Never negotiated with TTP : imran khan

[Neelo]

Had the issues with negotiation before and even now.

Kill their leaders, take out their supply chain and patrol the territory with drones. Blow up anyone getting 10 meters of the fencing. This is your solution to TTP. Make their casualties so high, it becomes impossible to sustain the operations.

How did that work for the Americans in Afghanistan in regards to the Afghan Taliban? Grant it, the TTP are nowhere close to the dedication the Afghan Taliban have, but still….military options never work in situations like this.

And once again rather than defending his original stance (which was talk these people out of this nonsense)….he now claims he never wanted to negotiate?

I’ll read the entire article first….because I have my doubts about the title being authentic to what he was really trying to say.

EDIT: So wait this entire thread is based on a tweet by some nobody on Twitter?

Cool story.


Next.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Wait…. Osama Bin Laden would give $10 million dollars to have a meeting with Nawaz Sharif?! what next level F***ery is this. Come on man ! You can’t make this s*** up.

I also doubt OBL would have given a dime to these generals for Pakistani politics, this is for those who believe an allegation of Benazir Bhuttoo, and they are also twisting that allegation.

We cannot deny that majority of Pti supporters have become anti army, every gathering they are calling army as anti state, calling for mutiny etc. When Pmln, mqm or other parties made similar comments they were considered as indian/western agents. Army/establishment is also responsible for this, we had youth chanting Pakistan zindabad, Pakistan fouj zindabad but army role in fake cases, kidnapping, torturing added the seed of hatred in their hearts. Can you blame the young people. They just want a change in Pakistan, end of corruption, bribery, independent and powerful institutions, justice, better policies, free and fair elections. What is so wrong for the establishment to do that, but instead are watching the people suffer.

Army was good when it was managing attandance in Parliament for PTI, PMLN was Indian-agent when it was criticising this role of Pakistan Army.

Good ho gia

 

[Areesh]

I also doubt OBL would have given a dime to these generals for Pakistani politics, this is for those who believe an allegation of Benazir Bhuttoo, and they are also twisting that allegation.

What you have to say about the fact that Saudis funded for Noon League election campaign as per WikiLeaks? And your leader never declared it either

 

[Areesh]

What you have to say about the fact that Saudis funded for Noon League election campaign as per WikiLeaks? And your leader never declared it either

@muhammadhafeezmalik

What happened? Running away again? Can't answer?

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

@muhammadhafeezmalik

What happened? Running away again? Can't answer?

Again no documentary evidence, just hearsay. This claim should be supported by documentary evidences like Financial Times presented the documentary evidence of Wooton Cricket Club

 

[Areesh]

Again no documentary evidence, just hearsay. This claim should be supported by documentary evidences like Financial Times presented the documentary evidence of Wooton Cricket Club

So wikileaks is PTI conspiracy?

 

[villageidiot]

When Ibi used them against his oponents it was halal now it’s haram?

You're saying IK used organizations against his opponents. I didn't. Organizations have a mind of their own, they only went so far against his opponents as long as IK's benefit outweighed that of his opponents. When the calculus changed, IK was swiftly booted out.

Yees sir your guys are mandar ka ghanta har koe aap ki bjaa k chala jatei

No, that's your precious organizations, sir. As per your insinuations, bechare bholay bhaalay, idaaroon ko har koi apnay matlab ke liye istemal karte he.

So wikileaks is PTI conspiracy?

Did you hear? It was conspiracy by IK, the jewish lobby led by Goldsmith, Henry Kissinger, Jemima and Jemima's cousin Wiki who is also a Jew

 

[AZ1]

Tehreek-e-Taliban should open an office: Imran Khan​

Tehreek-e-Taliban should open an office: Imran Khan | The Express Tribune

PTI Chairman says opening of offices are vital for peace talks to progress.

tribune.com.pk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655188704653189120

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

So wikileaks is PTI conspiracy?

No, this was just a cable from ambassador, Tariq Aziz told ambassador that ISI chief suspect that saudies are funding NS, same ISI told NS that $1 billion was transfered in his name to Singapore. Just a gup-shup between two persons, if there would be a iota of truth in this story JIT would have found this in Panama case, instead of that unpaid salary.

 

[Areesh]

No, this was just a cable from ambassador, Tariq Aziz told ambassador that ISI chief suspect that saudies are funding NS, same ISI told NS that $1 billion was transfered in his name to Singapore. Just a gup-shup between two persons, if there would be a iota of truth in this story JIT would have found this in Panama case, instead of that unpaid salary.

