New Pak-Indo Cold War

[Uzair Shafiq [Босс]]

You must be of Pak origin. I detect a deathwish - hallmark of most Pakistanis on this forum. It is born out of ignorance, hate (actually extreme hate in part reinforced thru religious idioms), bravado and an undeserved self importance not shared by the rest of the world except as an epicenter of terror. God knows how many times Pakistanis have to try to remind the rest of the world "Hey look here I am a nuclear power."

wtf?

 

[Menace2Society]

You must be of Pak origin. I detect a deathwish - hallmark of most Pakistanis on this forum. It is born out of ignorance, hate (actually extreme hate in part reinforced thru religious idioms), bravado and an undeserved self importance not shared by the rest of the world except as an epicenter of terror. God knows how many times Pakistanis have to try to remind the rest of the world "Hey look here I am a nuclear power."

Its funny that you have grown up in an environment where it has seen as acceptable for complete open genocide and rape on Kashmiris. Whats even more morally sickening is there is complete lack of recognition for their suffering within India.

In Pakistan when somebody is suffering they are all over media and huge issue is made out of it. In India so many innocent people will die but nobody to care.

You talk about others and hate when there is such deep rooted racial hatred within India that it can willingly ignore genocide or run over poor dalits or gangrape a defenseless woman in broad daylight. They might not say it to your face but the world knows exactly what India have done in Kashmir and are horrified. India surely is the original epicenter of terrorism right from independence.

 

[Viper0011.]

You must be of Pak origin. I detect a deathwish - hallmark of most Pakistanis on this forum. It is born out of ignorance, hate (actually extreme hate in part reinforced thru religious idioms), bravado and an undeserved self importance not shared by the rest of the world except as an epicenter of terror. God knows how many times Pakistanis have to try to remind the rest of the world "Hey look here I am a nuclear power."

Where do you get any religious element in my post??? I've seen a LOT of blind, silly patriots from India, but there are some, who act total fools. And this post, probably sounds like one of those writings.

And yes, Pakistan WAS considered the epicenter of Terror until about 2012. Since the democracy and the country's resolve to take out extremism, its not the case anymore. Frankly speaking, India's taken Pakistan's previous position in terms of in tolerance and religious extremism. Where else, the elected government openly says 2030 means everyone's a Hindu in India (the SAME government and its leadership which has been a part of the Hindu terrorists who've killed millions of Christians + Sikhs + Muslims over the decades)????

No where in the world any country forces through its government, killing of its OWN citizens because they happen to be Christians and Muslims. ONLY in India....you find that. There is a reason why President Obama to UK's leadership to EU's leaders have ALL told India to make sure the minorities are safe in India. Last year, the POPE had to call Indian PM to ask him to make sure that the Christian villages were protected and that thousands of Christians fled their homes and took refuse in jungles to save their lives, and the Indian government needs to safeguard these people. Going on to the Muslim minorities in India.....well, how many hundreds of thousands have been killed by the extremist likes of BJP, Shiv Sena, RSS???? Women raped in India and Kashmir, Children (male) killed?

You think this isn't terrorism? And you have the sense (or lack there of) to tell me my post had any religious element? The ONLY religious element at this time in the entire globe is in India. Hindutva followers want all other religions converted to Hinduism, or persecuted and killed. Fools from the Indian government and its Hindu extremist ideology are
claiming the Jets, Mercedes Benz SLR's, Brittany Spears, the Space Shuttle and the IPAD all existed in the "vedic" times and were used by Hindus. And that all others should be converted to Hinduism or killed???? REALLY????

So when Hindu extremists kill other civilians, its not terrorism. But when other kill anyone, out of your personal arrogance and bigotry...that's a terrorist??? To the world, the Hindu killing civilians from other religions is just as big of a terrorist as anyone from Al-Qaeda.

But India has its own share in there too. There was a reason why President Obama, the EU, the UK and everyone in the modern economic times have told India to protect its citizens and to allow real democratic rule. No where in the world has religious intolerance and extremism ever helped anyone (take a look at your neighbor, Pakistan), so it won't help India either.

