Nazism vs. Zionism

[Zabaniyah]

Nazism and Zionism may be different sides of the same coin. But still, they had different beginnings with different deliverables for the oneself who's implementing it.

As far as the current situation goes, I wouldn't say it can simply go on forever (i.e: Israel and the Palestinians).

Some bigots dream of "Greater Israel" or the "Zionist Dream". I'd say let them dream, they couldn't even occupy Lebanon properly anyways Using the Americans as bait is extremely difficult considering the complexity of American politics and the global role it plays.

I think that comparing Israel to the Nazis is a bit unfair. The Israelis don't gas Palestinians in mass numbers. They don't conduct live experiments on them. They don't burn entire villages alive. They don't shove live bodies into ovens.

But the one thing we can agree is that the current situation in the Holy Land cannot simply go on forever. And frankly, I couldn't really come up with any answer. I guess the Israelis and Palestinians can just resolve it within themselves without US Congress interference. Especially from AIPAC.

On a side note, people love to paint the Axis powers as the bad guys. A little history would say the Allied powers in the past do indeed have a healthy number of skeletons in their closets.

What can I say? To the victor goes the spoils, and history is written from that perspective. If the Axis powers did win, we would certainly be living in a very, very different world now.

 

[lem34]

Nazism and Zionism may be different sides of the same coin. But still, they had different beginnings with different deliverables for the oneself who's implementing it.

I think that comparing Israel to the Nazis is a bit unfair. The Israelis don't gas Palestinians in mass numbers. They don't conduct live experiments on them. They don't burn entire villages alive. They don't shove live bodies into ovens.
What can I say? To the victor goes the spoils, and history is written from that perspective. If the Axis powers did win, we would certainly be living in a very, very different world now.

Think about it the zionists have a very effective propaganda arm. And they were on the winning side. In Europe we are not even allowed to question or talk about or question the holocaust. Whose to say if nazis had won and had effective propaganda what we would believe

Unfortunatly just as a child victim of abuse is more likely to become an abuser so I think some jewish people one stage victims have become zionists and the abuser.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Same old wine in a new BOTTLE.

 

[joekrish]

It is the same story as the egg and the hen,no winners and all losers.

 

[lem34]

Well Nazism is dead perhaps we need to sort out Zionism

 

[jayron]

Nazism and Zionism may be different sides of the same coin. But still, they had different beginnings with different deliverables for the oneself who's implementing it.

As far as the current situation goes, I wouldn't say it can simply go on forever (i.e: Israel and the Palestinians).

Some bigots dream of "Greater Israel" or the "Zionist Dream". I'd say let them dream, they couldn't even occupy Lebanon properly anyways Using the Americans as bait is extremely difficult considering the complexity of American politics and the global role it plays.

I think that comparing Israel to the Nazis is a bit unfair. The Israelis don't gas Palestinians in mass numbers. They don't conduct live experiments on them. They don't burn entire villages alive. They don't shove live bodies into ovens.

But the one thing we can agree is that the current situation in the Holy Land cannot simply go on forever. And frankly, I couldn't really come up with any answer. I guess the Israelis and Palestinians can just resolve it within themselves without US Congress interference. Especially from AIPAC.

On a side note, people love to paint the Axis powers as the bad guys. A little history would say the Allied powers in the past do indeed have a healthy number of skeletons in their closets.

What can I say? To the victor goes the spoils, and history is written from that perspective. If the Axis powers did win, we would certainly be living in a very, very different world now.

you are one of the few BD members who doesn't give in to propaganda and has a rational,balanced opinion. I enjoy your posts.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The special interest group that controlled US is not only the Zionists, but also those WASP elites.

WASP elites: Morgan Stanley, Rockefellers

Zionists: Rothschilds, Lehman Brothers

 

[Desert Fox]

Just came accross this article on a american blogg. Thought some members would join me in my upset at seeing these pics of jews and muslims
Nazism vs. Zionism
By Silver Shield, on March 21st, 2011

Not all Germans were Nazis. Not all Nazis were German.

Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jewish


Nazism vs. Zionism | Don't Tread On Me

You can't really compare Nazism with Zionism, its like comparing apples with oranges. Before posting such articles, please understand the difference between these two, and don't fall for the one sided biased western propaganda, for its a open fact that they will never tell you the truth.

 

[lem34]

DF ^^^ you say that mate but we only have the jewish version of what germans did to them if we had a massive ownership in west of nazis owning press it would be intersting to see what people belived in

What i am trying to say is that west press may exagarate at times how evil nazis were and do the opposite with zionism

 

[Zabaniyah]

DF ^^^ you say that mate but we only have the jewish version of what germans did to them if we had a massive ownership in west of nazis owning press it would be intersting to see what people belived in

What i am trying to say is that west press may exagarate at times how evil nazis were and do the opposite with zionism

Jews? Really? Considering how they've suffered, they have every right to tell their tales. I don't think you understand just how bad the Holocaust was. But, it may be over-rated considering the sheer evil the Imperial Japanese forces (another Axis power) unleashed upon Asian countries. So bad they were, they are unspeakable. It was only after being nuked twice, they became sane. And now we all see how great Japan is now.

As far as the film goes...it...is...just...a...film. I can't wait to watch The Dictator Both stupid and funny.

Zionism actually did started off with racist tendencies. Zionism == Racism.

What is Zionism? It is basically Jewish nationalism that states that the land of Israel is the holy land for Jews, and Jews only.

If we look at Israel today, there are people of diverse backgrounds. There are of-course Jews, Druze, and even Muslims. Arab-Israelis do have full citizenship and can vote. There are people ranging from European decent to African decent.