It was not gupshup. It was conversation between senior officials of Pakistani government

Why do we have continuous reports of Saudis funding one particular party again and again?

 

[LeGenD]

How did that work for the Americans in Afghanistan in regards to the Afghan Taliban? Grant it, the TTP are nowhere close to the dedication the Afghan Taliban have, but still….military options never work in situations like this.

And once again rather than defending his original stance (which was talk these people out of this nonsense)….he now claims he never wanted to negotiate?

I’ll read the entire article first….because I have my doubts about the title being authentic to what he was really trying to say.

EDIT: So wait this entire thread is based on a tweet by some nobody on Twitter?

Cool story.


Next.

Pakistan has supported Taliban groups since the 1990s. These groups fought a war with power hungry warlords and brought stability to numerous sectors of Afghanistan in the 1990s. This suited Pakistan at the time (understandable). But Taliban groups developed close ties with Al-Qaeda Network and this relationship brought War On Terror to the region.

The Establishment allowed NATO to conduct operations in Afghanistan on the one hand but allowed the Taliban groups to find refuge and recover in Pakistan on the other hand. US-led forces combed entire sectors in Afghanistan only for Taliban groups to return after a period of time. This ill-advised policy is the reason why military options did not work and Pakistan finds itself in current predicament.

Imran Khan was vocal against War On Terror from the start and the Establishment and PTI were on the same page on the matter of supporting Taliban groups.

Pakistan’s ‘good Taliban-bad Taliban’ strategy backfires, posing regional risks

For decades, Pakistan pursued a policy of supporting the Afghan Taliban while cracking down on the Pakistani Taliban, the Tehreek-i-Taliban (TTP). With the Taliban in power in Afghanistan, Islamabad…

www.france24.com

The Pakistani Taliban Test Ties between Islamabad and Kabul | Crisis Group

Two large attacks on police installations have rocked Pakistan, compelling the authorities to rethink their approach to countering militancy. Their dilemma is that the insurgents’ main supporters – the new authorities in Afghanistan – are also their long-time allies.

www.crisisgroup.org

Details are out in Public.

I hate to say this but Husain Haqqani was right about some things. Not condoning this idiot's Memogate though. One has the right to disagree with a state policy but one should never be a part of foreign conspiracy.

The fundamental problem is that institutions in Pakistan have not encouraged the Academic sector to conduct impartial research on the matters of national security and many of the teachers are politicized or parrot state-sponsored propaganda. Just look at the level of funding that is allocated for the Education Sector in the country. Academic deliberations are the key to finding solutions for all manner of problems in the country and provide directions to decision-makers for how to move forward.

How come my views are in stark to contrast to typical political banter in the country? Because I am a researcher and I care about Pakistan in true spirit. I have the mental capacity to look at any development from various perspectives to figure out what could be right. This is why most of my views are spot on. But facts are boring and narratives are easier to sell.

 

[Riz]

Army was good when it was managing attandance in Parliament for PTI, PMLN was Indian-agent when it was criticising this role of Pakistan Army.

Good ho gia

military ka kam govt ko support karna hota ha ksi country ki sazish ma shareek nhi hona hota aain ood

 

[villageidiot]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655188704653189120

Bhainsa

 

[AZ1]

I also doubt OBL would have given a dime to these generals for Pakistani politics, this is for those who believe an allegation of Benazir Bhuttoo, and they are also twisting that allegation.



Army was good when it was managing attandance in Parliament for PTI, PMLN was Indian-agent when it was criticising this role of Pakistan Army.

Good ho gia

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655503256775192577

 

[PWFI]

You're saying IK used organizations against his opponents. I didn't. Organizations have a mind of their own, they only went so far against his opponents as long as IK's benefit outweighed that of his opponents. When the calculus changed, IK was swiftly booted out.


No, that's your precious organizations, sir. As per your insinuations, bechare bholay bhaalay, idaaroon ko har koi apnay matlab ke liye istemal karte he.

Okay let assume "organizations" manage everything from flood relief, earthquake operation, fight against terrorism, defend against Pajeets on eastern border, managing politics...then what the need of politicals parties? why do they even exist? why IBI and nawaja and other rascals cry and fight for appointment of COAS?

Indeed Youthias, patwaris, jialals etc are Mandar ka Ghanta, jis ka dil krtei un ki bjaa kr chla jatei

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655188704653189120

who took this transgender seriously except Youthias and jialals ? Bilawel bibi is as much intelligent as "iyaka nabudu wa iyaka nastaein, then mujra party"