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Need to have a solid Mutual Strategic Defense Pact with China

Khurram2349

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Pakistan has been constantly under threat from India since its birth. Recently the India Army Chief has threatened surgical strikes and at the same time US is also threatening Pakistan via Afghanistan. Because of our hostile neighbors Pakistan has to invest big amount in defense and still feels insecure due to the immense size and resources of our enemies .

We need to be very practical regarding our defense needs in the light of our economic situation. We are trying to compete with India which is already a super power and have full support of countries including USA , Russia, Israel, Japan, UK and also EU powers like France . Most of the developed World likes India because of its big economic opportunities , but at the same time , Western world as well as Israel has always supported India because of its anti Pakistan and anti Muslim stance . Even during the Cold War , when India was suppose to be in Soviet bloc , USA and the West covertly supported India against Pakistan , although Pakistan was suppose to be an important ally of the West against Soviet Union ! Pakistan has always been snubbed by the major big powers mainly due to inefficiency of our leader ship and also being a Muslim country .

We do need to salute the scientists of Pakistan as well as Military leadership which have backed them and even though the country had meager resources and also had to face tough resistance from hostile international powers, still we were able to develop a very potent defense system including nuclear bombs and sophisticated missile systems ! Also special words need to be taken for some friendly countries including China for giving us support in developing these defense systems. Had we not done this then I am sure that India would have eaten Pakistan up by now and destroyed us , some thing which they have been yearning to do since the birth of Pakistan.

Today India is one of the 4 big military and economic super powers . It has acquired defense equipment which can be matched by only few countries in the world and working on sophisticated systems like Anti Ballistic Missile Defense, Stealth fighters, nuclear submarines and even developing space warfare technology . If we have to defend ourselves we need to keep countering Indian military might !

We are , however a medium size and medium economy country . We have also been unfortunate to be led by some of the most corrupt political leaders in the world , who have criminally siphoned billions of dollars of the motherland and left Pakistan at the verge of bankruptcy and loaded with debt. In this scenario when we are not even sure how to pay the interest on the enormous loans taken by the corrupt mafia it is foolish to think about acquiring sophisticated systems like ABMs , new missiles, fighter jets and other equipment on our own , to counter India . No matter what we buy , Indians will be given multi times better equipment by its supporters and this will just go on and on draining our already meager resources .

Under current circumstances Pakistan need to have a Mutual Defense pact with China mainly aiming to counter our threat from India . Now Pakistan is lucky that due to CPEC , China is more involved in the security and well being of Pakistan more then before . It is upto our leadership to take full advantage of this strategic situation. Lets involve China more in defense of Pakistan . Give China bases for Chinese Army , Navy and Air Force within Pakistan and ask them to shift some of its defense equipment in Pakistan including Air craft, strategic missiles and submarines , manned by Chinese , and let these bases be completely under Chinese control. In other words have some of our defense needs subcontracted to China . I am sure Chinese will find it to their own advantage to have bases in Pakistan and shift some of its strategic assets here , encircling India from Western land and sea routes .

It is not some thing unusual between close cooperating countries to have mutual defense pacts . Indians did the same with Soviet Union in 1960s and 70s and Soviets send their equipment and manpower in India which helped them during 1971 war. Now its time for China and Pakistan to enter in similar kind of defense pact which can secure both the countries interest as both have common enemies specially India .

Pakistan can save lot of money by involving Chinese in our defense and at the same time can also continue to be part of research and development with the Chinese and keep their scientists up to date of technological development through joint development and production of equipment like fighter jets , missiles , radars, electronic countermeasure systems and space technology.

The money saved can be used in strengthening the economy and bring the economy to a level where it can grow to a size with which we can be self sufficient in defense and also have better living standards of the people .

It requires an honest , sensible , sincere and strong minded leadership to negotiate with big powers . India has used Soviets to their advantage during the Cold War and now using USA against Pakistan . We had China as our only friendly super power but our leadership never took real advantage of this friendship.

Now its time to use the friendship of China to the fullest specially in our defense needs and make both countries benefit from it .
 
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If India is a superpower then I am the King of England.

The Indians don't have the the balls to declare a war on Pakistan and then actually follow it through. They can only try the back stab policy or do something via their paid proxies. The Indian high command isn't like the regular Indian. They know Pakistan will wipe out India within a few minutes if they try something funny.

The only thing Pakistan needs to so is hang corrupt politicians and their cronies, hang corrupt bureaucrats and confiscate all of their wealth.