My prediction is, from 2025 onwards, the world will deal with another nationalistic / extremism threat similar to that idiot Hitler. It'll be in the shape of Hinduism, which under its "economy high" would want to convert the entire globe or at least its neighbors forcefully to Hinduism. The signs are all there.

 

[punit]

Where do you get any religious element in my post??? I've seen a LOT of blind, silly patriots from India, but there are some, who act total fools. And this post, probably sounds like one of those writings.

And yes, Pakistan WAS considered the epicenter of Terror until about 2012. Since the democracy and the country's resolve to take out extremism, its not the case anymore. Frankly speaking, India's taken Pakistan's previous position in terms of in tolerance and religious extremism. Where else, the elected government openly says 2030 means everyone's a Hindu in India (the SAME government and its leadership which has been a part of the Hindu terrorists who've killed millions of Christians + Sikhs + Muslims over the decades)????

No where in the world any country forces through its government, killing of its OWN citizens because they happen to be Christians and Muslims. ONLY in India....you find that. There is a reason why President Obama to UK's leadership to EU's leaders have ALL told India to make sure the minorities are safe in India. Last year, the POPE had to call Indian PM to ask him to make sure that the Christian villages were protected and that thousands of Christians fled their homes and took refuse in jungles to save their lives, and the Indian government needs to safeguard these people. Going on to the Muslim minorities in India.....well, how many hundreds of thousands have been killed by the extremist likes of BJP, Shiv Sena, RSS???? Women raped in India and Kashmir, Children (male) killed?

You think this isn't terrorism? And you have the sense (or lack there of) to tell me my post had any religious element? The ONLY religious element at this time in the entire globe is in India. Hindutva followers want all other religions converted to Hinduism, or persecuted and killed. Fools from the Indian government and its Hindu extremist ideology are
claiming the Jets, Mercedes Benz SLR's, Brittany Spears, the Space Shuttle and the IPAD all existed in the "vedic" times and were used by Hindus. And that all others should be converted to Hinduism or killed???? REALLY????

So when Hindu extremists kill other civilians, its not terrorism. But when other kill anyone, out of your personal arrogance and bigotry...that's a terrorist??? To the world, the Hindu killing civilians from other religions is just as big of a terrorist as anyone from Al-Qaeda.

But India has its own share in there too. There was a reason why President Obama, the EU, the UK and everyone in the modern economic times have told India to protect its citizens and to allow real democratic rule. No where in the world has religious intolerance and extremism ever helped anyone (take a look at your neighbor, Pakistan), so it won't help India either.

My prediction is, from 2025 onwards, the world will deal with another nationalistic / extremism threat similar to that idiot Hitler. It'll be in the shape of Hinduism, which under its "economy high" would want to convert the entire globe or at least its neighbors forcefully to Hinduism. The signs are all there.

thats one damn good peace pipe u are having sir ! please keep us entertained!

 

[nair]

The greater hatred is a consequence of the media and the internet which will only grow till it reaches the point of no return.

Well the way things are going, soon we will reach the point of no return (if we have not reached already)......... Every day there is something or other....... Our media is famous for doing this, but now i see their counterparts in Pak also taken a cue and doing the same........ God bless us.....

 

[SQ8]

Well the way things are going, soon we will reach the point of no return (if we have not reached already)......... Every day there is something or other....... Our media is famous for doing this, but now i see their counterparts in Pak also taken a cue and doing the same........ God bless us.....

It is inevitable that massive blood be shed in the subcontinent before it settles into a new era of prosperity. Europe has undergone these cycles already. We need them badly.

 

[nair]

It is inevitable that massive blood be shed in the subcontinent before it settles into a new era of prosperity. Europe has undergone these cycles already. We need them badly.

What makes you feel that we will change after we shed those "massive blood"?????? If that was the case we have fought 4 wars at least and numerous proxy wars..... and we did shed lot of blood already.........

 

[Blue Sword]

What makes you feel that we will change after we shed those "massive blood"?????? If that was the case we have fought 4 wars at least and numerous proxy wars..... and we did shed lot of blood already.........

Nair saab my feeling is the same. We already had 4 wars!!! Instead of war we need development and stable democratic government in both country. The priority of both country will change as our economy gets better. South Asian geopolitics is changing rapidly, cooperation among the countries is increasing. Hope some good thing will happen in the coming years.

