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NASAs James Webb telescope successfully launched and deployed into space

Wrong, 50% of funding comes from ESA and also the same amount of the tech and individual parts. Stop to steal others works.

It is not NASA space telescope. Its that easy.


The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) is expected to cost NASA $9.7 billion over 24 years. Of that amount, $8.8 billion was spent on spacecraft development between 2003 and 2021; $861 million is planned to support five years of operations. Adjusted for inflation to 2020 dollars, the lifetime cost to NASA will be approximately $10.8 billion.

That is only NASA’s portion. The European Space Agency provided the Ariane 5 launch vehicle and two of the four science instruments for an estimated cost of €700 million. The Canadian Space Agency contributed sensors and scientific instrumentation, which cost approximately CA$200 million.

This places the James Webb Space Telescope among the most expensive scientific platforms in history, comparable only to the Hubble Space Telescope and the Large Hadron Collider at CERN.

https://www.planetary.org/articles/cost-of-the-jwst


Europe provided two instruments and the Ariane 5 launcher, but as I said the vast majority of development, integration, and testing was done in the US at NASA facilities.

And the majority of the project was funded by the US taxpayer. It’s a NASA telescope.
Perhaps you can enumerate the 50% of tech that came from ESA which you claim has been stolen.
The Ariane launcher was the overwhelming part of ESA's contribution.
Scientists either side of the Atlantic would never demean themselves bickering over what is a petty layman's injured ego.
You will see no European SCIENTIST talk such rubbish.
We are all delighted, excited and await the unfurling. All other petty concerns are for the hoi polloi.


ESA funded 50% of this project? Since when? :disagree:
 
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The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) is expected to cost NASA $9.7 billion over 24 years. Of that amount, $8.8 billion was spent on spacecraft development between 2003 and 2021; $861 million is planned to support five years of operations. Adjusted for inflation to 2020 dollars, the lifetime cost to NASA will be approximately $10.8 billion.

That is only NASA’s portion. The European Space Agency provided the Ariane 5 launch vehicle and two of the four science instruments for an estimated cost of €700 million. The Canadian Space Agency contributed sensors and scientific instrumentation, which cost approximately CA$200 million.

This places the James Webb Space Telescope among the most expensive scientific platforms in history, comparable only to the Hubble Space Telescope and the Large Hadron Collider at CERN.

https://www.planetary.org/articles/cost-of-the-jwst


Europe provided two instruments and the Ariane 5 launcher, but as I said the vast majority of development, integration, and testing was done in the US at NASA facilities.

And the majority of the project was funded by the US taxpayer. It’s a NASA telescope.



ESA funded 50% of this project? Since when? :disagree:


Angry much that its international one and not NASA? The decission making board is 40% european as well.
 
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40% of all decissions regarding research is done by Europeans. 40% of all commitees are set by Europeans.

Of the 4 main instruments, the MIRI was developed, funded and build by ESA.

This is not a NASA space telescope, its an international one. What scientists say is completly irrelevant, it was build by european tax payers and evry minute of its use is planned down by contracts according the amount of participation on the project. All decissions regarding it are made by committess where are are set with 40% members from ESA.

In other words, what european scientists say is irrelevant, before they speak, ESA committees decide if they can work at all.

Americans have the toxic habit to try hijacking shared projects. Its important to counter this from day one.

NASA provided US$9.7 billion, including funds to cover operating costs in space; €700 million (US$810 million) came from ESA; and the CSA contributed Can$200 million (US$160 million).


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03620-1

The ESA provided less than 10% of funding for the entire project.
 
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Angry much that its international one and not NASA? The decission making board is 40% european as well.


The US taxpayer funded 90% of the project, and NASA did the vast majority of development, integration, and testing. It’s a NASA telescope, and whose the one trying to steal other’s work again?

50% ESA funding? Did you pull that one out of your rectum?
 
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You forget to mention that it operated one year longer than intended.

