets in any way. They've become so powerful that they're above the common law now. They can literally kill you, and policemen wouldn't dare arrest them. Try messing with them in rural Punjab, and see for yourself. These people are all mercenaries, making money along with gaining power by brainwashing young and destitute people. The truth is, these people were made to get money from Saudi Arabians in the first place. Pakistan has never had a shortage of civilian volunteers. In 1965 war, Pir Pagaro's Hurs fought alongside Pakistan army in Rajasthan but of course the text books won't ever tell you that.
 
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that was 20yrs ago....and even those people are long dead now....

TTP and afghan taliban are two different things....afghan taliban has ISI backing, TTP does not, TTP and pakistan are enemies.

then there's local ISI-backed groups, lashkar-e-taiba etc aimed at india, kashmir etc..

If this mosque/madrasa is one of those, nothing can be done about it, it's state policy to support/operate such mosques and madrasas. The thing is that in a pak-india war, india will always have a numbers advantage, that's where paramilitary/jihadis come in handy and pakistan has a lot of experience with such tactics. So in a way these mosques/madrasas are simply assets/extensions of pakistan's security forces. They would work like reserves, and keep the india threat alive whether it's actually there or not....

These assets/extentions become shackles, a country loses freedom. Best reserve for Pakistan is people of Pakistan. Whenever there's need they will stand with army.

For this purpose there was NCC in colleges which was stopped. It was best option if there was requirement.
 
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These assets/extentions become shackles, a country loses freedom. Best reserve for Pakistan is people of Pakistan. Whenever there's need they will stand with army.

For this purpose there was NCC in colleges which was stopped. It was best option if there was requirement.

Excellent suggestion. I have gone through each and every post in this thread and my heart swells up with joy when I see most pakistanis in PDF do not distinguish b/w good and bad terrorists.

There are just a few bad apples but that's the case everywhere even in India where we have some Sikh, Hindu or Muslim nutjobs in the community. Statistically speaking such outliers are irrelevant.

Now my only hope is Pakistani Govt, Army and Intelligence Agencies take note of the wishes of people and eliminate all these extremist violent elements. The strategy of treating these terrorists as an extension of state assets is a dangerous and potentially fatal one.
 
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Yaar merey is thread me aane se pehle @RazPaK ban kyou ho gaya . Gali galaouz karke dono saath me bann hotey :cheesy::cheesy:
 
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what i seen in southren punjab is more then enough for me to learn where we are today


that is what i said to guy . police can not dare to enter inside but PAF can


i think his monthly released DVDs and weekly news paper in more then enough
Than you have been deceived by looks
 
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Pandits and Sufis pray in the same shrines in Kashmir

J&K: Muslims revive Hindu shrine after 20 years
thanks dear lets not respond to religious talk
I respect your faith and your holy places where ever they are. a peaceful and adult solution is needed for our disputes.

the thread is about brazen terrorism in Pakistan and their political backing. Army is still licking its wounds and Musharraf lost his rule due to attack on Red Mosque. we only got ourselves to blame on that but your state needs to help us in fight against terrorism instead of looking for opportunities to damage us which basically means that terrorists escape the net of both and hurt the people of both countries
 
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I am reminding you that Your Indian government paid a 'terrorist' and released him.

If you are so keen on not bowing to terrorists then you should have refused . Period.

And ohh phaleez your own PM Modi accepted backing and funding Indian state terrorism against Pakistan in East Pakistan so you have no face no morality to even talk about Pakistan.
Despite all, pakistani terrorists freed by hijacking a civilian plane by pakistani hijackers, held captive in a pakistan backed taliban in kandahar, roam free in you country... thats that.

Making a terrorist ur PM is a low in which no one in the entire world can beat u

P.M. is a terrorist? if you are refering to riots in gujrat, then you have other issues to deal with. Looks like you cannot diffrentiate between riots and state sponsored terrorism.
 
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Your own country released him also paid money so please go check how it reflects on your own country before accusing us.

Oh yes,

The allah directly parachuted the Indian citizens to Indian Jails like Masood Azhar and Omar Sheikh from heavens, by forging there passports.

Ofcourse, they are indian citizens, not Punjabi mercenaries .
 
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@Imran Khan his brother, who is one of hijackers ( can't remember his name ) has been spotted roaming Bahawalpur freely like a king. They publish 2 monthly magazines, 1 for kids and 1 for women. Nothing too much explicit as one might say but they still got some STUFF. I myself read an article supporting Lal Masjidans and bashing Army. And probably a newspaper too can't remember correctly now.

Gravest problem I see is the support by not just our typical kala dhan ameers trying to buy jannat, but some are highly educated influential people.
 
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@Imran Khan his brother, who is one of hijackers ( can't remember his name ) has been spotted roaming Bahawalpur freely like a king. They publish 2 monthly magazines, 1 for kids and 1 for women. Nothing too much explicit as one might say but they still got some STUFF. I myself read an article supporting Lal Masjidans and bashing Army. And probably a newspaper too can't remember correctly now.

Gravest problem I see is the support by not just our typical kala dhan ameers trying to buy jannat, but some are highly educated influential people.
Some no many those who are supporting are highly educated and super rich people
 
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Despite all, pakistani terrorists freed by hijacking a civilian plane by pakistani hijackers, held captive in a pakistan backed taliban in kandahar, roam free in you country... thats that.



P.M. is a terrorist? if you are refering to riots in gujrat, then you have other issues to deal with. Looks like you cannot diffrentiate between riots and state sponsored terrorism.

:lol: you bharotis are confused over your own citizens. Go take your time discuss wit each other if they are Indian citizens or Pakistanis.

As far as state terrorism is concerned well Gujrat was Indian state terrorism against own Indian citizens and in 71 it was Indian state terrorist against Pakistan by India

Oh yes,

The allah directly parachuted the Indian citizens to Indian Jails like Masood Azhar and Omar Sheikh from heavens, by forging there passports.

Ofcourse, they are indian citizens, not Punjabi mercenaries .
 
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:lol: you bharotis are confused over your own citizens. Go take your time discuss wit each other if they are Indian citizens or Pakistanis.

As far as state terrorism is concerned well Gujrat was Indian state terrorism against own Indian citizens and in 71 it was Indian state terrorist against Pakistan by India
But you started terrorism which is called as direct action day. Even before that you are doing terrorism. almost everyday. This terrorism is against everyone.
 
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inform ???????:hitwall::lol::lol::lol::lol:exactly 5km away :eek:
some 60000 pakistani solders based
  • XXXI Corps – headquartered at Bahawalpur
    • 26th Mechanized Division headquartered at Bahawalpur
    • 35th Infantry Division headquartered at Bahawalpur
    • 13th Independent Armoured Brigade
    • 101st Independent Infantry Brigade
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So either the Establishment is Hand in Glove with these terrorists... or the Establishment is complacent....there is no third explanation to it.
 
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:lol: you bharotis are confused over your own citizens. Go take your time discuss wit each other if they are Indian citizens or Pakistanis.
And you accepted our dump like Masood Azhar and Omar Sheikh in your country? But why Pakistan doing such favor to India? BTW, Thank you Pakistan for accepting our garbage. LoLz

As far as state terrorism is concerned well Gujrat was Indian state terrorism against own Indian citizens and in 71 it was Indian state terrorist against Pakistan by India

Even u not able to grasp what u typing. :rofl:

BTW, what was operational grandslam, angels from other side ? ofcourse they are.
 
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