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Nazism vs. Zionism

Technically, a Jewish state should have been established somewhere in Europe since it was the Nazis who carried out The Holocaust. But, Zionism claims Israel only. Just how big or small is this Israel is supposed to be is questionable.

In fact, the name "Israel" itself is misleading.

i think there was talk of giving them uganda. but hey why not give them a bit of australia or canada i say that cos they have large land masses.

have you noticed how the term terrorism is applied to palestinians when the state of israel was founded on terrorist attacks by jews on brits.
 
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Zionism is closest to Nazism we have post WW2.

Thinking they are the chosen race - check.
Starting wars - check.
Occupation - check.
Genocide - check.
Massive propaganda - check.

When you think about it, the only difference is scale of destruction. Nazis started WW2, Zionists - smaller scale wars in ME. However Zionists are strongly pushing for war with Iran, which could ignite WW3, so they can catch up with Nazis on this one too.
 
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i think there was talk of giving them uganda. but hey why not give them a bit of australia or canada i say that cos they have large land masses.
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Even Madagascar was in the list of places of where to settle the Jewish people of Europe. I guess WWI and the dissolving of the Ottomon empire solved the problem of the place of choosing
 
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i think there was talk of giving them uganda. but hey why not give them a bit of australia or canada i say that cos they have large land masses.

have you noticed how the term terrorism is applied to palestinians when the state of israel was founded on terrorist attacks by jews on brits.

That's because they are Zionists. They don't want Australia or Canada. It's all about the Holy Land and the surrounding ME. It was also the Brits who gave them that since in The Bible, it is stated that all Jews must return to Israel. Jesus (PBUH) told his followers to be kind to Jews (about which he is 100% correct). And hence the farce we see today. Britain's support gave them that push.
 
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A two state solution is the only realistic solution for peace in the region.

A forward looking approach with guaranteed security for Israel and a viable Palestine state can be a reality. Any other solution can't bring peace.
 
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A two state solution is the only realistic solution for peace in the region.

A forward looking approach with guaranteed security for Israel and a viable Palestine state can be a reality. Any other solution can't bring peace.

But we are not going to get that with Zionists are we???
 
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But we are not going to get that with Zionists are we???

I can't speak for anyone else but I think it is possible.

Many Israelis would gladly welcome a chance to live a normal life.

And many Palestinians would welcome a life away from the daily checkpoints.

They have come very close to similar solutions in the past. It may just happen when there is a real leadership on both sides.
 
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To make peace happen in Palestine region:

1. Israel should return occupied territories.
2. Israel should allow prosecute in ICC Jews who committed crimes against humanity.
3. Israel should compensate Palestinians, much like Germany payed to Jews.
4. Israel shouldnt interfere with official establishment of Palestine, nor have any say how Palestinians should run their country.

If that happens, peace will automatically come, if not - it wont. Even if Palestine is established officially, there wont be true peace until ALL those checkpoints are fulfilled.
 
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DF ^^^ you say that mate but we only have the jewish version of what germans did to them if we had a massive ownership in west of nazis owning press it would be intersting to see what people belived in

What i am trying to say is that west press may exagarate at times how evil nazis were and do the opposite with zionism

First of all, i find it very amusing that the people who despise the Western regimes for invading Muslim countries, killing innocent Muslims, supporting regimes that also kill innocent people, and for the negative propaganda about Muslim countries (in this case, Pakistan in particular), however these same people believe the nonsense western propaganda about Germany during WW2, this is what i call hypocrisy. On one hand your denying the propaganda against Pakistan, but on the other hand you believe the lies about the NAZI's? Double standards at its best.

The NAZI's were National Socialists, they turned Germany into a economically stable country, they provided jobs to the jobless, homes to the homeless, under National Socialism Germany was the first country to pull itself out of the great depression. By 1936, while countries like US and Britain didn't have enough jobs for their men, Germany didn't have enough men for its jobs. National Socialist provided youth programs to keep the German youth away from drugs, crimes, gangs, and to encourage family life in German society.

Now what pissed off the west? Germany under National Socialism became an example of a stable and prosperous country during a time when the rest of the world was still in economic depression, it basically provided an alternative system to Capitalism and Bolshevik Communism, not only this, but Germany no longer depended on international banks to bail itself out of the depression and to pay its debt (much like how today Pakistan depends on the IMF), interest and usury was also abolished under National Socialism in Germany.

Now you might think that this is no big deal, but it is of the utmost importance to understand that before the National Socialists came to power, Germany was an occupied country, you had foreign ideologies trying to make their way into the minds of young Germans, you had rampant crime, prostitution, drugs smuggling, homelessness, joblessness, people dieing of hunger and malnutrition, you had a country that was stripped of its pride and dignity, humiliated and blamed for a war it did not even start. Chunks of German land were annexed by its neighboring countries.

Since Pakistan is already blamed for supporting terrorism (even though NATO supported al-ciada in Libya), now imagine Pakistan gets invaded, its armed forces cut down to a very small size to an extent that they are as good as useless, indian troops are allowed to occupy Punjab, Kashmir is annexed by india, and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is given to Afghanistan, Balochistan becomes a independent country, and what is left of Pakistan is forced to pay trillions of dollars for reparations even though its economy is in shambles, therefore it plunges into immense poverty and the middle class is completely destroyed,now imagine if a close relative of yours had to resort to crime or prostitution in order to make a living in such difficult and humiliating conditions which were imposed on your country and countrymen by foreign powers. Now you tell me.





German Military War Songs-Wenn die Soldaten - YouTube
 
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^^^Indeed, that makes a lot of sense from a practical point of view.
 
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