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Naval guards: India moves to downgrade diplomatic ties with Italy

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NEW DELHI: India is downgrading its diplomatic ties with Italy and has asked its ambassador-designate to that country Basant Kumar Gupta, who was scheduled to leave for Rome on Friday, not to proceed to take up his posting.

The government which is reviewing the entire gamut of bilateral ties has decided to with-hold posting of Gupta, who was expected to take charge by end of next week, after Italian government reneged on its promise to send back two naval guards, facing trial for allegedly killing two Indian fishermen.

Accusing Italy of violating diplomatic norms and breaching assurance given to the Supreme Court, the highest court of the land, the sources said it was totally "unacceptable" and India was looking at downgrading its ties with that country to express its unhappiness.

"The decision of not sending Mr Gupta to assume his position is tantamount to the fact that India wants to keep diplomatic ties with Italy at a level lesser than the ambassador," the sources said.

Gupta was named successor to Debabrata Saha, who retired in December last.

Meanwhile, all the exit points, including airports across the country have been alerted to prevent Italian ambassador Daniele Mancini from leaving the country. The decision was taken by the Union home ministry a day after the Supreme Court restrained the Italian ambassador from leaving India without its permission, official sources said.

On Thursday, the government had also announced decision to initiate review of entire gamut of relations with Italy which includes diplomatic, trade and defence ties apart from reaching out to European Union, which was briefed on India's views and position in the matter.

Official spokesman in the ministry of external affairs said the "entire expanse of our interaction" with Italy was being reviewed while stressing that Italy has to "respect and abide" by the agreements between it and the Supreme Court.

The apex court also issued notices to Mancini and the two naval guards — Massimiliano Lattore and Salvatore Girone — and asked them to file their response by March 18 and posted the matter for further hearing next Monday.


Naval guards: India moves to downgrade diplomatic ties with Italy - The Times of India
 
EU has refused to comment or interfere in what it feels is a bilateral matter between India and Italy - strictly "no comments" from the EU on the notice served to the Italian ambassador who has been told not to leave the country till March 19th.
 
>Well I guess that means good bye ARX 160
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No seriously, its a good move. But it was obviously a stupid HC decision to send them back a 2end time :hitwall: to cast votes...
 
>Well I guess that means good bye ARX 160
beretta_arx160-16-gl-optr.jpg


No seriously, its a good move. But it was obviously a stupid HC decision to send them back a 2end time :hitwall: to cast votes...

Only second time , even the first time was also a mistake .

How many of 200+ Indian prisoners in Italy have come to India for any religious celebrations ??
 
>Well I guess that means good bye ARX 160
beretta_arx160-16-gl-optr.jpg


No seriously, its a good move. But it was obviously a stupid HC decision to send them back a 2end time :hitwall: to cast votes...

Its not High court but supreme court in a second time....

Only second time , even the first time was also a mistake

First time there was surety bond of 1.2 million USD.
Now it is just a toilet (signed) paper that is involved.

Well I guess that means good bye ARX 160


What comes first?
ARX-160 or India's Honour?
 
>Well I guess that means good bye ARX 160
beretta_arx160-16-gl-optr.jpg


No seriously, its a good move. But it was obviously a stupid HC decision to send them back a 2end time :hitwall: to cast votes...

personally i think our courts know whats better for the country than us.we must respect the judiciary . nobody expected a sovereign nation to stoop to such a low level. i have complete confidence on our diplomacy .they will return .
 
>Well I guess that means good bye ARX 160

No seriously, its a good move. But it was obviously a stupid HC decision to send them back a 2end time :hitwall: to cast votes...

I think that could be because on the case itself the Italians are probably right. It is likely that the ship was in waters beyond our jurisdiction and in any international fora we would actually lose. We, (obviously) would care too hoots about anyone else and picked the boys up to show the middle finger because the issue had become sensitive. What the Indian govt. might have said is 'yeah we are not supposed to hold them, but we're gonna do that anyway. What we can do is make it easy for them until a court decision is made'.
 
India can not do too much to mess with the Italians. We will do some face saving moves, probably in consultations with Italy.

If we pi$$ off Italy too much then the names of the helicopter deal kickbacks receiver will be out, and trust me, the kickbacks have not gone to the opposition parties :)

This episode in a excellent example of how corruption weakens the very core of our nation's power and standing. Instead of getting emotional, Indians should analyse this carefully.
 
First time there was surety bond of 1.2 million USD.
Now it is just a toilet (signed) paper that is involved.

Bond or no bond , two murders who killed Indian citizens in should not have given permission to visit their country for whatever reasons.
 
I think that could be because on the case itself the Italians are probably right. It is likely that the ship was in waters beyond our jurisdiction and in any international fora we would actually lose.

Kerala fishermen in a ragtag boat going in an open sea (away from Indian shores) for fishing?

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First of all this is a small boat and not a blue sea fishing trawler


Read more at: Italian guards arrested for murder of Kerala fishermen : South, News - India Today
Then, as per yr link, here is the stuff to yr consternation:

The Kerala Police on Sunday arrested two Italian navy personnel on board the merchant vessel Enrica Lexie for allegedly opening fire at a fishing boat off the Alappuzha coast on Wednesday night. Two fishermen were killed in the incident.

Dont tell me an Alappuzha coast is an alien land.....
 

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