Narendra Modi Cabinet reshuffle LIVE updates: Nirmala Sitharaman becomes new defence minister

[ashok321]

• View: Nirmala Sitharaman as defence minister is neither best choice nor women's empowerment

 

[deckingraj]

Guys, i see some of members here believe that a defense minister needs/ideally to/should have defense background...however please also keep in mind...the most important quality we need in defense minister is to get the job done...no? SME in a particular subject can be an additional asset however is no where the most important or for that matter even an important criteria...especially in our world...there is no dearth of technocrats in defense ministry, should one wants to use them...As long as she knows whom to reach out, to identify a particular rifle..it is fine...point is ...can she make sure that modernization program runs smoothly??

 

[Han Patriot]

Where is the road?

The road on 'Doklam plateau' is already complete.

Yo momma be proud today


So when are you going to construct the road ?


They are waiting for the pair to grow !☺

The road on 'Doklam plateau' is already complete.

 

[bloo]

Lets give her a chance.
If the trolls cry and moan in the future as well that means she was the right choice.

 

[c.t.ramesh]

Because that posting dummy main power is modi ji control. She is only name defence but real power modi ji.all are poltics

 

[ashok321]

PM Modi had last word on Sitharaman's new role

Of course we know this, that all decisions are covered by this democratic dictator.
What is new on this matter?
Nothing.

 

[#hydra#]

The road on 'Doklam plateau' is already complete.


The road on 'Doklam plateau' is already complete.

Oh really.

 

[Han Patriot]

Oh really.

Really. If only you cared to read.

Doklam and Doklam plateau are two different things, China wanted to own Doklam not just the plateau, the road till Doka La essentially already covers the whole Doklam plateau. When we station troops there, we have de-facto control of Doklam plateau. Strategically, it was the plateau that mattered, the last big piece of flat land there facing Siliguri. Use google 3D, the plateau area is only at the top left quarter of Doklam, the rest are essentially river valleys with no strategic use.

So when Indians entered the Doklam plateau area, their main aim was not road obstruction, it was road destruction of the completed roads in Doklam Plateau. Why else do you need to bring in 2 excavsatros, you could have used only kumbaya troops instead.

Map from Indian analyst. Doklam plateau is from Batang La, Merug La, Senche La to Doka La, looks like a diamond, essentially the whitish area crisscrossed by the roads there. We completed roads from Merug La/Senche La to Doka La, essentially grade 40 roads, then interference from Doka La happened when we tried to extend to Gyomochen. Gyomochen is not a plateau but it was the original trijunction as per 1890 agreement.

Map from Chinese MOFA

To me this is a win win situation because the definition of victory differs between China and India. India wanted media victory for Modi's reelection and also to cover up the fck ups by BJP. China wanted strategic victory. Why did I say India got a media victory? Because we shouldn't have even given a road postponement concession since it was 'rightfully' ours. However, in reality, China did not exercise de facto control of Doklam prior to this, India on the other hand had soldiers in Doka La. Due to it's disputed nature, China could only patrol. The status quo is now changed forever whether India admits it, there is now a grade 40 road covering the whole Doklam plateau (not Doklam area) and permanent Chinese troops stationed there. De facto control is now in Chinese hands which is exactly what we wanted.

The original Indian objective was to ensure Doklam plateau (not the whole Doklam area) does not fall into Chinese hands, not by obstructing road construction, they were aiming to destroy the completed roads in the plateau. Strategically speaking, extending the road to Gyomochi is only for de jure control not de facto control. By controlling the whole Doklam plateau (not Doklam area), we already have de facto control over the whole Doklam.



*** kicking

 

[Chhatrapati]

@Han Warrior There is no road in Doklam. Keep harping you build roads.

In reality you did nothing. Your forces may or may not patrol area. But our condition is met, no roads.

 

[Han Patriot]

@Han Warrior There is no road in Doklam. Keep harping you build roads.

In reality you did nothing. Your forces may or may not patrol area. But our condition is met, no roads.

. If there are no roads in Doklam, then what were you stopping in Doka La? Do you know how far Doka La is from the border? Our roads reached Doka La, essentially covering the whole 'DOKLAM PLATEAU'. Get this into your brain. Our troops are now stationed in Doka La border, next to Indian base. Get it? Essentially we have de facto control of Doklam once you ran.

 

[Chhatrapati]

. If there are no roads in Doklam, then what were you stopping in Doka La? Do you know how far Doka La is from the border? Our roads reached Doka La, essentially covering the whole 'DOKLAM PLATEAU'. Get this into your brain. Our troops are now stationed in Doka La border, next to Indian base. Get it? Essentially we have de facto control of Doklam once you ran.

emoji kid.

I asked a simple question, you are teaching me Geography and names. Is there a ROAD? Did you construct the road? The answer is you didn't. You patrol the disputed territory or not is not the point.

We managed all these without a full time defense minister. Chine soldiers took away the road construction equipments. That was the prerequisite condition for Indian troop withdrawal. You did what we asked we withdraw the troops.

How hard it can be to understand this simple fact. May be you guys didn't get the show as expected.

 

[Han Patriot]

emoji kid.

I asked a simple question, you are teaching me Geography and names. Is there a ROAD? Did you construct the road? The answer is you didn't. You patrol the disputed territory or not is not the point.

We managed all these without a full time defense minister. Chine soldiers took away the road construction equipments. That was the prerequisite condition for Indian troop withdrawal. You did what we asked we withdraw the troops.

How hard it can be to understand this simple fact. May be you guys didn't get the show as expected.

I explained to you in a very simple manner, THERE WAS ALREADY A GOD DAMN ROAD IN DOKLAM PLATEAU.
Can you show me official statement that said we took away our machinery? Pleaseeeeeeeeeee. The precondition for Indian withdrawal was mutual withdrawal and road cessation, both were never achieved.

 

[Chhatrapati]

I explained to you in a very simple manner, THERE WAS ALREADY A GOD DAMN ROAD IN DOKLAM PLATEAU.
Can you show me official statement that said we took away our machinery? Pleaseeeeeeeeeee. The precondition for Indian withdrawal was mutual withdrawal and road cessation, both were never achieved.

Really, yeah. You were having a pretty good dream. But that didn't happen ....

 

[Han Patriot]

Really, yeah. You were having a pretty good dream. But that didn't happen ....

Let me give you a refresher, see those black lines in Doklam plateau? Those are roads. . Do you even know where is Doklam plateau genius?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Let me give you a refresher, see those black lines in Doklam plateau? Those are roads. . Do you even know where is Doklam plateau genius?

Do you even know what the issue is about Mr. troll?

It's not about the existing road. It's about the construction of new roads.

What happened? Your head was reset back two months?

Chinese took back the road building equipment to your dismay.