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Neva Design Bureau ready to build new Indian aircraft carrier
PublishedDecember 19, 2015

SOURCE : RIA Novosti.

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The Neva Design Bureau is ready with plans to construct a second aircraft carrier for the Indian Navy. Neva’s plans include either the design of the ship as a whole, or several of its individual components. Russia has received an offer to participate in the tendering process for such a ship, Sergei Vlasov, general director of the Neva Design Bureau, told RIA Novosti.

The Design Bureau was actively involved in the building of the first national (built in India), Indian aircraft carrier, the ‘Vikrant’, which was launched on June 11, 2015. The Indian media earlier reported that the second national aircraft carrier, the ‘Vishal’, is likely to be a nuclear- powered vessel with a displacement of around 65,000 tons, and will be able to carry 50 aircraft.

Rosoboronexport said earlier this year that Russia would agree to participate in building a new aircraft carrier, if such an application does come from India.

“The Indian side is choosing partners to participate in the design of their new aircraft carrier. The Russian side has received a request to participate in the corresponding tender. Our company can offer everything; the entire ship as a whole and/or its component parts. We are very interested in co-operation with India,” said Vlasov.

He added that the Neva Design Bureau continues to work with India on the Vikrant. The company’s specialists are working to develop the aviation-technical equipment for the ship; they have created ??the technical design of this vessel. Other work on the aircraft carrier is being done by other countries, and India itself.

According to reports, the Vikrant should be placed into service by the Indian Navy in 2018. The displacement of the Vikrant will be about 40,000 tons, and it will be armed with anti-aircraft missile systems, and high-velocity artillery. The ship will carry carrier-based Russian-made MiG-29K/KUB fighter jets and helicopters. They also plan to use Indian ‘Tejas’ fighter jets (developed and built by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, the jets are also known as LCA – Light Combat Aircraft) on this ship.

In November 2013, the Indian Navy officially received the aircraft carrier ‘Vikramaditya’ (formerly the Admiral Gorshkov), which was totally refitted and modernized at Sevmash Shipyard. In January 2014, the ship safely reached the wharves of the Indian port of Karwar. In 2015, representatives of Sevmash and the Indian Navy signed a contract to provide technical assistance for maintenance of the aircraft carrier after its warranty period expires.

Located in St. Petersburg, the Nevsky Design Bureau specializes in designing aircraft carriers, amphibious ships, naval aeronautical equipment, and naval-aviation simulator equipment.
 
65,000 tons & they want to embed EMALS?
With Russian involvement forget about EMALS anyway.
 
65,000 tons & they want to embed EMALS?
With Russian involvement forget about EMALS anyway.
EMALS development will start post 2022
The industries who were built for the job needs work. cochin claims to build second ACC in 5 yrs.
So why not give cochin another order in 2017
 
65,000 tons & they want to embed EMALS?
With Russian involvement forget about EMALS anyway.

You are looking at it in the wrong way. The "Neva’s plans include either the design of the ship as a whole, or several of its individual components" is basically a tacit acceptance that they expect to be requested to provide consultancy for only a part of the ship; my assumption being the reactor complex. The Americans may choose not to part with consultancy on this aspect, given the sensitivity attached to it.

It is certainly true that DND and BARC has gained significant expertise regarding on-board nuclear reactors given their experience in ATV project, but that is for a single reactor configuration; In this case, we are looking at a twin reactor configuration-two 150MW reactors powering the ~70,000 ton vessel.
 
You are looking at it in the wrong way. The "Neva’s plans include either the design of the ship as a whole, or several of its individual components" is basically a tacit acceptance that they expect to be requested to provide consultancy for only a part of the ship; my assumption being the reactor complex. The Americans may choose not to part with consultancy on this aspect, given the sensitivity attached to it.

It is certainly true that DND and BARC has gained significant expertise regarding on-board nuclear reactors given their experience in ATV project, but that is for a single reactor configuration; In this case, we are looking at a twin reactor configuration-two 150MW reactors powering the ~70,000 ton vessel.


You assume things on your own;
my assumption being the reactor complex

And claim people are wrong:

You are looking at it in the wrong way

And then you concur on the following by saying:

The Americans may choose not to part with consultancy on this aspect, given the sensitivity attached to it.

As I said the following:

With Russian involvement forget about EMALS anyway.

This tendency is called flying off the tangent.



 
Neva Design Bureau ready to build new Indian aircraft carrier
PublishedDecember 19, 2015

SOURCE : RIA Novosti.