India was a threat only during the USSR times or when Russia had their full back up until early 2000s.

It is not wise for Pakistan to expose its allies one way or another.
 
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Lol! Whilst I can understand (but not agree with) the underlying message, this almost sounds like a satirical piece.
 
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Another thread talking about how China will come to Pakistan's rescue. :lol:

Pakistan has always been snubbed by the major big powers mainly due to inefficiency of our leader ship and also being a Muslim country .

Pakistan gets snubbed by everyone because Pakistani leadership lack integrity.

Had we not done this then I am sure that India would have eaten Pakistan up by now and destroyed us , some thing which they have been yearning to do since the birth of Pakistan.

Let me tell you a secret: Indians don't care about Pakistan. We are not stupid enough to destroy you and create another Afghanistan right on our borders.

Had your leaders had integrity and followed due process, we would have had good relations, like we do with all our neighbours.

Now our only concern with you lot is terrorism. That's how our relationship is currently defined.

No matter what we buy , Indians will be given multi times better equipment by its supporters and this will just go on and on draining our already meager resources .

Nobody is simply 'giving' India anything.

Under current circumstances Pakistan need to have a Mutual Defense pact with China mainly aiming to counter our threat from India .

And what are you offering China in return?

Indians did the same with Soviet Union in 1960s and 70s and Soviets send their equipment and manpower in India which helped them during 1971 war.

We had leverage for that. What leverage do you have for China to come to your rescue?

It requires an honest , sensible , sincere and strong minded leadership to negotiate with big powers .

That type of a leadership is prerequisite to have peace with India.
 
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Why do you think so?
China is a emerging superpower. Right now and for the last few decades it has tunnel vision. That tunnel vision is to reach the top. Nothing is going to detract China from that goal - to reach No.1. Therefore China will not get stuck an anything that will deflect from it's goal. If China formally enters a treaty right now it could end up -

  • by entering formal treaty induce Pakistan to chose the path of war
  • by entering treaty cause other powers to enter treaty with India
  • by entering into such treaty get sucked into a military stand off with USA/other pwers thereby disturbing Chinas relentless drive to develop it's economy to first world level.
 
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China is a emerging superpower. Right now and for the last few decades it has tunnel vision. That tunnel vision is to reach the top. Nothing is going to detract China from that goal - to reach No.1. Therefore China will not get stuck an anything that will deflect from it's goal. If China formally enters a treaty right now it could end up -

  • by entering formal treaty induce Pakistan to chose the path of war
  • by entering treaty cause other powers to enter treaty with India
  • by entering into such treaty get sucked into a military stand off with USA/other pwers thereby disturbing Chinas relentless drive to develop it's economy to first world level.

That way China is absolutely admirable. While other countries were distracted by issues like wars, religion, human rights, political dramas, chest thumping, China achieved a wonder (like never before) by its laser-sharp focus on the economy.
 
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That way China is absolutely admirable. While other countries were distracted by issues like wars, religion, human rights, political dramas, chest thumping, China achieved a wonder (like never before) by its laser-sharp focus on the economy.
I agree. You can provoke it. Call it names. Insult it. No real reaction. Like a deaf, dumb, blind elephant it just keeps marching forward, forward. Every day closer to reaching the top. It's amazing dedication to reach the top is remarkable.

Where Pakistani's will at the drop of hat poke their noses into everything. Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Rohingya or croak on about US infamy. China is like mum. But all the while moving forward ever so deftly. Some yeas back US Navy knocked out some Chinese aircraft and the pilot was killed. For most countries that would have taken them to the edge. The Chinese took it, registered complain and the moved forward.

Nothing is going disturb China's rise. It will not get distracted.
 
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I agree. You can provoke it. Call it names. Insult it. No real reaction. Like a deaf, dumb, blind elephant it just keeps marching forward, forward. Every day closer to reaching the top. It's amazing dedication to reach the top is remarkable.

Where Pakistani's will at the drop of hat poke their noses into everything. Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Rohingya or croak on about US infamy. China is like mum. But all the while moving forward ever so deftly. Some yeas back US Navy knocked out some Chinese aircraft and the pilot was killed. For most countries that would have taken them to the edge. The Chinese took it, registered complain and the moved forward.

Nothing is going disturb China's rise. It will not get distracted.