 

[Salik]

Yes there no new cold war, old repeated actions and counter reactions. Bring something new people. India and Pakistan's relation is like husband and wife, fall in love with the same person again and again : ) Show some maturity in relation now. Please.

 

[B+ Dracula]

I fear Modi will take form of HITLER soon......He raised to power with similar footprints of Hitler by chanting the slogan of Pure Blood of Aryan German vs Pure HINDUISM slogan by RSS

Like...Hitler was

a) from Poor background.....(modi too)

b) One step ahead of NATIONALISM...labeled Jews as traitor......(same with MODI case...who seemz to pay any price in the form of bloodshed & butchering of his own countrymen)

c) Hitler was from NAZI fascist party...and Modi from RSS (same approach)
NITZECHE philosophy vis-a-vis Shudhi, Sunghtan movement

d) Modi right now Planning to earn some Moral Ground (like betterment of economy) that can further lead him to earn title of FUHRER (hindu avatar)...and that will be a point of no return for him

 

[SQ8]

You must be of Pak origin. I detect a deathwish - hallmark of most Pakistanis on this forum. It is born out of ignorance, hate (actually extreme hate in part reinforced thru religious idioms), bravado and an undeserved self importance not shared by the rest of the world except as an epicenter of terror. God knows how many times Pakistanis have to try to remind the rest of the world "Hey look here I am a nuclear power."

Funny, I see in most Indians here..

OMG.. we're the same!!.

The Horror.. the Horror.

 

[MilSpec]

The problem is that the "bogyman" in this case, actually exists.....inside Baluchistan through Iran, inside KPK and Sindh through Afghanistan and Karachi fishing harbors, and through 50 "cultural centers" created right on the edge of Afghanistan's border with Pakistan (50 cultural centers serving a mountainous area which may have less than 2% of the population with means to actually ever travel to India to show need for such "cultural centers").

These 50 centers (institutes by themselves), are training camps for the bogyman to create more bogymen, only to weaken Pakistan through terrorism, by killing its civilians and to terrorize the country and stop the economic development. That's just the reality.

The problem is, the bogyman is miscalculating a war type scenario. The hope is a "limited scale ware" which to the bogyman, will end to India's advantage due to India's conventional superiority, resulting in much destruction of Pakistan's major military assets. What the bogyman (like many other bogymen from the history), isn't calculating (due to being "power high"), is the fact that how the other side might respond to certain events. At the end, the limited scale conflict may escalate extremely quickly to a level which will be remembered in the human history as the largest catastrophic event, created by man. This is why the Western media, journalists and everyone in the defense arena always put South East Asia as the most sensitive flashing point for nuclear conflict.

The time has come that both sides realize they are involved in a never ending conflict they are playing as a game. The size of land and military don't matter anymore. What matters is millions of human lives on the brink and innocent civilians should never lose their lives no matter what. Both the countries need to show maturity and deal with each other through dialogue and jointly developed strategies as a war won't have a winner. A competition in economic and business related activities might serve everyone some real good, safe and productive alternative.

What's a "bogyman"....?
All I know of Bogy is a village around Valence...


Also can you reference the 50 cultural centers that you refer to?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It is inevitable that massive blood be shed in the subcontinent before it settles into a new era of prosperity. Europe has undergone these cycles already. We need them badly.

Like in Europe and East Asia, a war so terrible that all sides were convinced never to push their region into war again.

 

[SQ8]

Like in Europe and East Asia, a war so terrible that all sides were convinced never to push their region into war again.

Exactly, one where every household is affected. People dont change unless they experience personal pain.

 

[Viper0011.]

What's a "bogyman"....?
All I know of Bogy is a village around Valence...

Also can you reference the 50 cultural centers that you refer to?

"Bogeyman"......you don't know what it is, but you used the term in many places? Its a reference to a scary character that people used to blame stuff on or to get children scared when they do stupid stuff. You know that. I thought you were using British English spellings or Indian English spelling (using Bogyman, when we in the US use Bogeyman instead).

On 50 cultural center, google it and ask other members on here who are from Pakistan's military background. The world has heard of these cultural centers a LOT as these increased terrorism activity in Pakistan many-folds in the past few years.