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Did you get the Guptas though?
The wretched bastards are sitting in Dubai. Our govt agencies are incompetent to botch up. Now Dudu's murder docket is up. First we need to get Dudu/Zuma; what can we say when our own people feed parasites like Guptas. But we will get those bastards.
 
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The wretched bastards are sitting in Dubai. Our govt agencies are incompetent to botch up. Now Dudu's murder docket is up. First we need to get Dudu/Zuma; what can we say when our own people feed parasites like Guptas. But we will get those bastards.
One thing I like about SA is the courts are so independent. Anyway, I don't see why Dubai aiding Guptas and not extradite him. Are they linked to some big fat prince?
 
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One thing I like about SA is the courts are so independent. Anyway, I don't see why Dubai aiding Guptas and not extradite him. Are they linked to some big fat prince?
They probably paid off someone but the proceedings to get them extradited are in progress. Plus now with Dudu their accomplice who ran down 2 innocent people is now up for murder charges; his time is due.
 
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yes 5% in China as interest rate is very low.

yes 5% in China as interest rate is already very low.
You can not get 5% if you want to buy your second appartment,it should be 6.5%.
Jap is different,in Jap,the deposit rate is -0.25%,you see it right,-0.25%!

And the loan rate are around 1.4% in Jap.

China is a country with rapid economic growth, and loans are in short supply.

The People's Bank of China (China Central Bank) 2018 latest bank deposit and loan benchmark interest rate table

Various deposit rates (ordinary individuals):
Demand deposit 0.35%
Time deposit
Three-month deposit rate 1.10%
Half-year deposit interest rate 1.30%
One year deposit interest rate 1.50%
Two-year deposit rate 2.10%
Three-year deposit rate 2.75%


Various loan interest rates (ordinary individuals):
More than one year (including one year) loan 4.35%
One to five years (including five years) loans 4.75%
More than five years loan interest rate 4.90%


Wow. How do ordinary people afford properties there with such high interest rates?
You forget CHina has 1.4 billions people,you can not afford it but somebody else can!
Plus,you want 5% to get loans,other people would like to pay 6% interest rate to get more.
In a word,China is a country where loans are in short supply.
This is why many Chinese do not understand and are confused: why should China provide a low-interest loan of 2.5% for 30 years to build railways in other countries.
And sometimes China been called economical invaision!
If I am the Governor of the Bank of China, I will issue all the loans to the Chinese at a rate of 4.9%, instead of sending them to foreigners at low interest rates such as 2.2% or 2.5% for Thailand.

THis is not over.
The short-term loan interest rate between Chinese private companies is between 10-25%, and the annual rate of private illegal loans can even reach 36%.



What is irritating is that the Thai government still feels that the 2.5% interest rate is very high. They hope that Chinese companies will not make profits by building railways in Thailand.
 
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yes 5% in China as interest rate is very low.

yes 5% in China as interest rate is already very low.
You can not get 5% if you want to buy your second appartment,it should be 6.5%.
Jap is different,in Jap,the deposit rate is -0.25%,you see it right,-0.25%!

And the loan rate are around 1.4% in Jap.

China is a country with rapid economic growth, and loans are in short supply.

The People's Bank of China (China Central Bank) 2018 latest bank deposit and loan benchmark interest rate table

Various deposit rates (ordinary individuals):
Demand deposit 0.35%
Time deposit
Three-month deposit rate 1.10%
Half-year deposit interest rate 1.30%
One year deposit interest rate 1.50%
Two-year deposit rate 2.10%
Three-year deposit rate 2.75%


Various loan interest rates (ordinary individuals):
More than one year (including one year) loan 4.35%
One to five years (including five years) loans 4.75%
More than five years loan interest rate 4.90%



You forget CHina has 1.4 billions people,you can not afford it but somebody else can!
Plus,you want 5% to get loans,other people would like to pay 6% interest rate to get more.
In a word,China is a country where loans are in short supply.
This is why many Chinese do not understand and are confused: why should China provide a low-interest loan of 2.5% for 30 years to build railways in other countries.
And sometimes China been called economical invaision!
If I am the Governor of the Bank of China, I will issue all the loans to the Chinese at a rate of 4.9%, instead of sending them to foreigners at low interest rates such as 2.2% or 2.5% for Thailand.

