natural gas rich Qatar invests 15 billion USD to Turkey to help Turkey

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

But for some strange reasons they are not doing it, they are just barking and backstabbing.

Dogs waiting for the signal from their master, Trump.

 

[T-Rex]

You don't understand a simple thing here.

KSA and UAE do not support the removal of other Arab regimes unless they are outright hostile.

They do not support removal of despotic regimes because they themselves are despotic regimes. They work for the removal of elected governments in the Muslim world that much is clear.

KSA and UAE are not supporting Islamists (contrary to popular belief, in the case of KSA this ended after the USSR-Afghan war that KSA was forced to participate in, along with Pakistan, by the same US) as there is not a single terrorist, Jihadi organization or extremist organization that is pro-Arab regimes. Their biggest target (if KSA was a weak state) would be no other than KSA as proven between 2003-2006 (especially) and long before 9/11.

Why would the mafia godfathers in KSA and UAE support Islamists? It was an open secret that these wahabi terror godfathers are the sworn enemy of Islam, now it is very clear because the mask has been torn apart. These wahabi godfathers support 'Islamists' like Daesh and Al Qaeda.

As I told you, KSA became infiltrated by the MB in the 1970's during King Faisal.

King Faisal was the only one in the entire Al Saud family who believed in Islam, the rest are charlatans working for their zionazi masters.

 

[PakSword]

It's like educating people rather than arguing, that's what happens when you try to teach others about their countries. I don't see myself teaching Pakistan

Irony is, when an Iraqi claims that he is educating others.. whose country had been sent to stone age by US with the help of his own brothers..

 

[T-Rex]

The "Arab Spring" was not a real revolution in most Arab countries.

Of course not and what can we expect from someone who thinks that sissy, MBS, MBZ, netanyahu are the real revolutionaries? I can smell pork, wine and whores from this 'venerable' PDF member.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Irony is, when an Iraqi claims that he is educating others.. whose country had been sent to stone age by US with the help of his own brothers..

LOL

What a goddamn logic. There are Iraqi intellectuals, researchers, professors. And there are Pakistanis with an IQ lower than my shoe size. And vice-versa.

This is individual specific, this forum amazes me.

 

[PakSword]

This is individual specific, this forum amazes me.

Get out of here then..
Iraq is really nothing.. nada.. for us... and for others... The once fourth largest power proved nothing when US attacked them.. and thanks to it's brothers on the west..

US shoved the oil in your .. and then burned that as well.. and took away the rest..

Anyway, I don't want to indulge in any kind of talk with trolls.. so shoo away..

 

[T-Rex]

Yes, while the Anatolies are happy about the Qatari "Gulfies" while cursing other Arabs but when Arabs invest in their economy, they become Halal and blindly support the retarded MB project led by Erdogan who normal sane Turks should be against the foremost before anyone else.

Before being an Arab HH Tamim has chosen to be a decent human being, a good Muslim. You Arab low lives won't understand this, it's too complicated for retards to understand. So give it up, go back to your herem full of wine and beautiful whores. BTW, singing the MB song won't cover up the pain in your butt that the MBS project has failed miserably since the July 15 coup attempt.

I never called you a dog but since you did, I would say that being a dog is working for foreigners and earning your living abroad while writing nonsense about those that host you and make it possible for you to earn your living. Well, since you apparently dislike Arabs, I suggest to migrate to Iran or Turkey or somewhere else to earn your living. I don't think that a single Arab in UAE would cry if such two-faced people were deported or left on their own.

Congratulations. You have a University degree which more than half of people in KSA have (one of the highest rates in the world). KSA also being one of the few countries were women outnumber men on this front.

Shall I praise you now or what? Would it not be better to serve your actual country instead? Far away from "stupid and evil Arabs". Sounds like a good idea but maybe the money is too good and the life? Better bark online instead, lol.

Why don't you migrate to the zionazi state? Stop suggesting to people where they should live, people don't need this from dirty charlatans.

