Nepal-China railway ‘technologically and economically feasible’

[ito]

Nepal - China relations are welcome. Why should India have objections? Would China have objections if India were to connect with Vietnam or Philippines? Silly thread.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You underestimate indian influence in the region. At present if you think BD is heading towards Chinese orbit you must be blind to the situation in BD. Most Chinese people are utterly ignorant of what's been going on in BD, this is why they talk as if BD is in the Chinese orbit but when people from BD speak that way I find it hard to believe.

Indeed I agree with you India surely have Influence in this region, culture, demography economy and military might are key factors. To be honest I don't think Chinese know Bangladesh more than Indian maybe because the geogrphicall proximity. I blame all this to India chicken neck to prevent us to have border, as we can see on the map Nepal is just few KM from Bangladesh, we could have rail link all the way to Bangladesh if not because of this chicken neck

 

[ito]

That is China's plan and will benefit all of Asia minus a few useless traitors.

Will the arrogant Indians want to co-operate is the question?

Will it benefit India, if yes, India will not think twice before collaborating with Chinese. If no, then China and India will take their own separate paths. No emotions and attachments, everything is pure business.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Will it benefit India, if yes, India will not think twice before collaborating with Chinese. If no, then China and India will take their own separate paths. No emotions and attachments, everything is pure business.

By having connectivity from Bangladesh to Tibet, India can collect the transit fee when China or Nepal have economy transaction with Bangladesh and act as HUB within China, BD and Nepal, I don't see why it wont benefit India?

 

[X-2.]

Aug 6, 2016- Chinese experts have said the much-touted railway link between Nepal and China through the Himalayan highland “is economically and technologically feasible”.

A report carried by China Daily on Friday says the country has accumulated technology and experience to build a rail link between the Tibet autonomous region and the South Asian subcontinent.

According to the newspaper, a Himalayan train ride at more than 100kmph speeds at the foot of the world’s highest snow-capped mountains is no longer just a dream.

“The construction of a railway crossing the Himalayan Mountains is now economically and technologically feasible,” the newspaper quoted Zong Gang, deputy director of the Science and Technology Department at Beijing University of Technology, as saying.

The Gyirong (Kerung) port lying at the Nepal-China border stands at an altitude of 2,800 meters above the sea level. The Gyirong mountain pass to Nepal lies at around 1,800 meters, making the railway geographically feasible.

Lhasha and Xigaze, the two major cities of Tibet lying at an altitude of 3,700 meters and 3,800 meters above the sea level respectively, already have railway connectivity.

According to the news report, while Nepal hopes that China can connect the port with Kathmandu, for China, the railway line will help boost economic, cultural and religious communications with Nepal as part of the Belt and Road initiative proposed by Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Although China has more than 19,000km of high-speed railways with a capacity to travel at speeds up to 350kmph, the railway line starting from Xigaze in Tibet to a land port in Gyirong will not be a high-speed one. The Xigaze-Gyirong railway line, whose construction is supposed to be completed by 2020, will have up to 100kmph speed.

Building rail links is the most powerful way to help Tibet open up to South Asian countries, the same news report quoted Chairman of the Tibet Autonomous Region government Losang Jamcan as saying.

According to the report, Zhou Yuhui, a professor at Beijing Jiaotong University, said: “While bringing tourists and businesses to Gyirong, which will help local people to escape poverty, the China-Nepal railway will also help to make people more willing to integrate into modern life.”

Zhou had recently made a field visit to the Nepal-China border.

Former Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang had agreed to cooperate in several areas, including the transportation sector, during the former’s official visit to Beijing in March this year.

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Nepal we're coming to you

I will love to see Chinese train entering Nepal though this Himalayan deadly mountains

By having connectivity from Bangladesh to Tibet, India can collect the transit fee when China or Nepal have economy transaction with Bangladesh and act as HUB within China, BD and Nepal, I don't see why it wont benefit India?

Thats good bargain

 

[AndrewJin]

IMHO, this Nepal-China railway is technologically feasible, no question about this.

China's infrastructure building capability is second to none.

However, this railway may not be economically feasible.

The volume of trade may not be large enough to justify the cost of building it.

Yep, technologically it is never a problem after China's decades of engagement on improving China's infrastructure across the nation regardless of all the geological difficulties.


And, we have exported these powerful Tunnel Boring Machines to Australia and Europe.
They are so useful to conquer the nature, crossing the mighty mountains!

 

[AndrewJin]

I will love to see Chinese train entering Nepal though this Himalayan deadly mountains


Thats good bargain

Now, our traditional trains can reach Shigatse, 250km west to Lhasa.
One step further to Nepal!

z8804 Shigatse-Lhasa 248km
12:05-14:40 2h35min
Ticket: 40.5 yuan ($6)


Lhasa-Shigatse Railway over the expressway

Shigatse Railway Station, 2015

 

[AndrewJin]

One step further to Nepal

 

[ito]

By having connectivity from Bangladesh to Tibet, India can collect the transit fee when China or Nepal have economy transaction with Bangladesh and act as HUB within China, BD and Nepal, I don't see why it wont benefit India?

