New improved North Korean Main Battle tanks

[The SC]

What are your thoughts about this new concept of each Tank carrying its own short range air defence and ATGMs?

 

[Hassan Guy]

Interesting

 

[YeBeWarned]

in short they put everything on a tank ..

 

[HannibalBarca]

in short they put everything on a tank ..

A heli dock someday...

 

[BHarwana]

That seems like an advance version of soviet anti-air missile. The type which was heavily used in Vietnam against USA. These missile were very accurate against Helicopter but flares were the best counter measures now if these tank mounted anti air is multi-spectrum then Helos have no chance against these tanks as the end game will rest on range now.

 

[BHarwana]

Has any one noticed a small camera above the anti-Air missile. Now if North Korea is under sanctions and they have those FLIR multi-spectrum sights that means either North is advancing very quickly or some one is helping them with thermal Imagery and either that is France or Kazakhstan.

 

[masud]

Any idea about the total crew member? because all system controled by 3 person is quiet problamatic, i think......
but any t-14 type automation and computing system can help this system to minimize the crew member. any way a good consept........

 

[LeGenD]

That seems like an advance version of soviet anti-air missile. The type which was heavily used in Vietnam against USA. These missile were very accurate against Helicopter but flares were the best counter measures now if these tank mounted anti air is multi-spectrum then Helos have no chance against these tanks as the end game will rest on range now.

Helicopter defenses weren't very good back then.

Helicopters were also utilized extensively for the first time in a war. You learn a few things from experience only.

It is not practical to defeat a modern helo with an MBT.

Has any one noticed a small camera above the anti-Air missile. Now if North Korea is under sanctions and they have those FLIR multi-spectrum sights that means either North is advancing very quickly or some one is helping them with thermal Imagery and either that is France or Kazakhstan.

China has been a reliable source of supply for some parts. Smuggling might be factor too.

NK has some sort of industry of its own. Years of sanctions motivate you to reinvent the wheel if necessary.

 

[The SC]

Has any one noticed a small camera above the anti-Air missile. Now if North Korea is under sanctions and they have those FLIR multi-spectrum sights that means either North is advancing very quickly or some one is helping them with thermal Imagery and either that is France or Kazakhstan.

Yes I have noticed that..have you noticed the radar?

 

[BHarwana]

Yes I have noticed that..have you noticed the radar?

No I have not. where is it?

 

[The SC]

No I have not. where is it?

Just to the right of the main gun..
I know that some old soviet tanks had light projectors, but then it did not make sense anymore, and with those air defence short range missiles, a radar makes much more sense on top of the optical components..

Stupidity indeed a single hit cause too much damage to many systems installed means single loss of tank means loss of two or three other systems.

That is true in a sense, but those systems enhance the survivability of the Tank too.. meaning without them you might lose 10 tanks to Attack helicopter, and with them you might lose utmost 2 or 3 tanks and at the same time you have eliminated a few helicopters.. the same applies to longer range than the main gun ATGMs..

 

[The SC]

Instead they should change main gun to fire ATGM and for air defense separate support systems always best options.
My suggestion for them to improve Armour add ERA plates or simply change turret with new design.

They have other mobile air defences and improved an armour that you can see on the tanks in the second picture..

 

[Oldman1]

That is true in a sense, but those systems enhance the survivability of the Tank too.. meaning without them you might lose 10 tanks to Attack helicopter, and with them you might lose utmost 2 or 3 tanks and at the same time you have eliminated a few helicopters.. the same applies to longer range than the main gun ATGMs..

There is a reason why the U.S., Russia, and China and other countries don't make something like this. It makes it more complicated or complex.

You want anti air vehicles to protect tanks or other vehicles? You get something like these.

 

[The SC]

There is a reason why the U.S., Russia, and China and other countries don't make something like this. It makes it more complicated or complex.

You want anti air vehicles to protect tanks or other vehicles? You get something like these.

Yes true, still these North Koreans did come up with an innovative approach.. you can be sure that they have the Pantsir or its equivalent, heck they have got a Topol like ICBM!!!
Besides that these tanks might be for a specialised shock brigade or division, as one can see different, more conventional tanks in the second picture..

 

[BHarwana]

Just to the right of the main gun..
I know that some old soviet tanks had light projectors, but then it did not make sense anymore, and with those air defence short range missiles, a radar makes much more sense on top of the optical components..

You mean the round object to the left of the main gun. It seems like a radar. If it is a RADAR it has nothing to do with air i thing that radar is there to make precision hit on an enemy tank. This is quite an innovation of fitting a small anti helo system on a tank. The twin rockets are quite helpful to make a kill after the first rocket falling for the flares the second rocket can take the kill.