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Nawaz Sharif meet Indian Military Attache

Baat national security ki hy tenu atey di payi ey
in modern world national security and economy are closely linked and access to information and communication has made it much easy to incite public to violence,nawaz sharif is suffering from severe memory loss disease and is unfit to talk and make speeches,he cannot speak few words due to such problem and need assistance from around as evident from his speeches and I think he not remember much of secrets as he is suffering from such disease in old age
 
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The same was said by his followers as well. I was just merely pointing out the ordeal that his followers had to go through because of his actions. :)
The last I remember it was Nawaz himself who tried to get a deal just a few weeks ago via Zubair. If you see the things in context it's just hilarious. In fact if you go deeper 90% of actions establishment ever did was to benefit their blue eyed boy even got him out of country, but his greed and lust holds no boundaries.
Good point, I suggest Imran Khan do a dharna outside GHQ demanding the repatriation of Nawaz and no further NRO. By the way, if any of these latest developments seem even slightly confusing and befuddling, it’s because the truth is being kept from you, I sincerely hope you find it for yourself.
 
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Good point, I suggest Imran Khan do a dharna outside GHQ demanding the repatriation of Nawaz and no further NRO. By the way, if any of these latest developments seem even slightly confusing and befuddling, it’s because the truth is being kept from you, I sincerely hope you find it for yourself.
Why would he do that, look how things played out. It has reached a point of no return. I think it has never been more transparent, it's staring right at us, some of us just don't want to accept it. :D The outburst of Nawaz is a testament to this fact.
 
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Why would he do that, look how things played out. It has reached a point of no return. I think it has never been more transparent, it's staring right at us, some of us just don't want to accept it. :D The outburst of Nawaz is a testament to this fact.
Haha okay, if you say so. I was once inclined to your view and others’, between then and now, I’d say I’m glad my eyes are open now, no matter how unpopular the truth is and how much scorn it gets me.
 
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Haha okay, if you say so. I was once inclined to your view and others’, between then and now, I’d say I’m glad my eyes are open now, no matter how unpopular the truth is and how much scorn it gets me.
So to sum it up sir, you are hopeful for an another NRO? :)
 
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... Atleast IK went there to discuss resuming of cricket ties between Pakistan and India, what was the benefit of inviting Modi to Pakistan?

Same reason PM Imran Khan invited Hindu Extremist PM Narendra Modi to his inauguration which was rejected by India.

I'm not sure if you know this or not but Pakistan and India have fought several wars with each other. Both countries just don't get along. Every Government in Pakistan and India tries to initiate a peace process but something always happens, everything stalls and it's back to square one.

After a year or two, the peace process is attempted again and the same things happen again. As a result, the leadership from both sides comes into contact on regular basis. This has been going on for decades.

Maybe you were born yesterday, hence you're not aware of any of this.
 
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If Fatima Jinnah sister of our founder can be labelled as traitor by Victorian slave Ayub then anyone can be a traitor in this country. It’s pretty obvious and inevitable, when you take panga with generals you will be labelled as traitor. This time it’s different, the game is being played in Punjab.
 
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Common guys, whats wrong with all of you ?
If he meet RAW or indian delegation so where is evidence ?? If minister's have evidence then show to court and declare him ghaddar by law. its a same thing as PAPA jhons pizza money trail has been asked and so many senior defense forum said register the case in court then he will be present their evidence in court not in public...!

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This is another development on the same theme. Another achievement for PML-N and Maryam Nawaz. Tariq Fatah has written an article in Toronto Sun in support of Maryam Nawaz. He called her 'Pakistan's Joan of Arc'.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/fatah-pakistans-joan-of-arc-frightens-its-generals

Aptly so bcz Jhon of arc was delusional idiot who considered here self as a Prophet of God. In the end in her delusions she marched entire armies in to slaughter fests.
 
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Well, I just say one thing, I am very critical of some Generals roles ( I love the army, because it is full of brave soldiers and officers who give their lives routinely for Pakistan) but I wouldn't even dream meeting an Indian military attache.

Did he go to discuss Pakistan army's leadership with an Indian military attache!!

What treason looks like in your books!!

My whole contention is with the 'evidence', or lack thereof, of any meeting between NS and the Indian MA. Is NZ totally insane? Why the hell would he risk meeting anyone Indian at this critical political junction?
 