THis is not over.
The short-term loan interest rate between Chinese private companies is between 10-25%, and the annual rate of private illegal loans can even reach 36%.



What is irritating is that the Thai government still feels that the 2.5% interest rate is very high. They hope that Chinese companies will not make profits by building railways in Thailand.

So if you're getting a loan of 2million RMB to purchase a property in Shenzhen, you're paying above 90K RMB of interest every year at the start?
 
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So if you're getting a loan of 2million RMB to purchase a property in Shenzhen, you're paying above 90K RMB of interest every year at the start?


This depends on the various conditions of your loan:
1) How long is it:
10 years
20 years
30 years。。。。。。
2) Which bank
ICBC
Construction Bank
Jiangsu Bank
Shanghai Bank。。。。。。
3) The purchases times
First home purchase
Second home purchase。。。
4) Loan method
Pure commercial loan
Housing provident fund loan(3.25% at highest)
Commercial frame and provident fund combination。。。。

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In China's current interest rate environment, the loan is 2 million yuan, the repayment period is 30 years, and the repayment principal and interest amount is 3.47 million yuan. after the loan done,every month starts with a monthly repayment of 10,614 yuan.

In China's current interest rate environment, the loan is 2 million yuan, the repayment period is 20 years, and the repayment principal and interest amount is 2.98 million yuan. after the loan done,every month starts with a monthly repayment of 13,088 yuan.

In China's current interest rate environment, the loan is 2 million yuan, the repayment period is 10 years, and the repayment principal and interest amount is 2.49 million yuan. after the loan done,every month starts with a monthly repayment of 21,115 yuan.

Wow. How do ordinary people afford properties there with such high interest rates?
I myself has made a loan contract with Jiangsu Bank since 2013.
Total amount 130 000 yuans RMB(Ialready paid 75% of the total price,si the loan is minor),10 year reparment periode and total interest amount:39 500 Yuans RMB(As my first appartment purchasing,Jiangsu bank granted me a discount of 15% of interest rate,if not the interest amount should be 45000 yuans for this 10 years loan.Now ,it is hard to get interest rate discount even if its your first purchase coz money values more and more in China. )
I started to pay every month 1420 RMB to jiangsu bank since 2013 september .
 
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http://newz.ug/chinese-debt-trap-how-china-is-using-loans-to-take-over-africas-natural-resources/

June 26, 2018


By Edison Simon Waya
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The recent decade has seen China position herself as the go to money lender for the African continent. China has become a bank which any African state can walk into and receive any loan amount it so desires.
Unlike the western countries, when giving loans the Chinese do not attach politically leaning conditions and they do not interfere with local politics which African leaders have loved about Chinese loans.

A clear example of the western conditional loans is when in February of 2014, Uganda passed a controversial anti-gay bill into law and this did not sit well with the western powers who choose to react by freezing a World Bank loan of $90 million to Uganda and other European countries like Norway followed suit by withdrawing direct government aid of $8.3 million to Uganda.
Sweden withdrew aid of $10.1 million and Netherlands withdrew $9.6 million. Denmark and Norway withdrew 17 million meant for government NGOs and civil society organizations in Uganda. The USA suspended $13.4 million from its running programmes in Uganda and also withdrew $6.4 million from the Inter religious Council of Uganda. The USA withdrew a further $3 million meant for tourism and biodiversity protection. By passing the anti-gay bill into law, Uganda lost at least $157.8 million in aid which is not the case when it comes to Chinese loans.