992722344_468.jpg


The Neva Design Bureau is ready with plans to construct a second aircraft carrier for the Indian Navy. Neva’s plans include either the design of the ship as a whole, or several of its individual components. Russia has received an offer to participate in the tendering process for such a ship, Sergei Vlasov, general director of the Neva Design Bureau, told RIA Novosti.

The Design Bureau was actively involved in the building of the first national (built in India), Indian aircraft carrier, the ‘Vikrant’, which was launched on June 11, 2015. The Indian media earlier reported that the second national aircraft carrier, the ‘Vishal’, is likely to be a nuclear- powered vessel with a displacement of around 65,000 tons, and will be able to carry 50 aircraft.

Rosoboronexport said earlier this year that Russia would agree to participate in building a new aircraft carrier, if such an application does come from India.

“The Indian side is choosing partners to participate in the design of their new aircraft carrier. The Russian side has received a request to participate in the corresponding tender. Our company can offer everything; the entire ship as a whole and/or its component parts. We are very interested in co-operation with India,” said Vlasov.

He added that the Neva Design Bureau continues to work with India on the Vikrant. The company’s specialists are working to develop the aviation-technical equipment for the ship; they have created ??the technical design of this vessel. Other work on the aircraft carrier is being done by other countries, and India itself.

According to reports, the Vikrant should be placed into service by the Indian Navy in 2018. The displacement of the Vikrant will be about 40,000 tons, and it will be armed with anti-aircraft missile systems, and high-velocity artillery. The ship will carry carrier-based Russian-made MiG-29K/KUB fighter jets and helicopters. They also plan to use Indian ‘Tejas’ fighter jets (developed and built by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, the jets are also known as LCA – Light Combat Aircraft) on this ship.

In November 2013, the Indian Navy officially received the aircraft carrier ‘Vikramaditya’ (formerly the Admiral Gorshkov), which was totally refitted and modernized at Sevmash Shipyard. In January 2014, the ship safely reached the wharves of the Indian port of Karwar. In 2015, representatives of Sevmash and the Indian Navy signed a contract to provide technical assistance for maintenance of the aircraft carrier after its warranty period expires.

Located in St. Petersburg, the Nevsky Design Bureau specializes in designing aircraft carriers, amphibious ships, naval aeronautical equipment, and naval-aviation simulator equipment.
They are never going to be asked to design the whole ship- that is out of the question (NDB have already been working on this for a while), but if the IAC-2 is to be nuclear powered their expertise will be helpful. That said, with EMALS coming the IAC-2 is most likely to feature specific American design cues.
 
but if the IAC-2 is to be nuclear powered their expertise will be helpful

Indeed,a bit of consultancy and engineering expertise in components like propeller shaft would be beneficial to us.
 
Russians have fooled us big time again in cochin ship yard built INS Vikrant,
First, they delayed the steel for 2+ yrs. Luckily by then, we had perfected our inhouse streel.
Then, We needed to source few system from Russia for which they charged us 2-3 times more cost

Russians defense ministry dont care about the contract details.. They are too corrupt and behave like crooks!
If u ask them to go by rules then they would block the project.

we need to learn to negotiate with them!

Indeed,a bit of consultancy and engineering expertise in components like propeller shaft would be beneficial to us.

I would love to use Italian,Swedish,British,German consultancy.Why are we holding India italy relation hostage to some fisherman death!

French & Russia have always fooled us
 
Indeed,a bit of consultancy and engineering expertise in components like propeller shaft would be beneficial to us.
Certainly but can one really imagine the scenerio where an Indian designed ship having Russian propulsion assitance with American aircraft launch systems (EMALS)? I feel as though it makes the most sense to stick with American expertise across the board if the IN is going for EMALS- which they most certainly are. Getting the Russians involved seems like a recipe for disaster.

Russians have fooled us big time again in cochin ship yard built INS Vikrant,
First, they delayed the steel for 2+ yrs. Luckily by then, we had perfected our inhouse streel.
Then, We needed to source few system from Russia for which they charged us 2-3 times more cost

Russians defense ministry dont care about the contract details.. They are too corrupt and behave like crooks!
If u ask them to go by rules then they would block the project.

we need to learn to negotiate with them!
This is what happens when you go for govt-govt deals, there are rarely enough checks and balances in place- the one exception being the USG's FMS route which has legal obligations (on the part of the seller) built in and is highly accountable.
 

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