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Haqqani and Altaf proved it by their actions or are you so blind to see that?

How did Haqqani and/or Altaf prove to be traitors? If you want, we can discuss rationally but it will have to be without bias and passion.
 
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Oh really?

No matter what, Pakistan will remain in the same situation until people stop praising criminals and “traitors”. A traitor spent millions on hiring lobbying firms in the US against Pakistan Army, a man working on the Indian agenda just for the sake of his politics and int support, a man never open his mouth (or even name) "Kulbushan Yadav" in his entire tenure. He allowed 30+ Indians including NSA Ajit Doval (who drives the most hateful, destructive policy against Pakistan and responsible for killing Pakistanis) welcomed by your beloved without VISA.

Govt officials working in the foreign office including the ambassador to India Abdul Basit openly stated NS barred FO from speaking against India. A traitor praises by every single Indian Govt and mil officer. A man about whom Indian politicians stated “We have invested so much in Nawaz Sharif”, a criminal who intentionally destroyed our water case in Int court.

If what you say holds merit then I have a counter argument, isn't the power that let NS leave equally responsible and equally anti-Pakistan? Shouldn't there be cases of sedition and treason against NS instead of mere corruption? What was ISI and MI doing if they don't have prove against the anti-state activities of NS and if they do have evidence, why wasn't it presented to courts for the ultimate punishment to NS?



He and his relative Ishaq Dar using bureaucracy and illegal appointees for getting information and interfering in Govt matters. You'll be charged under the treason act if you interfere at this level anywhere in the world. A corrupt person and his criminal daughter lying with the voters, abuse and insult state institutions and creating chaos (Fasad) but never answer a single question about their illegal wealth. He compromised our national security, and involved Saudia, UK, Qatar, Turkey in our internal matters in his entire tenure and even after.

Yes, he must have involved other countries in our internal matters so blame him for that. As for his corruption, there is neither any doubt nor any accuracy as to how much corruption the family has done over the decades but that is beyond the points I had made; never did I dispute corruption or other illegal activities committed by NS and his family.



Always blaming, criticizing and bashing Army for the coup but never talk about why he always doing pangay bazyan with the mil establishment for no reason. What was his agenda? Why he continuously poking nose in their area? Why he wanted to install his puppet in the GHQ? Military isn’t his political party where he can make changes day/night. He is the most annoying head of state in the history who keep pushing himself in the matters intentionally (with no reason) who has vast consequences and repercussions. In short, Aap jo marzi kartay rahain everything will be fine till other side react .. cheekhain aur rona dhona uswaqt shuru ho jab agla react karay yaan aap ke saath woh shuru hojaye jo aap arsa daraaz se auroon ke saath kartay rahain.... amazing!

All things aside, are you actually supporting the illegal acts of Military? Coups are illegal, right? Nobody gives the Army the right to assume power by deposing an elected Prime Minister and their BOSS! An elected PM can fire the Army chief and elevate anyone from the next in line to that position, it is his prerogative. Imagine the chaos if all powerful subordinates started deposing their Boss's and taking over. Having said that, I believe Musharraf's coup was out of necessary and justified. However, Musharraf should have executed NS at that time instead of letting him go.

Having said that, wouldn't NS have an enmity with the person who deposed him......and with those who supported his ouster? It is natural.



I failed to understand the mindset of the supporters “wesay sara kuch fooj karti hey par Karachi operation Nawaz Sharif nay kiya” funniest thing I have ever heard similar to "beragarak sara fooj nay kiya hey par dhamakay hamnay kiye hain" I mean it couldn’t be possible any sane person with right mindset will say something like this. This is beyond comprehension, indeed a laughable phrase.

Agreed. Karachi operation was all Army, there was hardly any political wisdom behind it. Credit for Nuclear Power goes more so to Bhutto than anyone else, including the Army. And it was under pressure of the Army that NS agreed to Nuclear Tests otherwise there wouldn't be any.



What a sad state of affairs, only country in the world where a convicted criminal known for his (proven) corruption and illegal wealth, known for his traitorous work against the state, defended by someone coming from an educated background (Sorry to say).

explain us whom you called “traitor”? Zara hamain bhi pata chalay

I hope I have made my point of view as clear as possible.
 
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