The problem with Erdogan is that his mind operates on this mechanism of honor and shame

Yes we can see how irritating these two virtues are to people like you who have none of these virtues. We don't expect pigs to perform ablution because prayers are not meant for pigs.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Get out of here then..
Iraq is really nothing.. nada.. for us... and for others... The once fourth largest power proved nothing when US attacked them.. and thanks to it's brothers on the west..

US shoved the oil in your .. and then burned that as well.. and took away the rest..

Anyway, I don't want to indulge in any kind of talk with trolls.. so shoo away..

That's not really the topic neither am I saying that Iraq is a superpower, the US can trash any country in the middle east including 180 million impoverished Pakistan if not for its nukes. That's nothing to feel bad about, it's simply that their economic, industrial and military strength supersedes that of any regional country by far. Including Turkey, Iran and Pakistan.

 

[T-Rex]

Dogs waiting for the signal from their master, Trump.

They have the green signal from that Nazi, it's just that everytime they think of the dire consequence of facing both Turkey and Iran together, they do it in their pants.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Those 3+ million Syrians had no other choice but to flrrto the closesed country, it is a matter pf war of geography, not economics ..BTW Turkish economy was build and boosted in the 80s taking advantage of a war between 2 Muslim countries, namely the Iran-Iraq war, so it is fairly recent and thus fragile..

It has been years, none in Turkey has gone to any Arab country but dying on the route to the ''Kuffar'' Europe, nor any Arab country invited them in, like the same ''Kuffar'' Europe, unlike Turkey.

Turkey has opened the door for Iraq, Syria for many times, the same scenario in the first sentence above has repeated itself.

The second sentence is also the reason for Turks' economical and life standards' fall along with rise of terrorism using those two countries as safe bases.

The third sentence also helps to show the solidarity of Arab countries when they only condemn Turkey for its fight against the terrorism in those countries, ironically, support the terrorism.

the physical or moral ground is not on your side, feel free to challenge it.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

They have the green signal from that Nazi, it's just that everytime they think of the dire consequence of facing both Turkey and Iran together, they do it in their pants.

Dogs fighting against a wolf and lion. Doesn’t seem fair at all.

 

[T-Rex]

but their time will come.

Your Machiavellian prince has been very quiet these days, do you think his time has come?

 

[PakSword]

That's not really the topic neither am I saying that Iraq is a superpower, the US can trash any country in the middle east including 180 million impoverished Pakistan if not for its nukes. That's nothing to feel bad about, it's simply that their economic, industrial and military strength supersedes that of any regional country by far. Including Turkey, Iran and Pakistan.

And that's because people like you and the rest of the Arabs (not all) who think that they can progress alone..

How many universities these oil rich countries (including Iraq) built for the betterment of Muslims in general? Sometimes, you need to depend on others because you don't find the intelligent brains in your own country.. This is called immigration program, in which a western country gives scholarships to citizens of other countries (including Muslim countries), make it easy for them to live there permanently so that they make the most out of these particular individuals who score high in their universities.. This is how Europe progressed..

Keeping the wealth only to you means that you miss out on so many opportunities.. Imagine if Iraq had built universities, and started an immigration program back then, you guys could have integrated the best brains coming from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and other countries.. Those brains, who now work in US as its citizens, and US is US because of those immigrants, would have worked for you, and the rest of the middle eastern countries to make them great..

But no.. you guys have an inflated ego.. how could you integrate people coming from non-Arab lands because you are the only chosen people on this planet earth. You look down upon others.. insult non-Arabs (only if they are coming from poor Muslim countries), consider westerners as your masters.. and these western countries insult you by bombing you one by one..

How many Arab countries have been bombed till now? Start from Palestine, then coming to Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Yemen. And this list will not stop here.. Expect that more countries will be included soon.

 

[tesla]

i wonder really these al saud Charlatan fanboys why is constantly complaining about turkey if they dont like turkeys policies than they may ally with the other powers in the world.nobody forced them for make alliance with turkey lol

 

[Rasengan]

Who knows? I have encountered many strange people on PDF. Many of those people are turncoats. Pro-something one day and anti-something the next day. I am not like that. I have held relatively consistent views all the time on PDF.

I have never seen anything (which even simple logic dictates) that says that taking pride in your history is illegal, especially if it is great by all objective accounts.