When the US was bombing Yugoslavia in 1999 for their war in Kosovo the US did bomb the PRC Embassy in Belgrade it was reported as a accident,eventhough China was upset that their diplomats being killed in the bombing they were pretty mum and nothing happen after that

Where Pakistani's will at the drop of hat poke their noses into everything. Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Rohingya or croak on about US infamy.

Agreed 40 years of s..cking Gulf Arab dick got us nowhere
 
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Pakistan has been constantly under threat from India since its birth. Recently the India Army Chief has threatened surgical strikes and at the same time US is also threatening Pakistan via Afghanistan. Because of our hostile neighbors Pakistan has to invest big amount in defense and still feels insecure due to the immense size and resources of our enemies .

We need to be very practical regarding our defense needs in the light of our economic situation. We are trying to compete with India which is already a super power and have full support of countries including USA , Russia, Israel, Japan, UK and also EU powers like France . Most of the developed World likes India because of its big economic opportunities , but at the same time , Western world as well as Israel has always supported India because of its anti Pakistan and anti Muslim stance . Even during the Cold War , when India was suppose to be in Soviet bloc , USA and the West covertly supported India against Pakistan , although Pakistan was suppose to be an important ally of the West against Soviet Union ! Pakistan has always been snubbed by the major big powers mainly due to inefficiency of our leader ship and also being a Muslim country .

We do need to salute the scientists of Pakistan as well as Military leadership which have backed them and even though the country had meager resources and also had to face tough resistance from hostile international powers, still we were able to develop a very potent defense system including nuclear bombs and sophisticated missile systems ! Also special words need to be taken for some friendly countries including China for giving us support in developing these defense systems. Had we not done this then I am sure that India would have eaten Pakistan up by now and destroyed us , some thing which they have been yearning to do since the birth of Pakistan.

Today India is one of the 4 big military and economic super powers . It has acquired defense equipment which can be matched by only few countries in the world and working on sophisticated systems like Anti Ballistic Missile Defense, Stealth fighters, nuclear submarines and even developing space warfare technology . If we have to defend ourselves we need to keep countering Indian military might !

We are , however a medium size and medium economy country . We have also been unfortunate to be led by some of the most corrupt political leaders in the world , who have criminally siphoned billions of dollars of the motherland and left Pakistan at the verge of bankruptcy and loaded with debt. In this scenario when we are not even sure how to pay the interest on the enormous loans taken by the corrupt mafia it is foolish to think about acquiring sophisticated systems like ABMs , new missiles, fighter jets and other equipment on our own , to counter India . No matter what we buy , Indians will be given multi times better equipment by its supporters and this will just go on and on draining our already meager resources .

Under current circumstances Pakistan need to have a Mutual Defense pact with China mainly aiming to counter our threat from India . Now Pakistan is lucky that due to CPEC , China is more involved in the security and well being of Pakistan more then before . It is upto our leadership to take full advantage of this strategic situation. Lets involve China more in defense of Pakistan . Give China bases for Chinese Army , Navy and Air Force within Pakistan and ask them to shift some of its defense equipment in Pakistan including Air craft, strategic missiles and submarines , manned by Chinese , and let these bases be completely under Chinese control. In other words have some of our defense needs subcontracted to China . I am sure Chinese will find it to their own advantage to have bases in Pakistan and shift some of its strategic assets here , encircling India from Western land and sea routes .

It is not some thing unusual between close cooperating countries to have mutual defense pacts . Indians did the same with Soviet Union in 1960s and 70s and Soviets send their equipment and manpower in India which helped them during 1971 war. Now its time for China and Pakistan to enter in similar kind of defense pact which can secure both the countries interest as both have common enemies specially India .

Pakistan can save lot of money by involving Chinese in our defense and at the same time can also continue to be part of research and development with the Chinese and keep their scientists up to date of technological development through joint development and production of equipment like fighter jets , missiles , radars, electronic countermeasure systems and space technology.

The money saved can be used in strengthening the economy and bring the economy to a level where it can grow to a size with which we can be self sufficient in defense and also have better living standards of the people .

It requires an honest , sensible , sincere and strong minded leadership to negotiate with big powers . India has used Soviets to their advantage during the Cold War and now using USA against Pakistan . We had China as our only friendly super power but our leadership never took real advantage of this friendship.

Now its time to use the friendship of China to the fullest specially in our defense needs and make both countries benefit from it .

India a supa power...lol.

Thank you! I needed a good laugh.

their economy is booming because of Call centers for Microsoft, IRS, Immigration scams.
 
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