And it discovered alot

Herschel was instrumental in the discovery of an unknown and unexpected step in the star forming process. The initial confirmation and later verification via help from ground-based telescopes of a vast hole of empty space, previously believed to be a dark nebula, in the area of NGC 1999 shed new light in the way newly forming star regions discard the material which surround them.[39]

In July 2010 a special issue of Astronomy and Astrophysics was published with 152 papers on initial results from the observatory.[40]

A second special issue of Astronomy and Astrophysics was published in October 2010 concerning the sole HIFI instrument, due its technical failure which took it down over 6 months between August 2009 and February 2010.[41]

It was reported on 1 August 2011, that molecular oxygen had been definitively confirmed in space with the Herschel Space Telescope, the second time scientists have found the molecule in space. It had been previously reported by the Odin team.[42][43]

An October 2011 report published in Nature states that Herschel's measurements of deuterium levels in the comet Hartley 2 suggests that much of Earth's water could have initially come from cometary impacts.[44] On 20 October 2011, it was reported that oceans-worth of cold water vapor had been discovered in the accretion disc of a young star. Unlike warm water vapor, previously detected near forming stars, cold water vapor would be capable of forming comets which then could bring water to inner planets, as is theorized for the origin of water on Earth.[45]

On 18 April 2013, the Herschel team announced in another Nature paper that it had located an exceptional starburst galaxy which produced over 2,000 solar masses of stars a year. The galaxy, termed HFLS3, is located at z = 6.34, originating only 880 million years after the Big Bang.[46]

Just days before the end of its mission, ESA announced that Herschel's observations had led to the conclusion that water on Jupiter had been delivered as a result of the collision of Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 in 1994.[47]

On 22 January 2014, ESA scientists using Herschel data reported the detection, for the first definitive time, of water vapor on the dwarf planet, Ceres, largest object in the asteroid belt.[48][49] The finding is unexpected because comets, not asteroids, are typically considered to "sprout jets and plumes". According to one of the scientists, "The lines are becoming more and more blurred between comets and asteroids."[49]
who cares, the Americans will just 're-discover' and 'confirm' those findings with JWST and take the credit. too bad Herschel, the prototype as well as the pioneering mission for JWST, will quickly be forgotten and never get mentioned again
 
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The US taxpayer funded 90% of the project, and NASA did the vast majority of development, integration, and testing. It’s a NASA telescope, and whose the one trying to steal other’s work again?

50% ESA funding? Did you pull that one out of your rectum?

40% of the decission Board members are european. Buddy, its international space telescope. And btw without ESA it would not even bebin space. You have no rocket as powerful and trustworthy as the Ariane V
who cares, the Americans will just 're-discover' and 'confirm' those findings with JWST and take the credit. too bad Herschel, the prototype as well as the pioneering mission for JWST, will quickly be forgotten and never get mentioned again

Im well aware that americans try to steal evrything. Thats why i corrected him
 
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Can you both stop fighting like kids ?

We should be cheering this event instead of fighting on who funded and who didn’t.

6 months is a long time to get images, Hell, It would feel even worse than the Infinity War-Endgame cliffhanger
 
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And 40% of decission making board members. Does this anger you?

This statement of yours is illogicial - how can it be 40% european board members when they have only provided 10% of the funding? Why would NASA give over 40% of the decision making for a 10% budget contribution?

This is a USA satellite given the size and scope of USA funding.
 
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This statement of yours is illogicial - how can it be 40% european board members when they have only provided 10% of the funding? Why would NASA give over 40% of the decision making for a 10% budget contribution?

This is a USA satellite given the size and scope of USA funding.

Its a european Satellite. It has 4 instruments. Two of those build in Europe.
 
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Its a european Satellite. It has 4 instruments. Two of those build in Europe.

Keep saying that to yourself - no one in the world thinks it is "European" - it is by every metric and measure - an American project, and American product, lead by American scientists and paid for by Americans...

You almost sound silly like an Indian does - saying the same old rubbish again and again - hoping that repetition will make it true somehow ...
 
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This is correct 100%. This is why China will never cooperate with them. Anything they touch will be hijacked and gaslighted. Europeans are starting to learn what Chinese learned 30 years ago.

Um..I don't see ESA asking China to join in on the James Webb project...
 
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Keep saying that to yourself - no one in the world thinks it is "European" - it is by every metric and measure - an American project, and American product, lead by American scientists and paid for by Americans...

You almost sound silly like an Indian does - saying the same old rubbish again and again - hoping that repetition will make it true somehow ...


Doesnt change the fact that ESA has 40% decission power over it. Its a european telescope. Plain and simple.

Here directly from ESA


https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Webb

Webb is an international partnership between NASA, ESA and CSA.

Boom
 
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