National Identity is a Myth

[truthfollower]

Nationality feels powerful, especially today. But the idea of identifying with millions of strangers just based on borders is relatively new. We explain why it was invented — and how it changed the world.

 

[Iñigo]

Eric Hobsbawn

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Ernest Gellner

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[CatSultan]

Race is temporary. Nobody remembers the Aztecs, Scythians or Romans and soon we will all also be forgotten

Countries are also temporary. Every empire will fall and every country will be destroyed.

The only thing that is forever is Islam. Therefore, the best Identity to base your country on is Islam and Pakistan is the only country that is based on Islam. Because Pakistan is based off of Islam we will always be forever. If their are Muslims on this earth than Pakistan exists. That is why Muhammad Ali Jinnah said "Their is no power on earth that can undo Pakistan."

 

[SQ8]

Race is temporary. Nobody remembers the Aztecs, Scythians or Romans and soon we will all also be forgotten

Countries are also temporary. Every empire will fall and every country will be destroyed.

The only thing that is forever is Islam. Therefore, the best Identity to base your country on is Islam and Pakistan is the only country that is based on Islam. Because Pakistan is based off of Islam we will always be forever. If their are Muslims on this earth than Pakistan exists. That is why Muhammad Ali Jinnah said "Their is no power on earth that can undo Pakistan."

The caveat being believing muslims who actually espouse the humanitarian values that the prophet and his companions set in their lives. Otherwise - Bangladesh and the many other minority and sectarian dissent issues that have “undone” Pakistan will continue to be and Pakistan will be undone.

Unfortunately, the common Pakistani muslims who thinks they are devout feel it is more important to make the prayer late and then sit for 30 minutes instead of wanting no fellow muslims are inconvenienced by their car blocking the road. As long the majority of Pakistanis are like that and they are generally inconsiderate of each other then Pakistan doesn’t really have a positive future.

Nations arent built on blackened foreheads, bug beards or oppressing the weak to preserve a tribal archaic culture in the guise of Islam - they are build on values and care for each other.
Edhi and others like them keep Pakistan together, not the Council of Islamic ideology or TLP types or even the maddened aurat march category.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

the day we upload human consciousness into machines and merge individual streams of consciousness..is the day nationalism, racism , religious bigotry, misogyny ends

 

[El Sidd]

the day we upload human consciousness into machines and merge individual streams of consciousness..is the day nationalism, racism , religious bigotry, misogyny ends

You can never be more wrong.

 

[Menace2Society]

Our goal is in these early phases is to make the Pakistani civilization endure. It will go through many phases and evolve, the symbology is already in place for the transition.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

You can never be more wrong.

Our minds will soon be turned into bits and bytes ...lets hope it happens in the next 20-30 years

 

[El Sidd]

Our minds will soon be turned into bits and bytes ...lets hope it happens in the next 20-30 years

They already compute in bits or bytes or binary or whatever and those combinations would churn out theological concepts.

Man has an illusion that if converted to a machine would practically achieve immorality.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

They already compute in bits or bytes or binary or whatever and those combinations would churn out theological concepts.

Man has an illusion that if converted to a machine would practically achieve immorality.

There will be no individual anymore...may be all minds will merge...or may be each will exist as a seperate file

but we would be finally able to divorce the mind from the body...there will be many advantages to this....we would be able to shrink human beings, therefore drastically reducing global energy consumption and thereby reversing Climate Change...on top of this ..if we ever make starships, they can be extremely small and human beings can actually travel to other systems then without dying before even completing 1 percent of the journey

 

[magra]

There will be no individual anymore...may be all minds will merge...or may be each will exist as a seperate file

but we would be finally able to divorce the mind from the body...there will be many advantages to this....we would be able to shrink human beings, therefore drastically reducing global energy consumption and thereby reversing Climate Change...on top of this ..if we ever make starships, they can be extremely small and human beings can actually travel to other systems then without dying before even completing 1 percent of the journey

aaj kya science fiction novel padhke aaye ho

 

[El Sidd]

There will be no individual anymore...may be all minds will merge...or may be each will exist as a seperate file

but we would be finally able to divorce the mind from the body...there will be many advantages to this....we would be able to shrink human beings, therefore drastically reducing global energy consumption and thereby reversing Climate Change...on top of this ..if we ever make starships, they can be extremely small and human beings can actually travel to other systems then without dying before even completing 1 percent of the journey

You can revert back to being an atom it will still be tied to pre programmed inherited urge to think and differentiate.

 

[jamahir]

but we would be finally able to divorce the mind from the body...there will be many advantages to this....we would be able to shrink human beings, therefore drastically reducing global energy consumption and thereby reversing Climate Change

There is no need to shrink human bodies for the world to not have climate change.

For a start let's simply decide to abolish privately-owned personal transport vehicles all over the world.

There will be radical lessening of pollution directly ( vehicle usage ), secondarily ( vehicle manufacture ) and tertiarily ( raw materials mining or processing for vehicle manufacture ).

Such change was seen during the world lockdown months last year. There were wildcats and other creatures appearing in emptied roads in some places in the Western world.

on top of this ..if we ever make starships, they can be extremely small and human beings can actually travel to other systems then without dying before even completing 1 percent of the journey

Well, humans can be biologically enhanced for longer living. This has been spoken of in sci-fi in Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars book.

And when the human starship travelers get bored of watching cat videos and watching space go by there is the alternative of Suspended Animation. Humans still remaining humans.

 

[ZAMURD]

Our goal is in these early phases is to make the Pakistani civilization endure. It will go through many phases and evolve, the symbology is already in place for the transition.

Can you please explain more cause I'm worried seeing where Pakistani elite and society is going???

 

[CatSultan]

Our minds will soon be turned into bits and bytes ...lets hope it happens in the next 20-30 years

They would have to do it over my dead body

The caveat being believing muslims who actually espouse the humanitarian values that the prophet and his companions set in their lives. Otherwise - Bangladesh and the many other minority and sectarian dissent issues that have “undone” Pakistan will continue to be and Pakistan will be undone.

Unfortunately, the common Pakistani muslims who thinks they are devout feel it is more important to make the prayer late and then sit for 30 minutes instead of wanting no fellow muslims are inconvenienced by their car blocking the road. As long the majority of Pakistanis are like that and they are generally inconsiderate of each other then Pakistan doesn’t really have a positive future.

Nations arent built on blackened foreheads, bug beards or oppressing the weak to preserve a tribal archaic culture in the guise of Islam - they are build on values and care for each other.
Edhi and others like them keep Pakistan together, not the Council of Islamic ideology or TLP types or even the maddened aurat march category.

Their are jerks who block the road everywhere. That doesn't change the fact that Pakistanis are the charitable people. We are the country with second most refugees.