New Taliban group with new chief formed in SWA

[waraich66]

Well here is some misunderstanding. NWFP/Sarhad is different from FATA. Pushtuns reside in both the places, all of them are loyal to pakistan except for the mehsud tribe as their tribe has been hijacked by TTP. Mehsud tribes think that we are the enemy(we includes other pushtun tribes like orakzai agency e.t.c) and this is why they are fighting but now some elements is mehsud tribes have realized what TTP is and this is why we are all seeing these new groups.

Mian Sb,

TTP is a Indian supported organisation, local tribes are not supporting them ,we need to identify the our enemies first.

The swat situation is different .Swat was an independent state but it later joined pakistan.There problem was that nizam-e-adl was not implemented and they were fed of regular court systems.TTP hijacked their movement but now nizam-e-adl(not the TTP version) will be implemented by the government.

In SWAT fazullah is main player but getting support from TTP. My question is who is giving arms to Fazullah ?

BTW Muse being a pushtun i find your comments somewhat offensive. We in no way want to be part of greater pushtunistan and we are loyal to the pakistani cause.

Agreed, all pushtoon are loyal to Pakistan but if GOP is loyal to US , then they have right of to oppose our pro US policies.

Miscreant elements are also present in Sindh(sindhu desh or whatever it was),balauchistan(BLA) and Punjab( lashker-e-jhangvi)

Dont mix sindh or balouchistan movements with FATA tribes , they are purly base on sindhi and balouchi nationalism or race.

Lasker jhangvi was religious movement started to resist Iraian revolution influence in Pakistan .

 

[Zulfiqar]

TTP is a Indian supported organisation, local tribes are not supporting them ,we need to identify the our enemies first

I am not mixing them up and i know who supports them.i am just saying that the tribals are not bad but some elements are who have hijacked the tribes and give a bad name to the whole community.However, the tribes are now getting more aware of the situation.

In SWAT fazullah is main player but getting support from TTP. My question is who is giving arms to Fazullah ?

The indians support them.But still nizam-e-adl was legitimate requirement of the people(even accepted by the government) but the Swat militants showed the swatis "harey bagh".Now the facts are clear.Swat will be cleared of the militants and swatis will get their rights.

Dont mix sindh or balouchistan movements with FATA tribes , they are purly base on sindhi and balouchi nationalism or race.

Lasker jhangvi was religious movement started to resist Iraian revolution influence in Pakistan .

I am not.My point was that miscreants are present everywhere regardless of the reason of their cause.

 

[Watani]

@Muse
Your knowledge about Pashtuns is extremely low. In Afghanistan they are majority and did everything to keep others happy but nothing seemed to work, and after arrival of Taliban many Pashtuns had it with the Northern Afghans and therefore suggested separation. As in for Pashtuns in Pakistan, when Pakistan was created only 600.000 Pashtuns were given referendum to vote for either stay with Pakistan or India. Most of them wanted an independent state which wasn't given as an option and when they wanted to name NWFP as Pashtunistan, again they got refused. The Pakistani government has pretty much ignored the Pashtuns, just like Northern Alliance is right now in Afghanistan, and that's what makes majority Pashtuns so furious and join the wrong path. All Pashtuns will fight for Pakistan, IF your government just once hears their demand out.

 

[LiberalPakistani]

lolzz... what a joker!!

btw i think Operation Nijaat is been slowed down.. and also i think there is something going on between waziristani taliban groups and ISI.. Let see

ISI senior officals have given a task to take US out of this region so far July is the deadliest month in the whole 8years of occupation.ISI is ingnoring Gov't calls for help of US because ISI put Pakistan first and our Gov'ts put money first.I hope US Marines are ready to put up a fight this summer is going to be hard.

 

[Patriot]

Muse,
Pakistan cannot use force on All Pushtun tribes..We'll have to reconcile because there are huge number of Pushtuns in Pakistan's security Establishment and decision making establishment.Besides, the only way to end this WOT is negotiate with reconcileables ie Mullah Omar, S Haqqani, Hikmayar and other tribes and eliminate those who are not willing to reconcile ie TTP!and all Pushtuns are not terrorists that we use force on all of them.Force will only create more problems.

 

[moha199]

Pakistan could never impress pushtoon tribes of FATA with force.We muslim are all like brothers.

Strongest bond between Pakistan and FATA tribes is islam, we should develop mutual trust by practicing basic fundamental of islam.

Power and money game will not work in FATA.

I wish it was like that my brother but it's not. You don't keep a country on the behalf of Religion. You need nationalism. What taliban did a little a while ago, don't you remember. It was only on the name of Is;am. I also say that the enemies of Islam are hijaking Islam through these terrorist groups so, My say is this. Build the country on the behalf of Pakistan no religion no nationality. Our religion also tells us the same.

 

[moha199]

ISI senior officals have given a task to take US out of this region so far July is the deadliest month in the whole 8years of occupation.ISI is ingnoring Gov't calls for help of US because ISI put Pakistan first and our Gov'ts put money first.I hope US Marines are ready to put up a fight this summer is going to be hard.

Bro where did you get this information from? Is it your personal opinion?

 

[waraich66]

I wish it was like that my brother but it's not. You don't keep a country on the behalf of Religion. You need nationalism. What taliban did a little a while ago, don't you remember. It was only on the name of Is;am. I also say that the enemies of Islam are hijaking Islam through these terrorist groups so, My say is this. Build the country on the behalf of Pakistan no religion no nationality. Our religion also tells us the same.

You are right because your brought up is in USA.Where many nationalities and religions have to live together as per American constitution.

Better read history of independence of Pakistan.Pakistan is only country in the world got independence based on islamic ideaology(two nation theory).

Independence of Pakistan is miracle , and we sacrificed our families for creation of islamic state, so concept of country without islam is not acceptable to us.

Islam is our life line ,we live and die for islam and ready to sacrifice every thing for islamic republic of Pakistan.