The Chinese have also gotten more African clients for its loan business due to their willingness to lend to corrupt and politically unstable African countries which the western countries tend to avoid.
The Chinese unlike the west are also willing to secure their loans with natural resources or a huge chuck of shares in the infrastructure they have built. Now the Chinese being the default lenders to the continent they drive a hard bargain and unlike the Western countries who give lower interest rates and forgiveness of loans, the Chinese interest rates are too high and can reach up to 56.3% interest rate. Which in layman’s terms means if you borrow 1,000,000 Ugx from the Chinese you can pay back 1,563,000 Ugx plus interest.
These kind of terms have driven many African countries into a mountain of debt that they end up defaulting. Now when an African country defaults on a loan which is backed by natural resources the Chinese take over the natural resource until they have made back their loan with interest.

A case in point is Angola which defaulted on a Chinese loan of $25 billion which was backed by Angolan oil. The Chinese then asked to be paid back in crude oil and this has seen majority of the Angolan oil being shipped to China to service the debt and has left very little oil for the Angolan government to sell and support its people.
Angola as a country has in recent history been ravaged by war till 2002 and has little alternatives in supporting its economy besides oil. Their government aimed at diversifying their economy and since most of their oil goes to China to service a debt they had no choice but to go back to china for loans to diversify their economy and accumulated another debt of $4.4 billion which has now trapped the Angolan government and its people in the Chinese debt trap. They literally cannot afford to pay their way out of the Chinese debt.

The Angolans are not the only victims of the Chinese debt trap other countries have fallen victim too. Djibouti lost a seaport to Chinese debts, South Africa and DR Congo have lost infrastructure and natural resources respectively to the Chinese debt. All sub-Saharan countries have accumulated Chinese debt and financial experts are warning of a looming debt crisis in Africa due to the Chinese debt.

Off the continent other countries like Pakistan have started turning down Chinese loans after realizing the deadly effects of the Chinese debt to their economy. In Sri Lanka, they are about to give up 80% of their sea port to China after defaulting on about $8 billion to China. The Chinese debt trap has pushed oil rich Venezuela into a near collapse of its economy due to the burden of the Chinese debt. The Chinese government has made this problem even worse by refusing to cooperate with other governments that aid and give loans to Africa. To this day they refuse to abide to regulation and partnering with other governments in their endeavors in poorer economies.
56 percent holly shitzz
 
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I m afraid same thing being done to Pakistan too. Heavy investments and loans will be used to get geopolitical and geostrategic gains.
No problem.
It is clearly a case of Imperialism to borrow money to another country for investments,
and the results can be Nationalized in 20-30 years.
Plenty of good examples:

  • Suez Canal
  • Iranian Oil
 
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lol India is not the second largest share holder. India has yet to pay that 8.3 billion dollars to become a share holder.
Read the news again India has committed so become a share holder when you pay the money. The word says commits that means not paid and yet to pay. India commits many thing but never pays. It is Modi strategy to get in good economic news.

India commits $ 8 billion to China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank

https://www.indiatoday.in/business/...-infrastructure-development-260299-2015-06-29
Did you even checked the date of that article ...29-6-2015...


https://thediplomat.com/2017/05/aii...o-india-the-banks-second-largest-shareholder/
 
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Changzhou, Jiangsu, China.
To put it simply, the total value of this apartment has increased from 520,000 RMB to 750,000 RMB so far.

In the west direction of shanghai ,around 125km directly away from shanghai,50km from Suzhou

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WOW, the price of the apartment is almost as expensive as a middle size apartment in HK, what is the average income range in shanghai? And is that true many young people in Shanghai already own an apartment or two before marriage? Sorry for the silly questions, since I have a Uncle who has a wife from Shanghai and sometime he talks about thing like that. My father had been in Shanghai eight year ago, and he said Shanghai has been already better or more advanced (city planning and infrastructure) than HK at that time.
 
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