And what about the Nazis? They were extremely racist. Even racist against the race which is basically their own race. They stole cultural ideas from other cultures (i.e. Aryan). And as usual, fake/troll is always fail.

I think what we are saying here is that the Israeli leadership and their supporters in the US use the Holocaust card to justify their actions against Palestinians or even any aggression against neighboring Arabs. Even against Iran. This tactic is at best childish and increasingly ineffective, especially the sheer genocide we all saw in Iraq. But, that's not what we are exactly talking about here.

Bottom line: Zionism and Nazism are different, with different beginnings and deliverables. Similar, but different.

 

[lem34]

Read the following and tell me what you think mate ^^^^^

Israel: New Laws Marginalize Palestinian Arab Citizens | Human Rights Watch

 

[lem34]

Israel is in danger of emulating its worst enemies

http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...anger-of-emulating-its-worst-enemies-1.399550

It would be appropriate for the leadership to ensure that the present system of shutting its eyes to what is happening does not bring us to a track characteristic of the rise to power of authoritarian regimes.
By Na'ama Sheffi

In April 1933, Nazi S.A. stormtroopers carried out an attack on Jewish businesses in Germany, ransacking them and assaulting their owners. The German propaganda minister, Josef Goebbels, personally supervised the application of the "boycott day" which was designed to segregate the Jews and provide the Nazi party that had just risen to power an opportunity to make an impression.

In November 2011, Meir Ettinger was detained for questioning after he had wandered around the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem in a suspicious fashion. He said that he was taking part in a project known as "Hebrew work" that aims at mapping those shops which employ Arabs and warning Jews not to buy from them. One can assume that Ettinger abhors the Nazis and everything they represent. Nevertheless, he chose to use the system of marking [others] that anti-Semites have employed against Jews throughout the generations.

The act of marking another person as different, with the aim of protecting the society of the majority, is known from the pre-Muslim period when the Arabs obliged Jews and Christians to wear separate colored signs round their necks. In 1215, the Lateran Church Council decided that Jews must be segregated from the Christian community by wearing different clothes whose nature was not determined. Later they were forced to wear a ridiculous hat with pointed ends. At the time of the Spanish exile, the Inquisition marked the homes of those who continued to keep the Jewish precepts even though they had publicly declared their allegiance to Christianity.

The Nazis further developed the system. Following the "boycott day," they legislated the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service which led to the dismissal of some 2,000 Jewish civil servants, and they aroused nationalist instincts by publicly burning books written by Jews. The racist Nuremberg Laws, adding the names "Sarah" and "Israel" to the original names of all Jews, stamping the passports of Jews with the letter "J" and imposing the wearing of the yellow Star of David, were all precursors to the total annihilation of the Jews.

Today, as well, there are certain groups that mark the Jews. Israeli academic institutions for the study of anti-Semitism document these acts in Europe: insulting Jews and beating them in public places, writing something deliberately harmful, and spraying swastikas on Jewish gravestones. This last idea has recently been adopted by Jews who have desecrated Muslim cemeteries in Israel.

"Hebrew work" is the start of a slippery slope whose end it would be best for us not to see. Marking the shops is legal, apparently. But the underlying thuggery that it embodies is a threat not only to Arab workers but to all Israelis. It is possible to be heroes on the back of the Palestinians who live and work inside Israel and who constitute a minority. But this "heroism" is likely to lead to a widespread conflagration in the region in which Israelis are an insignificant minority. It is also likely to undermine the democratic foundations of the country, and to sever its connections with its allies.

Actions of the kind taken by Israeli right-wing groups on the borders of the Green Line and beyond them have been going on for many years. They fit in well with the more comprehensive framework of humiliating foreigners on the part of government representatives, and of initiating future bills to restrict freedom of information and the media.

Perhaps the right-wing movement does not intend to cause Israeli society to deteriorate into the type of violence adopted by Israel's worst enemies. But, despite its weaknesses, it would be appropriate for the leadership to ensure that the present system of shutting its eyes to what is happening does not bring us to a track characteristic of the rise to power of authoritarian regimes. The prime minister, as the son of an important historian, is surely aware of the danger

 

[Zabaniyah]

Read the following and tell me what you think mate ^^^^^

Israel: New Laws Marginalize Palestinian Arab Citizens | Human Rights Watch

Unfortunately, true Zionism still persists among extremists with powerful influences.

Another sponsor, Yisrael Hasson of the Kadima party, said in December 2010 that "the bill reflects the Knesset's commitment to work to preserve the ability to realize the Zionist dream in practice in the state of Israel" through "population dispersal," which the government had begun "thirty years ago ... [with] a string of small communities in the Galilee and Negev."

The "Zionist Dream" is just a dream.

 

[lem34]

Unfortunately, true Zionism still persists among extremists with powerful influences.



The "Zionist Dream" is just a dream.

yea but that zionist machine is still active the nazi machine isnt. I for one despise what happened to the jews and there is not a bone of anti semitism in me but having said palestinians should not have to suffer for the sins of Nazi germany and european antions

 

[Zabaniyah]

yea but that zionist machine is still active the nazi machine isnt. I for one despise what happened to the jews and there is not a bone of anti semitism in me but having said palestinians should not have to suffer for the sins of Nazi germany and european antions

Technically, a Jewish state should have been established somewhere in Europe since it was the Nazis who carried out The Holocaust. But, Zionism claims Israel only. Just how big or small is this Israel is supposed to be is questionable.

In fact, the name "Israel" itself is misleading.