For an economy of size of India, transit fee won't be a big galvanizer. What matters is that how is connectivity with China going to have positive effect on Indian economy. Even Chinese are interested in connecting Tibet with India as this is going to positive impact on Tibet economy.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...india-feasible-china/articleshow/53553967.cms

 

[X-2.]

Now, our traditional trains can reach Shigatse, 250km west to Lhasa.
One step further to Nepal!

z8804 Shigatse-Lhasa 248km
12:05-14:40 2h35min
Ticket: 40.5 yuan ($6)


Lhasa-Shigatse Railway over the expressway
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Shigatse Railway Station, 2015
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Wow that is do great and with Nepal it will be boast for chinese economy as wl as it's influence on It
Wish the best of luck
Thx to u for beautiful share

Now, our traditional trains can reach Shigatse, 250km west to Lhasa.
One step further to Nepal!

z8804 Shigatse-Lhasa 248km
12:05-14:40 2h35min
Ticket: 40.5 yuan ($6)


Lhasa-Shigatse Railway over the expressway
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Shigatse Railway Station, 2015
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Even the fare and traveling much sweet
Awesome

Will it benefit India, if yes, India will not think twice before collaborating with Chinese. If no, then China and India will take their own separate paths. No emotions and attachments, everything is pure business.

Off course it will benefit India through Nepal
It will play a economical corridor as wl if Indian stay a gud guy not the soiler then it could benefit b Bangladesh and there near abts and India especially as wl

 

[AndrewJin]

Wow that is do great and with Nepal it will be boast for chinese economy as wl as it's influence on It
Wish the best of luck
Thx to u for beautiful share


Even the fare and traveling much sweet
Awesome


Off course it will benefit India through Nepal
It will play a economical corridor as wl if Indian stay a gud guy not the soiler then it could benefit b Bangladesh and there near abts and India especially as wl

No worries!

Also check my railway thread on China
https://defence.pk/threads/chinese-hsr-news-and-information-original-translations.363685/

Cheers!

Even the fare and traveling much sweet
Awesome

Yes.
And considering the altitude, speed is acceptable, though not fast in China's notion.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

For an economy of size of India, transit fee won't be a big galvanizer. What matters is that how is connectivity with China going to have positive effect on Indian economy. Even Chinese are interested in connecting Tibet with India as this is going to positive impact on Tibet economy.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...india-feasible-china/articleshow/53553967.cms

It's not only the transit fee but to use this rail to promote India economy exchange as well unless you say that Indian people on this region don't need anything or no need to sell anything...then that will be fine, no one will twist India's arm.

 

[X-2.]

No worries!

Also check my railway thread on China
https://defence.pk/threads/chinese-hsr-news-and-information-original-translations.363685/

Cheers!


Yes.
And considering the altitude, speed is acceptable, though not fast in China's notion.

Yes indeed Chinese infrastructure and planing and then implementation is always remarkable

Yep, technologically it is never a problem after China's decades of engagement on improving China's infrastructure across the nation regardless of all the geological difficulties.


And, we have exported these powerful Tunnel Boring Machines to Australia and Europe.
They are so useful to conquer the nature, crossing the mighty mountains!
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Yp these machines are PC of cake for work as compare to tunneling by other lack of infrastructural methods even being Pakistani and local to some region of Pakistan I exactly know how this kinda machine benefits

 

[AndrewJin]

Yes indeed Chinese infrastructure and planing and then implementation is always remarkable

Enjoy some crazy bridges and expressways there!
https://defence.pk/threads/china-expressways-highways-bridges-news-and-updates.435098/

Expressway network in China's poorest Guizhou Province

Expressway in my province

Highway in Tibet (not expressway)

China's numerous construction contractors (world's top3 all in China) and design companies (nearly all world's 200+ highest bridges in China) have gain a lot of expertise on this sector. No matter how hard it is, no unconquerable project so far. What we can offer is bring our friends inclusive growth, including better transport connectivity which is the foundation of economy! As the Chinese saying goes, wanna get rich, build roads first! Now, we slightly change it to, wanna get rich, build HSRs/roads first!

 

[T-Rex]

By having connectivity from Bangladesh to Tibet, India can collect the transit fee when China or Nepal have economy transaction with Bangladesh and act as HUB within China, BD and Nepal, I don't see why it wont benefit India?

I believe india will never allow such a transit because it will make smaller nations like Nepal and BD economically a bit more prosperous and independent.