You are talking to the wrong person. Just in this thread I have called many Arab regimes trash (incompetent and as in the case of Qatar sellouts towards other Arabs) and even said that most Arab and Muslim regimes are trash. That does not mean that every Arab or Muslim regime is that.

I am not going to admit something that is not the truth. I gave you actual evidence that proves this not to be the case. Nothing to do with pride just common sense. Of course I could reject the ground reality.

That is your unfunded view. I disagree and I can argue why you are not telling the truth.

Where is your evidence of trillions of dollars (1000 billions is 1 trillion just to put it into perspective) being invested in the West? Do you realize that KSA has had a trade surplus in the trade relations with the US for decades?

Look, I am far from the perfect Muslim. I might say and do things that are not perfect. But you can say the same about almost every Muslim. I am sure that you have skeletons in your closest.

I prefer being an Arab patriot and take pride in what objectively speaking is a great past but that does not mean that I believe in superiority. That's not the case. Just because I am answering anti-Arab trolls online with their own medicine, it does not mean that I am reminding everyone left and right (in person) why x or y is superior or x or y is inferior.

Can you tell me why everyone else not an Arab can take pride in their history on PDF unchallenged but when Arabs do it Muslims are supposedly offended? Why is that? I have my own theories why that is but it is better left unsaid here since many are apparently very touchy.

You did not read what I wrote, bro. I said that KSA was far from perfect but we are one of the last countries on earth to criticize on this front after all of our sacrifices and decade long support. How many countries did as much as we did? I can only think of Egypt who did more.

No, but 80 million people inhabit Arabia and I am sure that they could and would nuke us and the region as I wrote if they were losing the war. You doubt that?

There's nothing wrong in taking pride from your history. But when an individual becomes obsessive over the accomplishments of his ancestors and feels the need to attack other Muslim rulers that were from a different ethnic background then clearly this is wrong. My ancestors ruled Persia for centuries but their arrogance blinded them when the Holy Prophet {PBUH) called them to Islam. Thus I take no pride in their accomplishments as they defied Allah's authority by believing in fire and calling themselves omnipotent. The only history I care about are Muslim rulers, those people who fought for the cause of Islam rather than fighting for greed and power.

The Ottoman Empire did many great things and there history belongs to us because we are Muslim's. The different Arab dynasties did have a big impact on this world and every Muslim should be proud. When the Muslim's ruled India for 1000 years with different Kings this history also belongs to you. I don't know why people on this forum feel the need to attack Muslim rulers based upon there ethnicity. Pakistani, Turkish and Iranian posters do the same mistake.

In my opinion every Muslim regime is trash. What have they achieved in the last 100 years? They have been dictated by the West and we can't even dislodge a tiny little country called Israel. What's the point of Pakistan becoming a nuclear power when we have to continuously ignore the Palestinian issue to placate Washington. Why don't you like Qatar? Give me an explanation other than the Saud family having an issue with them or them choosing a non-Arab over an Arab.

I can't change your opinion so if you want to believe in the power of Saudi Arabia then be my guest. But I do know on the day of judgement the question will be asked on why our rulers were derelict in there duty to protect the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia is the 13th largest US debt holder in the world and okay you were right maybe they haven't invested trillions of dollars but still you own nearly 1% of there economy...wouldn't it have been better if you invested that money in a Muslim country rather than a state which protects Israel?

Its true nobody can become a perfect Muslim, this can only be attributed to the various Prophets of Islam who were sinless. But we can still speak up against injustice. If someone is anti-Arab then you can defend yourself, but you don't have to attack Muslim rulers from that ethnic background otherwise your no different to them. I will reiterate it again. I don't know why brothers on this forum are attacking different Muslim rulers when they all belong to us.

Saudi land is sacred no power on earth can damage the soil in which the Holy Prophet {PBUH) use to walk on. Why don't you develop your own nuclear bombs? What's stopping you? America? Develop a strong military and lead the Muslim world. Do you think if America attacked Saudi Arabia the Muslim world would be silent? I don't want you to think I hate Arabs. I think Arab people are wonderful and they have great respect in Pakistan and this forum might not reflect that but that is the truth.